Now, back to the topic...
The point being that playing funky stuff every so often doesn't make you a funk band.― Wewlay Bewlay (Tom D.), Wednesday, September 13, 2017 5:47 PM (forty-two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Wewlay Bewlay (Tom D.), Wednesday, September 13, 2017 5:47 PM (forty-two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
In Talking Heads' case, this is more than "every so often" ...
― more Allegro-like (Turrican), Wednesday, 13 September 2017 18:32 (seven years ago) link
is there something wrong with saying tina weymouth is a funky bass player? i don't get ilx sometimes....
― Week of Wonders (Ross), Wednesday, 13 September 2017 18:33 (seven years ago) link
it's just music christ
― Week of Wonders (Ross), Wednesday, 13 September 2017 18:34 (seven years ago) link
No, I just thought it was funny that, at the same time, other people were defending Talking Heads by arguing that it's crazy and wrong to call them funk.
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Wednesday, 13 September 2017 19:31 (seven years ago) link
Talking Heads = Music Christ. it is settled law.
― you are juror number 144 and we will excuse you (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 13 September 2017 19:36 (seven years ago) link
Amen!
― Frederik B, Wednesday, 13 September 2017 19:43 (seven years ago) link
The album wasn't called Fear of Funk after all.
― Wewlay Bewlay (Tom D.), Wednesday, 13 September 2017 19:47 (seven years ago) link
You have to put that in the context of the original post that kicked all this off:
I'm often left with the impression that they're a white funk band for people who perhaps consider themselves a little too artsy and deep to listen to the real deal
And then all manner of further nonsense from the same poster thereafter.
― Wewlay Bewlay (Tom D.), Wednesday, 13 September 2017 19:50 (seven years ago) link
Who considers themselves too artsy to listen to real funk anyway? Hasn't that been cool for decades?
― Frederik B, Wednesday, 13 September 2017 19:52 (seven years ago) link
Or am I reading it wrong and does 'the real deal' mean that somehow Jamiriqoi is where it's at?
― Frederik B, Wednesday, 13 September 2017 19:55 (seven years ago) link
"This song started from a jam," says bassist Tina Weymouth in the liner notes of Once in a Lifetime: The Best of Talking Heads. "Chris [Frantz, drummer] had just been to see Parliament-Funkadelic in its full glory at Madison Square Garden, and he was really hyped. During the jam, he kept yelling 'Burn down the house!' which was a P-Funk audience chant, and David dug the line, changing it to the finished version, 'Burning down the house'." (Bernie Worrell of Parliament-Funkadelic joined Talking Heads' live incarnation.)
― llurk, Wednesday, 13 September 2017 19:59 (seven years ago) link
hmm, so there does appear to be a connection between talking heads and funk
very interesting
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 13 September 2017 19:59 (seven years ago) link
boy did this become tedious
mission accomplished Turrican
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 13 September 2017 20:03 (seven years ago) link
Didn't they work with that guy what's his face from Roxy Music? So they're clearly glam rock!
― Frederik B, Wednesday, 13 September 2017 20:09 (seven years ago) link
Yeah, sorry, this is tedious. I'll fap myself out.
they are actually a white rap group cf David Byrne's rapping on Crosseyed and Painless
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 13 September 2017 20:11 (seven years ago) link
let's change the topic. how about this one: all of sgt pepper's is totally overrated. and after that: that thing your grandma told you on your 6th birthday party that stuck with you your entire life? it wasn't that insightful, and you didn't even remember it correctly. final topic: that thing you like? no, wrong.
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 13 September 2017 20:11 (seven years ago) link
except for those times they used a pedal steel guitar, then they were a white country group
xp
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 13 September 2017 20:12 (seven years ago) link
xp i liked that post up until your final topic explained very clearly how it was wrong to do so
― you are juror number 144 and we will excuse you (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 13 September 2017 20:31 (seven years ago) link
lolwell, at least david byrne might appreciate the contradiction
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 13 September 2017 20:54 (seven years ago) link
Y'know. I've really been thinking today. About a lot of things. Talking Heads. Can. What funk is and is not. How to form an argument. And I just want to say to Turrican: Thank You. Because you make me a better person. I mean, you don't really 'better' anything, you're an awful piece of shit, who clearly couldn't construct a cohesive argument if you're life depended on it, clearly hasn't heard an appropriate amount of funk music, and you seem to have some deep rooted issues related to masturbation, which is a good and natural thing. I guess what I mean to say is this: You're lowering the bar. And you do that for all of us. And the way my life has been going these last few months, I really needed that. So Thank You.
Also, I guess I should really stop watching BoJack Horseman at this point.
― Frederik B, Wednesday, 13 September 2017 21:00 (seven years ago) link
I'm often left with the impression that Bojack Horseman is the horse cartoon for people who perhaps consider themselves a little too artsy and deep to watch the real deal, my little pony
― you are juror number 144 and we will excuse you (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 13 September 2017 21:06 (seven years ago) link
roflz
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 13 September 2017 21:06 (seven years ago) link
Holy shit
It was in front of us all along
Turrican is fred b
ps talking heads are a really shit band, like they're bad at music and sound bad.
― passé aggresif (darraghmac), Wednesday, 13 September 2017 21:23 (seven years ago) link
Also yanks note the 'are a shit band' not 'is a shit band' it's little things like this that make ye stand out as not native speakers
― passé aggresif (darraghmac), Wednesday, 13 September 2017 21:26 (seven years ago) link
Thanks for clarifying that Sund4r :)
― Week of Wonders (Ross), Wednesday, 13 September 2017 21:54 (seven years ago) link
So did we figure out if Talking Heads are a funk band or what?
― Shat Parp (dog latin), Wednesday, 13 September 2017 22:11 (seven years ago) link
No, we found out that people are in denial about it and Frederik B is a middle aged divorcee with an anger problem, who seems to enjoy re-using the exact wording of his personal correspondence.
― more Allegro-like (Turrican), Thursday, 14 September 2017 05:31 (seven years ago) link
(with some words changed obviously)
― more Allegro-like (Turrican), Thursday, 14 September 2017 05:33 (seven years ago) link
I LOVE TALKING HEADS
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 14 September 2017 05:35 (seven years ago) link
No, we found out that people are in denial about it - everyone is in denialand Frederik B is a middle aged - who cares how old he isdivorcee - who careswith an anger problem- I'M GONNA PUNCH A WALL, who seems to enjoy re-using the exact wording of his personal correspondence.-
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0i love talking heads
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 14 September 2017 05:36 (seven years ago) link
Now now, there's no need to start going and punching walls.
― more Allegro-like (Turrican), Thursday, 14 September 2017 05:42 (seven years ago) link
clearly ilm is going through a golden era
― Shat Parp (dog latin), Thursday, 14 September 2017 07:54 (seven years ago) link
what's the cutoff for a "golden era"? anything under two?
― bob lefse (rushomancy), Thursday, 14 September 2017 12:34 (seven years ago) link
Animal think...they're pretty smartShit on the ground...see in the dark.
― rock and roll tucci coo (voodoo chili), Thursday, 14 September 2017 14:27 (seven years ago) link
What about Houston?What about Detroit?
― Eazy, Thursday, 14 September 2017 14:29 (seven years ago) link
WHAT ABOUT PITTSBURGH P-A?
― rock and roll tucci coo (voodoo chili), Thursday, 14 September 2017 14:35 (seven years ago) link
Some TH playing in Morrisons when I was doing my shopping last evening, very deep and artsy.
― The Doug Walters of Crime (Tom D.), Friday, 15 September 2017 09:47 (seven years ago) link
All the fans of real funk fled
― Shat Parp (dog latin), Friday, 15 September 2017 09:48 (seven years ago) link
I've never been too crazy about them, don't dislike them really either, just ambivalent I guess. However, On the strength of this thread, I decided to DL Fear of Music and the live thingy. Will live with them for a week or so and see if they click. Off topic but the Liam Gallagher pre-covers thing is wonderful. Nice work everybody.
― VyrnaKnowlIsAHeadbanger, Friday, 15 September 2017 14:14 (seven years ago) link
Much of early Heads, like say, Name of This Band is spiky art-punky, with the uber trebly sound and intentionally naïve/awkward vibe.
Late Heads could be funky, like Popsicle of Love, or world-musicky like I Zimbra.
In between, I think, is both their creative and popular peak - Little Creatures, Stop Making Sense.
Tangentially, I liked how Byrne's book (and TED Talk) discusses the extent to which spaces CBGBs - narrow and live - complemented and enhanced the sounds they happened to be making. Short delays, hard surfaces. Just as Gregorian chants and 18th-century chamber music worked well in the spaces those musics were performed in. Characteristically, he leaves open whether it's chicken or egg.
― Tegumai Bopsulai (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 15 September 2017 14:26 (seven years ago) link
spaces LIKE
For me, Fear of Music is 50% peak Heads and 50% awkward murkiness that doesn't push my buttons. The live albums (and vids of course) are the best intro to the band.
― Shat Parp (dog latin), Friday, 15 September 2017 14:26 (seven years ago) link
otm
― you are juror number 144 and we will excuse you (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 15 September 2017 14:32 (seven years ago) link
fear of music is their best album
― Week of Wonders (Ross), Monday, 16 October 2017 04:29 (seven years ago) link
I actually really, really like Little Creatures. It's quality cheerfulness. I don't know the first two albums but LC is my fave out of albums 3 to 8.
― Valentijn, Monday, 16 October 2017 06:50 (seven years ago) link
Can't get enough of this Rome, 1980 version of "Born Under Punches"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YO7N2tFb0X8
― Prometheus Freed's Rock and Roll Pâté (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 17 February 2018 22:52 (six years ago) link
hell yeah
that version is great, creepier in a different way than the studio version. this show/era was great. i love the super slow languorous intros to Crosseyed and Painless
― flappy bird, Sunday, 18 February 2018 00:05 (six years ago) link
That is really good. At points the groove got real Lagos and the dual basses is a bit Miles Davis, that's a real good take.
― earlnash, Sunday, 18 February 2018 00:12 (six years ago) link
I don't think I've ever heard that. Straight fire.
Tina.
Wow.
― persona non gratin (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 18 February 2018 01:36 (six years ago) link