The National - Trouble Will Find Me

If people are getting wound up that I find their favourite band/artist/album unmemorable and/or crap, that's not my problem.

Saying the National suck because the drumming isn't as good as Neil Peart or Alan White's is like saying New Order suck because Sumner doesn't play guitar as well as Richard Thompson.

(as this thread shows I'm no National fan either)

we get it, amazing drumming is about insane fills and pyrotechnics

Saying the National suck because the drumming isn't as good as Neil Peart or Alan White's

Except I didn't once say these exact words. Good try, though.

xp and xylosynths

they had, and I'm basing this on what little I actually remember about hearing this record and also bear in mind I did listen to this album in full more than once, I'd return the favour by asking 'em to check out a Rush record.

― the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican),

This is no different. Keep slithering away though.

In fact, I don't recall saying that The National suck, either. I said that I listened to their album, more than once, and found it extremely unmemorable. People brought up the drumming, and I mentioned that nothing even stuck out on that front and that what I do remember was listening to a morose American indie rock record. Cue wahhh.

love that turrican's response to the idea that this band has a great drummer was to bump a bunch of prog and hard rock threads with the phrase "amazing drumming"

― who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Wednesday, September 7, 2016 9:11 PM (thirty-nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Did it not occur to you that I'm actually talking about music that I've been listening to recently? The fact that those bands have legitimately amazing drummers is mere coincidence.

This is no different. Keep slithering away though.

― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, September 7, 2016 9:55 PM (nineteen seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

It's completely different. You're implying that I think The National suck because of the drumming, which is something I never once said. What I did say is from what little I remember about the record, that if someone asked me to check the record out for its drumming, then I likely wouldn't have much to say about it. That Neil Peart is a world renowned world class drummer, though, is without dispute.

I'm just saying that if someone asked me to check the record out for cigar-lighting cgi dragons on jumbotrons, then I likely wouldn't have much to say about it. Neil Peart is a world renowned receptacle for cigars lit by cigar-lighting cgi dragons on jumbotrons.

you definitely don't have much to say about the drumming of a record that you don't really remember anything about from three years ago

I have to say, it is most curious how it's always the fans of morose indie rock that get the most butthurt when people imply the artist/album is unmemorable or dull. Radiohead, The National... there should be a name for this condition, tbh.

there are so, so many much more generic / less distinctive bands to single out for derision

i for one support turrican in his claim that Lars Ulrich is a better band than the national

lol

turricans posting style itt vs drum sound on st anger

Now you're just making yourselves look ridiculous, guys, but whatever floats your boat.

As I said before, if people can't handle someone saying they find their favourite artist/album dull/unmemorable, then that's not my problem.

no your problem is being a dullard

ps the national suck

Then in three years time you'll struggle to remember anything about this post.

i cannot think of anything that would rile me up less than someone saying The National are boring

wow, butthurt

A lot of online tabs peg "I Should Live in Salt" as 17/8, which at first seems ... unlikely. But I guess I can hear how someone could count that.

Anyway, anyone got any information on the new album?

All I can find is that it's being recorded now, unlikely to come out this year and that they've "gone electronic" (whatever that means)

arab strap is a good band to enjoy while waiting for a new national release

I kind of get the spirit of why people think the National are dull. I was at some music thing where I met a girl who told me the National were her favorite band and when I asked her why she replied "They romanticize the ordinary." Like it's the poetic stream of consciousness of the average intelligent thirty something who is falling deep into ennui.

But there is something there lurking under the surface that makes them just interesting enough for me to not skip some of their tracks when they show up on shuffle. A subtle mythos that makes their songs become more than they are.

i think what's lurking beneath the surface is a killer band full of killer players who mostly write songs that are interesting and good

Trouble Will Find Me is probably in my top ten in favorite of albums of the decade, so far.

It was my favorite of 2013 for sure.

when I asked her why she replied "They romanticize the ordinary."

this is okay but the correct answer is bryan devendorf

New album soon?

Sleep Well Beast. pic.twitter.com/3IpxpigJlj

— The National (@TheNational) May 9, 2017

promising tease

New album September 8th

New track now:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2O6duDDkhis

guitar solo!

That was a shock! Is it their first?

the title drop is a bit clumsy but I like everything else about this

That's excellent.

damn what a band

The title sounds like an Adam Curtis film.

This new track fuckin' rules.

Bought tickets for the London Monday gig. Anyone else going?

Not for £40 I ain't.

the local "event" show is over 100 bucks, ick.

Anyway, new song and album. 16 tracks on this motherfucker

https://youtu.be/lBcVrb-snPk

new song sounds exactly like what i expected the last record to sound like. cautiously hyped

the STRINGS, wow

yeah, when they said SWB was going to be "electronic" and "experimental" or whatever I was surprised at how conventional it ended up sounding, this is a little more adventurous. hoping the tidy length is a sign of more Boxer-like economy as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2Uow9aNCRU

album trailer featuring another song that sounds really great

fuck, the guest vocals on "you had your soul with you" are gail ann dorsey?

the national are the only good indie rock band

album is apparently 68 minutes long

i always want them to make shorter records but given how many times i've listened to this new song this morning, maybe this time it won't matter

i got it worse than anyone else and
i just can't find a way to forgive myself

i had only one thing to do
but i couldn't do it yet

i guess it's early to say this but this is the best national song i've ever heard

also this is definitely a live, unedited drum track that is meant to *sound* cut-and-pasted and it's one of the most dazzling devendorf performances, i can barely wrap my head around it