aren't Animal Collective, strictly speaking, emerging reborn from their own arses.
― Plaxico (I know, right?), Monday, 13 April 2009 14:11 (fifteen years ago) link
Are there going to be any remixes of "My Girls"?
― I am using your worlds, Monday, 13 April 2009 14:39 (fifteen years ago) link
Does it really need a remix? A coworker of mine was at a recent Prodigy gig and he said that Busy P opened and played "My Girls" as if it were, "just another banger".
― uncannydan, Monday, 13 April 2009 15:13 (fifteen years ago) link
i know Hatchmatik did a remix, for one. but i agree with uncannydan; it's pretty unnecessary.
― myndbloom, Monday, 13 April 2009 18:20 (fifteen years ago) link
― mizzell, Monday, 13 April 2009 21:04 (fifteen years ago) link
i approve of that experiment
― yes threads (country matters), Monday, 13 April 2009 21:12 (fifteen years ago) link
because I am poor and lazy I am just listening to it now and it is good. probably their best yet (altho I haven't heard Strawberry Jam).
― This Board is a Prison on Planet Bullshit (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 13 April 2009 21:34 (fifteen years ago) link
don't forget that you're also old
― the sultan of ban (J0rdan S.), Monday, 13 April 2009 21:35 (fifteen years ago) link
right. I forgot. alzheimer's, you know.
― This Board is a Prison on Planet Bullshit (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 13 April 2009 21:37 (fifteen years ago) link
if sick mouthy is against it then it is probably great and the converse is also true.
― keythkeythkeyth, Tuesday, 14 April 2009 03:25 (fifteen years ago) link
seconded. that's how I always hoped animal collective sounded.
― m the g, Tuesday, 14 April 2009 09:41 (fifteen years ago) link
My issue with Reynolds' article (and the general response to MPP) is that I really don't see this as a breakthrough album for them. To me it sounds like Animal Collective doing what Animal Collective have been doing since 'Feels' - watery eliptical psychedelia with interesting melodic and rhythmic textures and varying the level on the tuneful/experimental rock/noise/dance continuum. It's not a 'Kid A' or even a 'Sung Tongs' (which, along with most of the pre-'Feels' era AC, works as an individual album concept in its own right).I don't see why MPP is any more commercial nor critically worthy than Feels, Strawberry Jam or anything else they've released since 2005, it's just a continuation of the sound they seem to have settled into.
― the next grozart, Tuesday, 14 April 2009 11:45 (fifteen years ago) link
Feels towers above SJ and MPP imo.
― Plaxico (I know, right?), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 11:53 (fifteen years ago) link
Comments on that article way better than the article itself...
catpiano
09 Feb 09, 2:42am
Luckily music critics of the ILM variety are easily ignored, since music blogs have made them outdated (and many are run by much more knowledgeable people, besides). Now all that is left for them are these petty and laughable forays into dumbed-down cultural criticism. In a few years all of this garbage will cease to exist and these people will write for free or be forced to get real jobs.
Ahem.
― ecuador_with_a_c, Tuesday, 14 April 2009 13:02 (fifteen years ago) link
you know he or she is right.
― uncannydan, Tuesday, 14 April 2009 13:31 (fifteen years ago) link
you know he or she isn't making any sense at all.
― the next grozart, Tuesday, 14 April 2009 14:27 (fifteen years ago) link
http://imgboot.com/images/moullet/acconanwb7.jpg
best closed caption ever?
― moullet, Thursday, 16 April 2009 05:37 (fifteen years ago) link
so sad to admit ilm time somewhere besides ilm
― kamerad, Thursday, 16 April 2009 06:05 (fifteen years ago) link
I've decided to start listening to this properly now, and while I don't think it's as interesting and diverse as pre-Feels work, it's definitely the most consistently great of all their later stuff. I think I got about 8 tracks in and realised I'd enjoyed every track so far, while most AC albums no matter how great have a few clunkers.
― the next grozart, Thursday, 16 April 2009 10:58 (fifteen years ago) link
Did anyone else here manage to order the Animal Crack Box? I think I was just lucky as I saw the e-mail from fusetron popping in and ordered. At least, I think I'm lucky, since I seem to have paid for it already. Their website now says this, not surprisingly:
Artist: ANIMAL COLLECTIVETitle: Animal Crack BoxFormat: 3 LP Box SetLabel: Catsup PlateCountry: USAPrice: $92.00***DUE TO OVERWHELMING DEMAND WE HAVE SUSPENDED TAKING ORDERS UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE. IT WILL TAKE A DAY OR TWO TO SORT OUT ALL THE ORDERS UP TO THIS POINT. IF THERE ARE ANY COPIES LEFT WE WILL ANNOUNCE IT ON THE NEXT EMAIL UPDATE. THANKS TO EVERYONE FOR THEIR ENTHUSIASM***
***DUE TO OVERWHELMING DEMAND WE HAVE SUSPENDED TAKING ORDERS UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE. IT WILL TAKE A DAY OR TWO TO SORT OUT ALL THE ORDERS UP TO THIS POINT. IF THERE ARE ANY COPIES LEFT WE WILL ANNOUNCE IT ON THE NEXT EMAIL UPDATE. THANKS TO EVERYONE FOR THEIR ENTHUSIASM***
― Gerard (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 12 May 2009 19:16 (fifteen years ago) link
"just lucky"
― Bud Huxtable (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 12 May 2009 19:17 (fifteen years ago) link
What is on it:
*Artist: ANIMAL COLLECTIVETitle: Animal Crack BoxFormat: 3LP box setLabel: Catsup PlateCountry: USAPrice: $92.00
IF YOU ARE ORDERING JUST THE ANIMAL COLLECTIVE BOX SET GO HERE < http://www.fusetronsound.com/crackBox.html > FORAUTOMATED PAYPAL LINKS
***LIMIT ONE PER CUSTOMER***
"After almost three years of planning Catsup Plate is proud to announce the release of Animal Crack Box, a three LP collection of Animal Collective recordings spanning the years 2000 through 2003. These songs were recorded live, at practice sessions and in other non-studio environs and most have never been released in any form whatsoever. And those that have been release sound so markedly different that long-time fans will not be disappointed. Throughout their career, Animal Collective has existed at the crossroads of uncompromising experimentalism, classic song structure and ecstatic expressionism -- a crossroads that this set further underscores. The songs veer from the early percussion/feedback wailings to the Campfire Songs style acoustica to wall of sound forest children vocal chanting. The sonics are rough in places as these were originally recorded more for reference than for an actual release, but the power of the songs and the bands uncompromising intensity are apparent all the way through. Fans of the bands recent work may be surprised by the cacophony at times, but peel away the layers of sound and the essential compositional and performative brilliance is staring you in the face. Each record jacket is silkscreened in four overprinted colors and housed in a super sturdy four overprinted color silkscreened outer slipcase held together by a two color silkscreened "obi" strip. This thing is a 12 x 12 brick. The recording selections were overseen by Animal Collective themselves, who poured over hundreds of hours of tapes to come up with this tracklisting. The Hieronymus-Bosch-meets-the-early-Looney-Tunes-work-of-Max-Fleischer illustrations were drawn by Jon Vermilyea and the whole package was art directed and designed by Rob Carmichael. This is a single edition of 1000 copies, with no digital or CD version planned." - Catsup Plate.
Tracklisting:
A1. Jimmy Raven A2. Ahhh Good Country A3. Iko Ovo
A1 and A2 recorded live to MiniDisc 18 September 2000 at the Cooler, NYC by Avey/Panda. A3 recorded live to MiniDisc fall 2000 at N. 4th Practice Space, Brooklyn by Avey/Panda.
B1. Pumpkin Gets a Snakebite B2. Pumpkins Hallucination B3. Pumpkins Funeral
B1 and B3 recorded live to MiniDisc February 2001 at N. 4th Practice Space, Brooklyn by Avey/Panda/Geologist. B2 recorded live to MiniDisc 25 February 2001 at Mercury Lounge, NYC by Avey/Panda/Geologist.
C1. Jungle Heat C2. Hey Friend C3. De Soto De Son
C1 and C2 recorded live to MiniDisc winter early 2001 at 67 Atlantic Ave, Brooklyn by Avey/Panda. C3 recorded live to MiniDisc August 2000 at Mercury Lounge, NYC by Avey/Panda.
D1. Oh Sweet D2. Young Prayer #2 D3. Do the Nurse
D1 partly recorded live to MiniDisc summer 2002 at N. 4th Practice Space, Brooklyn by Avey/Deakin and partly recorded live to MiniDisc 18 October 2002 at Warsaw, Brooklyn by Avey. D2 recorded live to MiniDisc fall 2002 at Bard College, NYC by Avey/Panda. D3 recorded live to MiniDisc 18 October 2002 at Warsaw, Brooklyn by Avey.
E1. Ice Cream Factory E2. Hey Light E3. Two Sails
E1 and E3 recorded live to MiniDisc March 2002 at Tonic, NYC by Avey/ Panda/Geologist/Deakin. E2 recorded live to MiniDisc winter early 2002 at N. 4th Practice Space, Brooklyn by Avey/Panda/Geologist/Deakin.
F1. Dont Believe the Pilot F2. Who Could Win a Rabbit F3. Mouth Wooed Her F4. Covered in Frogs F5. We Tigers
F1 and F2 recorded live to MiniDisc July 2003 at New World Brewery, Tampa, FL by Avey/Panda. F3 recorded live to MiniDisc June 2003 at a house party in Brooklyn by Avey/Panda. F4 recorded live to MiniDisc sometime and somewhere in 2003 (recording details are lost) by Avey/Panda. F5 recorded live to MiniDisc October 2003 at Concorde 2, Brighton, UK by Avey/Panda.
― Gerard (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 12 May 2009 19:18 (fifteen years ago) link
xp Haa, I expected that pun to arrive here, yet not as soon as this :)
― Gerard (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 12 May 2009 19:19 (fifteen years ago) link
You could not describe a boxset that I would have less interest in hearing than this one.
― Mordy, Tuesday, 12 May 2009 19:19 (fifteen years ago) link
i can describe one: a six box CD set of Animal Collective discussing the ins and outs of "Animal Crack Box," their new multiple CD box set
― Mr. Que, Tuesday, 12 May 2009 19:21 (fifteen years ago) link
I'm surprised the Lex isn't on this already to declare the very same, yet in more denouncing language.
― Gerard (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 12 May 2009 19:21 (fifteen years ago) link
See, that I'd have about the same lack of interest in hearing, but not necessarily less. I think this boxset hits the lowest possible point on my caring-about scale.
― Mordy, Tuesday, 12 May 2009 19:21 (fifteen years ago) link
Mr. Que: I'll gladly take it on myself to create that box set for you! It will cost you dearly though. $92 isn't gonna cut it.
― Gerard (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 12 May 2009 19:22 (fifteen years ago) link
The thing is, tho, I like MPP. But this boxset looks like everything I dislike about AC. I'm not just denouncing them in broad terms. I'm saying that they need to shy away from releasing their unfinished live crap and work harder at teh tunez.
― Mordy, Tuesday, 12 May 2009 19:22 (fifteen years ago) link
F2. Who Could Win a RabbitF3. Mouth Wooed HerF4. Covered in Frogs
B1. Pumpkin Gets a SnakebiteB2. Pumpkins HallucinationB3. Pumpkins Funeral
Looks like a winner!
― Mordy, Tuesday, 12 May 2009 19:23 (fifteen years ago) link
"Fans of the bands recent work may be surprised by the cacophony at times, but peel away the layers of sound and the essential compositional and performative brilliance is staring you in the face."
"This might sound to you like it sucks, but trust us. Its performative brilliance is staring you in the face."
― Mordy, Tuesday, 12 May 2009 19:24 (fifteen years ago) link
I'm not sure: MPP went from brilliant to mediocre to me fast. I'm actually anxious to hear more of the, erhm, 'spontaneous' side of their music-making - like the earlier albums - than the polished sound MPP displays.
xp
― Gerard (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 12 May 2009 19:26 (fifteen years ago) link
I'd rather they spent the rest of their days making handsome box sets if it kept them out of the studio.
― Bud Huxtable (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 12 May 2009 19:29 (fifteen years ago) link
hey this only covers till 2003, they've gotta have like 2 more box sets in em by now amirite?
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 12 May 2009 19:30 (fifteen years ago) link
that stuff is pretty widely bootlegged already (maybe not the early showings of the Feels stuff), so perhaps not as much point (laugh if you must) as this one.
As a fairly obsessive fan, I'm glad this sold out before I knew about it, because seeing it available when I really don't have the money would've been plain annoying.
― Ralph, Waldo, Emerson, Lake & Palmer (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 12 May 2009 20:03 (fifteen years ago) link
Kinda think animal collective's unreleased crap and live etc.s are their best work fyi
― ❉❉❉❉❉❉❉❉Plaxico❉❉❉❉❉❉❉❉❉ (I know, right?), Tuesday, 12 May 2009 23:12 (fifteen years ago) link
I don't know how i feel about what I assume is a pun on "crack rocks"
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 12 May 2009 23:20 (fifteen years ago) link
So we're saying this 1000 copy only release is of interest to only hardcore fans then?
― Dingy Boat McCrap Crap (Mister Craig), Wednesday, 13 May 2009 01:01 (fifteen years ago) link
I don't know. Are we?
― Gerard (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 13 May 2009 01:15 (fifteen years ago) link
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, May 12, 2009 6:20 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark
i thought it was a pun on animal crackers
― man, i love collages (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 13 May 2009 01:44 (fifteen years ago) link
god what a boring band
― totally dude (Curt1s Stephens), Wednesday, 13 May 2009 01:52 (fifteen years ago) link
"After almost three years of planning Catsup Plate is proud to announce the release of Animal Crack Box...... This is a single edition of 1000 copies, with no digital or CD version planned."
... This is a single edition of 1000 copies, with no digital or CD version planned."
So, what exactly is the point in planning a 3 LP box set for three years, having it be hyped over and over the past few months, only for it to sell out in less than 24 hours -- before fans who are interested, but not obsessively online all the time, can purchase it?
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Wednesday, 13 May 2009 02:13 (fifteen years ago) link
so they can charge $92 for some remixes of Panda Bear flushing a toilet
― totally dude (Curt1s Stephens), Wednesday, 13 May 2009 02:24 (fifteen years ago) link
You don't understand how the internet works do you?
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 13 May 2009 04:00 (fifteen years ago) link
:'(
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Wednesday, 13 May 2009 04:54 (fifteen years ago) link
I'm powerfully behind Curt1s on this one. This strikes me as a genius scam by a very mediocre band.
― Sickamous Mouthall (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 13 May 2009 07:18 (fifteen years ago) link
all of us who love this album (and this band) are total dupes. hope we see the light some day
― kamerad, Wednesday, 13 May 2009 07:41 (fifteen years ago) link
i hope you do too
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 13 May 2009 08:11 (fifteen years ago) link
Animal Collective has existed at the crossroads of uncompromising experimentalism, classic song structure and ecstatic expressionism
no
The songs veer from the early percussion/feedback wailings to the Campfire Songs style acoustica to wall of sound forest children vocal chanting
aiiii this sounds painful
The sonics are rough in places
what rougher than usual? surely impossible
Fans of the bands recent work may be surprised by the cacophony at times
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
this entire thing is hilarious, from those dumb titles to the dumb press release it's exactly what you'd imagine a parody of animal collective to be
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 13 May 2009 08:13 (fifteen years ago) link
much as i will pedestalise the 'collective, i mean you have to be a bit "special" to even want to listen to hollindagain all the way through more than once, so shelling out for a triple-album of atonal acoustic guitar strumming and inhuman grunts and shrieks is pushing it.
― the next grozart, Wednesday, 13 May 2009 08:18 (fifteen years ago) link