Gorguts do make a strong case for DM. DM vocalists can also get some p cool overtones happening.
― My Body's Made of Crushed Little Evening Stars (Sund4r), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 16:24 (seven years ago) link
the potential for death metal to bend my mind on a purely groove-based level is why it comes out ahead for me. the popular conception is that a lot of it is identical and interchangeable, which i'd disagree with (and would further disagree that that kind of consistency has negative connotations) but even if it were there's something about the essential sound that continually draws me in, just this disgusting swerving imbalance that takes incredible technical ability and an unusually fluid interplay to even accomplish. i love it so much
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 16:35 (seven years ago) link
Yeah I never really got death metal for years, now I can't get enough of it, and you've probably nailed a pretty big reason why.
― ultros ultros-ghali, Tuesday, 2 May 2017 16:39 (seven years ago) link
I never would've been able to explain it like that though
bands in my library tagged "thrash metal":
absolute zerodeathrowdestructionslayersodom
bands in my library tagged "metalcore":
none
bands in my library tagged "grindcore":
sublime cadaveric decomposition
bands in my library tagged "death metal":
bloodgasmdeadgolemgorgutsmastermeshuggahobliveonritual suicidetimeghoulunleashedunseen terror
bands in my library tagged "black metal":
abu lahabanubibatushkadarkspacedeathspell omegaemptinessevilfleuretyfuriahail spirit noirjute gytekampilankrallicelaetitia in holocaustlugubrummyrkurnahvalrnecromantianegative planeoranssi pazuzutengger cavalryved buens ende
― increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 16:43 (seven years ago) link
note that i didn't make these tags, and no fucking way would i call absolute zero "thrash metal" for instance
― increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 16:44 (seven years ago) link
whatever The Locust was. grindcore right?
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 2 May 2017 17:27 (seven years ago) link
death > black > thrash > grind > metalcore but I got some love for the best of em all
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 17:31 (seven years ago) link
as far as amount of interesting stuff to be found aka variation within genre, I'd go with:
death > black > thrash > grind > don't listen to enough metalcore to know, but I suspsect I'd put it last anyway
― Dominique, Tuesday, 2 May 2017 17:32 (seven years ago) link
Black probably, then a tie between thrash and Grind. I like some death and very little metalcore.
― husked, tonal wails (irrational), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 17:41 (seven years ago) link
Oh, I like the Locust, if that counts as grindcore.
― My Body's Made of Crushed Little Evening Stars (Sund4r), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 17:42 (seven years ago) link
By "metalcore" are people thinking of Botch, Bloodlet etc or Killswitch Engage and stuff?
― ultros ultros-ghali, Tuesday, 2 May 2017 17:44 (seven years ago) link
the genre contains both
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 17:54 (seven years ago) link
when i said upthread that i like good metalcore the most out of any of these genres, i was def thinking of botch, converge, etc.
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 17:56 (seven years ago) link
death metal - better musicians, better composition, better repeat value
― People like Malcolm X, Martin Luther King, Jr, and (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 18:07 (seven years ago) link
on the thrash tip, I really love the good old heavy progressive thrash bands (Sadist, Voivod) but most thrash records exhaust themselves by the third or fourth track for me otherwise.
― People like Malcolm X, Martin Luther King, Jr, and (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 18:09 (seven years ago) link
The Locust was kinda grind/screamo xover, iirc
― Guy Pidgeotto (Tom Violence), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 18:14 (seven years ago) link
Right now I favour black metal for the atmosphere and beauty but I haven't listened to enough death metal beyond Death, Carcass, Morbid Angel, Athiest, Cynic and Anata. I'm put off by a lot of the vocalists and conventions but I hope/suspect there's a lot more interesting variety out there.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 2 May 2017 18:15 (seven years ago) link
i thought botch were post-hardcore
i like the last botch ep
almost want to be challopsy and write-in vote for power metal, which is frequently awful but is also frequently fun
― increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 18:18 (seven years ago) link
For me it's death > grind > metalcore (which includes deathcore 'cause I love Attila and Emmure) > thrash (mostly old stuff; new bands like Warbringer, Toxic Holocaust, et al. do nothing for me). I delete black metal promos unheard.
― Malcolm X, Martin Luther King, Jr, and Violent J (誤訳侮辱), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 18:21 (seven years ago) link
1. Black Metal - Love lots of it from the '90s onwards, still producing cool and surprising music2. Thrash - There's some classic stuff there but not a fan of anything past the '80s really3. Metalcore - Not big into it but I've got time for Botch and Converge4. Death Metal - Some bands I like in small doses, not keen on the vocals though plus it's all a bit too... knotty5. Grindcore - Not for me at all
― Gavin, Leeds, Tuesday, 2 May 2017 18:30 (seven years ago) link
check out the last 3 minutes of this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32iX5lbVDto
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 2 May 2017 18:48 (seven years ago) link
death for me. My favorite as a kid, and the only subgenre of metal I still listen to on purpose
― Wimmels, Tuesday, 2 May 2017 20:42 (seven years ago) link
I like some old metalcore I guess, if Botch and Bloodlet count.
― husked, tonal wails (irrational), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 21:58 (seven years ago) link
black metal
― Lennon, Elvis, Hendrix etc (dog latin), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 23:39 (seven years ago) link
death metal wins, next level extreme music
i don't really get black metal..
haven't heard much grindcore apart from some napalm death. eh.
metalcore... is converge metalcore? that band rules
― brimstead, Wednesday, 3 May 2017 00:13 (seven years ago) link
oh and thrash. thrash is good.
― brimstead, Wednesday, 3 May 2017 00:14 (seven years ago) link
metalcore is Converge and a bunch of shitty Converge ripoffs, correct me if I'm wrong
― Guy Pidgeotto (Tom Violence), Wednesday, 3 May 2017 01:08 (seven years ago) link
grindcore because it's over the quickest.
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 3 May 2017 01:10 (seven years ago) link
Death metal, then black, then probably a tie between grind and thrash. Not sure I know what metalcore is, but if it's stuff like Kvelertak, count me in.
― o. nate, Wednesday, 3 May 2017 02:58 (seven years ago) link
Attila and Emmure
I honestly thought "metalcore" mostly referred to stuff like this. Converge are not bad (but this still wouldn't change my answer).
― My Body's Made of Crushed Little Evening Stars (Sund4r), Wednesday, 3 May 2017 03:21 (seven years ago) link
Grind is also the closest to other genres I enjoy like free jazz, punk rock and noize
― Jay Elettronica Viva (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 3 May 2017 04:07 (seven years ago) link
Oh hm, are you thinking of Painkiller as a grind offshoot/fusion?
― My Body's Made of Crushed Little Evening Stars (Sund4r), Wednesday, 3 May 2017 04:10 (seven years ago) link
sure
― Jay Elettronica Viva (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 3 May 2017 04:35 (seven years ago) link
Metalcore is a relatively big tent if you include subgenres like Deathcore (Emmure, Attila, After The Burial, Slice The Cake, Whitechapel, etc) and Mathcore (Botch, Dillinger Escape Plan, etc).
― Siegbran, Wednesday, 3 May 2017 11:26 (seven years ago) link
other than the earliest DEP, and at least a respect for bands like Car Bomb and Psyopus, I find a lot of mathcore to be a bit on the spastic side for me (which is probably the point). What about stuff like Naked City? Probably too conceptual and self-conscious. anyway, I can handle straight crust/hardcore/powerviolence, but when they try to metal up their sound, I find myself wanting better riffs/coherent songs. but I can be schooled!
― Dominique, Wednesday, 3 May 2017 14:48 (seven years ago) link
Hot takes: Dillinger Escape Plan is hardcore, Naked City is jazz
― Guy Pidgeotto (Tom Violence), Wednesday, 3 May 2017 20:18 (seven years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.
― System, Thursday, 1 June 2017 00:01 (seven years ago) link
Thrash or Death. Black is generally not toe-tapping enough for my tastes.
― chap, Thursday, 1 June 2017 13:40 (seven years ago) link
I expected this to be death for American patriots and euros voting black but chap just had to be different ;)
― Odysseus, Thursday, 1 June 2017 14:05 (seven years ago) link
thrash then death
― Balðy Daudrs (contenderizer), Thursday, 1 June 2017 14:27 (seven years ago) link
but that's heavily weighted by nostalgia. present listening = death then black, w/ maybe a little kimchi grind pile on the side.
― Balðy Daudrs (contenderizer), Thursday, 1 June 2017 14:29 (seven years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― System, Friday, 2 June 2017 00:01 (seven years ago) link
this will never be settled haha
― imago, Friday, 2 June 2017 00:01 (seven years ago) link