Talking Heads- Classic or Dud?

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Now, back to the topic...

The point being that playing funky stuff every so often doesn't make you a funk band.

― Wewlay Bewlay (Tom D.), Wednesday, September 13, 2017 5:47 PM (forty-two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

In Talking Heads' case, this is more than "every so often" ...

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Wednesday, 13 September 2017 18:32 (seven years ago) link

is there something wrong with saying tina weymouth is a funky bass player? i don't get ilx sometimes....

Week of Wonders (Ross), Wednesday, 13 September 2017 18:33 (seven years ago) link

it's just music christ

Week of Wonders (Ross), Wednesday, 13 September 2017 18:34 (seven years ago) link

No, I just thought it was funny that, at the same time, other people were defending Talking Heads by arguing that it's crazy and wrong to call them funk.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Wednesday, 13 September 2017 19:31 (seven years ago) link

Talking Heads = Music Christ. it is settled law.

you are juror number 144 and we will excuse you (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 13 September 2017 19:36 (seven years ago) link

Amen!

Frederik B, Wednesday, 13 September 2017 19:43 (seven years ago) link

The album wasn't called Fear of Funk after all.

Wewlay Bewlay (Tom D.), Wednesday, 13 September 2017 19:47 (seven years ago) link

No, I just thought it was funny that, at the same time, other people were defending Talking Heads by arguing that it's crazy and wrong to call them funk.

You have to put that in the context of the original post that kicked all this off:

I'm often left with the impression that they're a white funk band for people who perhaps consider themselves a little too artsy and deep to listen to the real deal

And then all manner of further nonsense from the same poster thereafter.

Wewlay Bewlay (Tom D.), Wednesday, 13 September 2017 19:50 (seven years ago) link

Who considers themselves too artsy to listen to real funk anyway? Hasn't that been cool for decades?

Frederik B, Wednesday, 13 September 2017 19:52 (seven years ago) link

Or am I reading it wrong and does 'the real deal' mean that somehow Jamiriqoi is where it's at?

Frederik B, Wednesday, 13 September 2017 19:55 (seven years ago) link

"This song started from a jam," says bassist Tina Weymouth in the liner notes of Once in a Lifetime: The Best of Talking Heads. "Chris [Frantz, drummer] had just been to see Parliament-Funkadelic in its full glory at Madison Square Garden, and he was really hyped. During the jam, he kept yelling 'Burn down the house!' which was a P-Funk audience chant, and David dug the line, changing it to the finished version, 'Burning down the house'." (Bernie Worrell of Parliament-Funkadelic joined Talking Heads' live incarnation.)

llurk, Wednesday, 13 September 2017 19:59 (seven years ago) link

hmm, so there does appear to be a connection between talking heads and funk

very interesting

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 13 September 2017 19:59 (seven years ago) link

boy did this become tedious

mission accomplished Turrican

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 13 September 2017 20:03 (seven years ago) link

Didn't they work with that guy what's his face from Roxy Music? So they're clearly glam rock!

Frederik B, Wednesday, 13 September 2017 20:09 (seven years ago) link

Yeah, sorry, this is tedious. I'll fap myself out.

Frederik B, Wednesday, 13 September 2017 20:09 (seven years ago) link

they are actually a white rap group cf David Byrne's rapping on Crosseyed and Painless

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 13 September 2017 20:11 (seven years ago) link

let's change the topic. how about this one: all of sgt pepper's is totally overrated. and after that: that thing your grandma told you on your 6th birthday party that stuck with you your entire life? it wasn't that insightful, and you didn't even remember it correctly. final topic: that thing you like? no, wrong.

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 13 September 2017 20:11 (seven years ago) link

except for those times they used a pedal steel guitar, then they were a white country group

xp

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 13 September 2017 20:12 (seven years ago) link

xp i liked that post up until your final topic explained very clearly how it was wrong to do so

you are juror number 144 and we will excuse you (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 13 September 2017 20:31 (seven years ago) link

lol
well, at least david byrne might appreciate the contradiction

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 13 September 2017 20:54 (seven years ago) link

Y'know. I've really been thinking today. About a lot of things. Talking Heads. Can. What funk is and is not. How to form an argument. And I just want to say to Turrican: Thank You. Because you make me a better person. I mean, you don't really 'better' anything, you're an awful piece of shit, who clearly couldn't construct a cohesive argument if you're life depended on it, clearly hasn't heard an appropriate amount of funk music, and you seem to have some deep rooted issues related to masturbation, which is a good and natural thing. I guess what I mean to say is this: You're lowering the bar. And you do that for all of us. And the way my life has been going these last few months, I really needed that. So Thank You.

Also, I guess I should really stop watching BoJack Horseman at this point.

Frederik B, Wednesday, 13 September 2017 21:00 (seven years ago) link

I'm often left with the impression that Bojack Horseman is the horse cartoon for people who perhaps consider themselves a little too artsy and deep to watch the real deal, my little pony

you are juror number 144 and we will excuse you (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 13 September 2017 21:06 (seven years ago) link

roflz

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 13 September 2017 21:06 (seven years ago) link

Holy shit

It was in front of us all along

Turrican is fred b

ps talking heads are a really shit band, like they're bad at music and sound bad.

passé aggresif (darraghmac), Wednesday, 13 September 2017 21:23 (seven years ago) link

Also yanks note the 'are a shit band' not 'is a shit band' it's little things like this that make ye stand out as not native speakers

passé aggresif (darraghmac), Wednesday, 13 September 2017 21:26 (seven years ago) link

Thanks for clarifying that Sund4r :)

Week of Wonders (Ross), Wednesday, 13 September 2017 21:54 (seven years ago) link

So did we figure out if Talking Heads are a funk band or what?

Shat Parp (dog latin), Wednesday, 13 September 2017 22:11 (seven years ago) link

No, we found out that people are in denial about it and Frederik B is a middle aged divorcee with an anger problem, who seems to enjoy re-using the exact wording of his personal correspondence.

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Thursday, 14 September 2017 05:31 (seven years ago) link

(with some words changed obviously)

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Thursday, 14 September 2017 05:33 (seven years ago) link

I LOVE TALKING HEADS

Karl Malone, Thursday, 14 September 2017 05:35 (seven years ago) link

No, we found out that people are in denial about it
- everyone is in denial
and Frederik B is a middle aged
- who cares how old he is
divorcee
- who cares
with an anger problem
- I'M GONNA PUNCH A WALL
, who seems to enjoy re-using the exact wording of his personal correspondence.
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i love talking heads

Karl Malone, Thursday, 14 September 2017 05:36 (seven years ago) link

Now now, there's no need to start going and punching walls.

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Thursday, 14 September 2017 05:42 (seven years ago) link

clearly ilm is going through a golden era

Shat Parp (dog latin), Thursday, 14 September 2017 07:54 (seven years ago) link

what's the cutoff for a "golden era"? anything under two?

bob lefse (rushomancy), Thursday, 14 September 2017 12:34 (seven years ago) link

Animal think...they're pretty smart
Shit on the ground...see in the dark.

rock and roll tucci coo (voodoo chili), Thursday, 14 September 2017 14:27 (seven years ago) link

What about Houston?
What about Detroit?

Eazy, Thursday, 14 September 2017 14:29 (seven years ago) link

WHAT ABOUT PITTSBURGH P-A?

rock and roll tucci coo (voodoo chili), Thursday, 14 September 2017 14:35 (seven years ago) link

Some TH playing in Morrisons when I was doing my shopping last evening, very deep and artsy.

The Doug Walters of Crime (Tom D.), Friday, 15 September 2017 09:47 (seven years ago) link

All the fans of real funk fled

Shat Parp (dog latin), Friday, 15 September 2017 09:48 (seven years ago) link

I've never been too crazy about them, don't dislike them really either, just ambivalent I guess. However, On the strength of this thread, I decided to DL Fear of Music and the live thingy. Will live with them for a week or so and see if they click. Off topic but the Liam Gallagher pre-covers thing is wonderful. Nice work everybody.

VyrnaKnowlIsAHeadbanger, Friday, 15 September 2017 14:14 (seven years ago) link

Much of early Heads, like say, Name of This Band is spiky art-punky, with the uber trebly sound and intentionally naïve/awkward vibe.

Late Heads could be funky, like Popsicle of Love, or world-musicky like I Zimbra.

In between, I think, is both their creative and popular peak - Little Creatures, Stop Making Sense.

Tangentially, I liked how Byrne's book (and TED Talk) discusses the extent to which spaces CBGBs - narrow and live - complemented and enhanced the sounds they happened to be making. Short delays, hard surfaces. Just as Gregorian chants and 18th-century chamber music worked well in the spaces those musics were performed in. Characteristically, he leaves open whether it's chicken or egg.

Tegumai Bopsulai (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 15 September 2017 14:26 (seven years ago) link

spaces LIKE

Tegumai Bopsulai (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 15 September 2017 14:26 (seven years ago) link

For me, Fear of Music is 50% peak Heads and 50% awkward murkiness that doesn't push my buttons. The live albums (and vids of course) are the best intro to the band.

Shat Parp (dog latin), Friday, 15 September 2017 14:26 (seven years ago) link

otm

you are juror number 144 and we will excuse you (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 15 September 2017 14:32 (seven years ago) link

one month passes...

fear of music is their best album

Week of Wonders (Ross), Monday, 16 October 2017 04:29 (seven years ago) link

I actually really, really like Little Creatures. It's quality cheerfulness. I don't know the first two albums but LC is my fave out of albums 3 to 8.

Valentijn, Monday, 16 October 2017 06:50 (seven years ago) link

four months pass...

Can't get enough of this Rome, 1980 version of "Born Under Punches"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YO7N2tFb0X8

Prometheus Freed's Rock and Roll Pâté (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 17 February 2018 22:52 (six years ago) link

hell yeah

that version is great, creepier in a different way than the studio version. this show/era was great. i love the super slow languorous intros to Crosseyed and Painless

flappy bird, Sunday, 18 February 2018 00:05 (six years ago) link

That is really good. At points the groove got real Lagos and the dual basses is a bit Miles Davis, that's a real good take.

earlnash, Sunday, 18 February 2018 00:12 (six years ago) link

I don't think I've ever heard that. Straight fire.

Tina.

Wow.

persona non gratin (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 18 February 2018 01:36 (six years ago) link


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