Creed: Awesome or Sucks?

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“At that meeting we were collectively saying, ‘Hey man, I’m sorry if I hurt you or my choices did anything to cause you any pain. I have nothing but love and forgiveness for you and I hope you can forgive me. It’s all part of the process of reflection and not looking back at the six months out of 10 years that were trying.”

This apparently came from the 'Ron Moore talks to the fans' transcript.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 27 April 2009 22:38 (fifteen years ago) link

Darien Lakes NY is an amusement park

TONITE:

PUPPET SHOW
CREED

Vast Halo, Monday, 27 April 2009 22:52 (fifteen years ago) link

"They agreed to meet up at the Hard Rock Hotel in Florida before Stapp sang the National Anthem at the Champs Sports Bowl" is the opening line in my Creed biography.

tylerw, Monday, 27 April 2009 22:54 (fifteen years ago) link

three months pass...

Photo of the year:

http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitter_production/profile_images/282824031/scott_05_00487_4i_FL.jpg

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 29 July 2009 15:51 (fourteen years ago) link

lol.

coupla points about creed. i'll admit to liking their first album. and that's it. stapp is an egomaniac who once in a yahoo chat interview claimed he kicked eddie vedder's ass vocally (in response to one of the audience member's questions).

and lets not forget how they seem to think their music has some kind of esoteric weight beyond spiritual wannabe post-grunge. if i ever hear 'with eyes wide open' again, i might have to find the masters and burn them

Elvin Wayburn Phillips, Wednesday, 29 July 2009 15:56 (fourteen years ago) link

two months pass...

Oh how I laugh:

http://idolator.com/5282592/would-you-go-see-creed-if-you-only-had-to-pay-75-cents

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 15 October 2009 15:28 (fourteen years ago) link

Creed >>>>>>>>>> Killing Joke

― homage is parody gone sour (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, April 27, 2009 6:02 PM

am0n, Thursday, 15 October 2009 15:34 (fourteen years ago) link

Nice out of context pull there. You're missing the very important follow-up post.

& other try hard shitfests (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 15 October 2009 15:36 (fourteen years ago) link

don't tell me...alex in NYC was upset about something. now THAT i have to read

51 ways to leave ilxor (k3vin k.), Thursday, 15 October 2009 16:17 (fourteen years ago) link

I will admit to liking "My Sacrifice", mostly for Mark Tremonti's (had to Google his name ) guitar licks (the riff that propels the bridge is actually pretty rocking, in a responsible and adult-like fashion), but that "six feet from the edge" song should be BANNED FOREVER.

Tantrum The Cat, Thursday, 15 October 2009 17:17 (fourteen years ago) link

Creed Is Good
Scott Stapp's nu-grunge foursome was seriously underrated.

http://www.slate.com/id/2233082/

am0n, Friday, 23 October 2009 14:23 (fourteen years ago) link

"If your impulse on hearing that it has reunited is to groan, stifle it long enough to locate a copy of Creed's 2004 Greatest Hits collection. It's a fantastic baker's dozen of first-rate schlock-rock, courtesy of one of the most underrated and unfairly maligned groups in pop history."

am0n, Friday, 23 October 2009 14:26 (fourteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lc-gmvXdLKk

am0n, Friday, 23 October 2009 14:32 (fourteen years ago) link

think that was posted to the bad music writing thread already but yeah these retarded modest proposal irony peices gotta stop

k3vin k., Friday, 23 October 2009 15:48 (fourteen years ago) link

Irony schmirony!

Philip Nunez, Friday, 23 October 2009 18:39 (fourteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipy58SaIRhs

Moka, Saturday, 24 October 2009 20:04 (fourteen years ago) link

why do people keep calling Creed christian? the lyrics may be "spiritual" or whatever but I'm pretty sure there is no actual connection to CCM & christian rocker types don't consider them part of that scene i think

lukevalentine, Saturday, 24 October 2009 21:28 (fourteen years ago) link

anyway, the Slate article is really bending over backwards here, creed is shit.... but i would still better listen to them than kings of leon

lukevalentine, Saturday, 24 October 2009 21:30 (fourteen years ago) link

Don't worry their rehab piece is due in 2016.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 24 October 2009 21:30 (fourteen years ago) link

My problem with Creed is not Stapp's voice (works well in context) or persona (rock music is chock full of douchebags) or the guitar riffs (decent hard rock). My problem is that, like pretty much every post-grunge rock band in America, the songs are too fucking slow. They do not "rock." They shuffle from foot to foot. It's no wonder their videos have so much slo-mo in 'em; their drummer plays in slow motion. Staind are actually worse offenders in this regard (did they release one single that wasn't a fucking dirge?), but Creed are a prime example of trudge-rock. The only Creed song I like even a little is "Bullets," because for at least part of its running time the drummer wakes up, and the band gets into second gear. They don't sustain it, of course. But for a minute or so, they are a genuinely rockin' band. (They pull the same trick on the new single, "Overcome.")

neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Saturday, 24 October 2009 22:26 (fourteen years ago) link

i guess the fact that creed has actual pop songs and stuff make them automatically better than a lot of bands i don't even know the name of. shinedown? is that one of them? i just hate this type of music tbh

lukevalentine, Saturday, 24 October 2009 22:51 (fourteen years ago) link

CREED ARE THE WORST BAND EVER, JUST SAYING

FACK, Saturday, 24 October 2009 23:56 (fourteen years ago) link

worse than nickelback?

lukevalentine, Saturday, 24 October 2009 23:59 (fourteen years ago) link

they might be tied, but you are so right, nickelback are awful

FACK, Sunday, 25 October 2009 00:06 (fourteen years ago) link

What's up with Creed doing that WHOOOAAAAOOOHHHOHHHH YAAAGHASEXIZONFIYAAAAH song a year back or so?

The Reverend, Sunday, 25 October 2009 01:04 (fourteen years ago) link

I've been trying to get people to refer to this vocal style as "reer" for many years.. Here's something I wrote about it a long time ago on my friends facebook..

"Reer" is a vocal style that became popular by a young surfer named Edward Vedder from The Pearl Jam.. it's main characteristic is how often there's extra emphasis on the "err's" and "rree's".. a few years later the style was adopted by singers from far more mediocre bands such as Darius Rucker from Hootie and the Blowfish, and eventually an entire mainstream rock subgenre was built around it starting in 1998 by the emergence of Creed's Scott Stapp, eventually resulting in its peak in popularity which took place between 2000 and 2002 with Chad Kroger from Nickleback, Aaron Lewis from Staind, and that asshole from Godsmack.. one of the most recent big hit songs of this type was "Lips Of An Angel" from Hinder. lots of modern mainstream country singers also use this vocal style, but it's normally used to describe bullshit bar-rock where the singer sounds like eddie vedder.

billstevejim, Monday, 26 October 2009 07:11 (fourteen years ago) link

I recall writing that during that during work using my phone keypad which is why I'll have to apologize for the poor grammar and word choice, but you get the point..

billstevejim, Monday, 26 October 2009 07:12 (fourteen years ago) link

The next year, at home in Orlando, Stapp put two guns to his head, intent on blowing out his brains.

Sorry for laughing but, seriously, two guns for the suicide attempt there, Scott?

Cunga, Monday, 26 October 2009 07:24 (fourteen years ago) link

I don't feel sorry laughing about that at all.

billstevejim, Monday, 26 October 2009 07:25 (fourteen years ago) link

"Higher" might turn out to be the nu-grunge "Don't Stop Believing"

Can definitely see this -- along with the inevitable rehabilitation down the road. Oh well.

x-post

Even with a suicide attempt things had to be overblown. TWO GUNS.

Cunga, Monday, 26 October 2009 07:33 (fourteen years ago) link

http://cache.kotaku.com/assets/resources/2007/08/hardboiledpic.jpg

am0n, Monday, 26 October 2009 07:36 (fourteen years ago) link

wooicide

i ain't no daggum son of a gun (latebloomer), Monday, 26 October 2009 07:43 (fourteen years ago) link

sorry that was lame.

i ain't no daggum son of a gun (latebloomer), Monday, 26 October 2009 07:43 (fourteen years ago) link

i meant attempted wooicide

i ain't no daggum son of a gun (latebloomer), Monday, 26 October 2009 07:43 (fourteen years ago) link

Hold up, before I get my twin suicide guns let me release the doves.

x-post lawl

Cunga, Monday, 26 October 2009 07:44 (fourteen years ago) link

I've been trying to get people to refer to this vocal style as "reer" for many years.

I always thought it was called yarl?

ecuador_with_a_c, Monday, 26 October 2009 08:42 (fourteen years ago) link

awesome article.

oops i accidentally made it personal (surm), Monday, 26 October 2009 09:11 (fourteen years ago) link

eight months pass...

And thus I roffle.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 19 July 2010 17:04 (thirteen years ago) link

Stapp is also slated to be one of the featured singers on a version of Creedence Clearwater Revival's "Fortunate Son" for the new Santana album, "Guitar Heaven: The Greatest Guitar Classics Of All Time,"

Oh man, I can hear this in my head and it's horrible.

All 10 songs permeate the organs (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 13:43 (thirteen years ago) link

i hate creed so much.

marc iv, Wednesday, 21 July 2010 14:29 (thirteen years ago) link

so excited!

janice (surm), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 14:30 (thirteen years ago) link

Guys I have to admit I think "My Own Prison" is kind of an awesome song, and that I did it at karaoke once.

mercy, sportsmanship, morality (Abbott), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 20:11 (thirteen years ago) link

It's also about Scott Stapp being damned, so that's fine.

mercy, sportsmanship, morality (Abbott), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 20:12 (thirteen years ago) link

Ok, that's really only true of the the first verse, but he doesn't really enunciate the rest.

mercy, sportsmanship, morality (Abbott), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 20:15 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm prepared for the sbs, but Creed's first album isn't completely awful as far as post-grunge mall-rock goes. It all went downhill starting with that second album.

he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 20:15 (thirteen years ago) link

I always thought One had kind of a taut rollick in the verses

destroy a. monsters (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 20:18 (thirteen years ago) link

I mean, basically they went from being a band that I didn't completely mind when "My Own Prison" came on the alt-rock station to being a band that made me want to SMASH whenever I heard them.

he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 20:21 (thirteen years ago) link

three months pass...

In 2004, former Creed members Mark Tremonti, Scott Phillips and Brian Marshall, found themselves searching for the perfect new singer…enter the one and only, Myles Kennedy. Since then, they have been a mainstay on rock radio and now releasing a new record, AB III on November 9! (Miles also performs on Slash’s new solo record and fronts his touring band).

am0n, Friday, 5 November 2010 13:58 (thirteen years ago) link

two months pass...

http://gizmodo.com/5739091/how-creed-saved-a-norwegian-boy-from-a-pack-of-wolves

Earlier this week, in the Norwegian town of Rakkestad, 13-year-old Walter Eikrem was walking home from school when he crossed paths with a pack of wolves. With his life on the line, he had to think quick. He blasted Creed.

"At first, I thought it might have been the neighbor's dogs," Walter told a Norwegian TV station after the incident. In fact, all alone amongst the sloping, snowy hills that separated his school from his family's farmhouse, he was about to encounter four wild wolves.

Fearing that they were getting ready to attack, Walter remained calm, remembering his mother's exhortation not to run away if he ever encountered the animals in the wild. So he stood his ground and figured he might be able to scare the animals off with the music from his cell phone. He yanked out his earbuds. Out blared Creed's Christian rock anthem "Overcome."

Walter waved his arms wildly and screamed at the top of his lungs along with the music, and sure enough, the wolves turned around and walked the other way. I'm sure Creed has saved many fans in its career but never quite like this.

you think you're cool, but you read ick (Phil D.), Friday, 21 January 2011 01:40 (thirteen years ago) link

wolves should have eaten the kid for that imo

i love tampon spaceship (San Te), Friday, 21 January 2011 01:42 (thirteen years ago) link


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