IT'S BETTER THAN DRINKIN' ALONE: The Official ILM Track-by-Track BILLY JOEL Listening Thread

I'm liking this album so far!

guitars in the chorus are lovely. damn billy, really bringing it for your last pop album

i agree with doc that this goes on somewhat too long though

I hate the drum sound too (not the drumming, though).

Between the new wave verses, the breezy chorus, the jazzy Steely Dan changes in the bridge, and the Orbison voice, this is an interesting tune! surprising how well it works

the "psycho" verse synth reminds me of "you got lucky."

i'm hearing "spirits in the material world"

yeah, totally!

I like my "Touch and Go" analogy best, sorry

i'm here for the "touch and go" analogy too!

I did almost write "Spirits" though.

Let's just say that this is a more assured New Wave, uh, homage than what he put out in 1983.

the jazzy Steely Dan changes in the bridge

yeah that instrumental break is very aja.

damn billy, really bringing it for your last pop album

i'm starting to get angry at billy for up and quitting after this album. but at the same time starting to admire him that much more for quitting while he was near the top of his game.

as much as i like them more than most ppl itt, the kinda audible exhaustion of the last two records isn't here so far at all

and even though i dread getting it stuck in my head when we finally arrive at it, there's so much animation to the big hit on this record that it makes "fire" and "extremes" seem considerably more labored in comparison

I like The Big Hit more than "Fire" and "Extremes" by like a factor of 10.

i still have a lot of affection for the wordless "lion sleeps tonight"-esque bit he includes in the hook, but we'll get to that when we get there

i like how confident he sounds on this album. this is his swagger album. he's spent so much of his career seemingly trying to prove something. here he's like i know shit sucks in the world but shit's pretty good at home and i can craft a pretty fine tune any time i want and bitch i'm billy joel. i like the pliability of his voice in "blonde and blue," and i like the pliability of the rhythm, too. not the most obvious billy joel song but he just kind of wills it into being, because he can. please don't let me down, rest of river of dreams.

Another comparison to the chorus here is Genesis's "That's All" - "truth is I loved you / more than I wanted to."

bitch i'm billy joel

the true title of river of dreams

"blonde and blue,"

billy's title is better than mine.

yeah this is really good! i like the drumbeat in the verse, the synth stabs, the little new wavey guitar under it, the way his voice goes up into falsetto on "blonde over BLOOOOOOOOO"

the bridge is kinda arty for sec there too

seriously this was NOT what i was expecting at all after being super underwhelmed by the non-singles on the last 2 albums, i thought this was gonna be a real dispirited affair, with a suspicion that the title track/hit was possibly a leftover from the Innocent Man era he'd had sitting on the shelf

honestly "Blonde Over Blue" might be one of my fav Billy Joel songs now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PtSIJwXhqY

A Minor Variation is a blues exercise with just a pinch of Otis.

...and more than a pinch of robert palmer in the way he begins the verses with the double-tracked chest/falsetto vocal. which is pretty much the only part of the song i like. this is a wisp of a hint of an idea for a mood stretched out over a way-too-long five and a half minutes.

the main intro first verse riff reminds me of having band practice and someone starts playing some little lick and everyone joins in and you are all like hey that's pretty fun so someone records it quick then you play it back at next week's practice you are all excited to get back to it and then you play it back and yr all like ehhh...that's kinda boring :/

Well, we were due for one of these.

This was one of the two that I was dreading. Listening back now, there's a crispness to it that doesn't hurt, but Billy stuttering and wailing through a laboured pastiche is about the last thing in the world that I'd ever want from him.

ooh now i'm curious what the other one is

"it's such a sad composition!" - billy reviewing his own song

this is the longest song ever recorded

boring filler yeah but less irritating to me than similarly-situated material on the last record. i'm repeating myself but the slightly more convincing sense of musicians in a room playing off each other really really helps, though in this case it's helping it fade into the background rather than helping me like the song. idk it was probably pleasant to play but it's a little worrisome that nobody vetoed its large footprint in the tracklist.

its large footprint in the tracklist

is this the only billy joel lp that backloaded, rather than frontloaded, its singles? the two bigs ones are both on side 2, taking up space that otherwise could've been used for filler like this!

i wonder how much of the frontloading was phil ramone. it wasn't absent in the pre-phil LPs but it was very consistent on those, and it also happens on, e.g. still crazy after all these years, in a way that doesn't seem to be true of kootch's henley blockbusters.

Certainly filler and too long, but still not as generic as similar tracks on other albums. The main riff during the verses is kind of hypnotic actually. this sounds fine in the background, which is more than I can say about tracks like "House of Blue Light"

have y'all heard Building the Perfect Beast? Sequenced well and Henley, I hate to say, is on point.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CopYqp0HZkY

Shades of Grey closes side one - though at this point the only "sides" are on cassettes, as this album did not get an American vinyl release until 2014. Self-produced by Billy, the track features the album's lone contribution from Liberty DeVitto (I should also have flagged up Richie Cannata's one-off return on "A Minor Variation"). It reminds me of... Boston?!

Speaking of Bryan Ferry...man, does Joel sound mannered on this one.

I like this one.

I didn't listen to this album in full until maybe 2003 or so. Was expecting to hear a bunch of singalong Lion King songs like the hit, but this was the one that shook my lapels by surprise.

(And yes, I know I keep bringing up the Lion King here. It was one of the first major children's milestones to happen after I had become "an adult," something to be avoided at all costs. That time and this album, by a musician I so revered as a kid, happened simultaneously.)

chorus is definitely Boston! this has some good energy

verses ask the musical question "What if Ritchie Sambora joined the Police?"

dig it. feels like something that could have been on Glass Houses

feels like something that could have been on Glass Houses

guitar stabs definitely calling back to "sleeping with the television on"

"What if Ritchie Sambora joined the Police?"

I'll take "Questions no one has asked in the history of ever" for $500, Alex.

just asking the tough questions

i'm the mike wallace of richie sambora

man, does Joel sound mannered on this one.

i can't tell if he's trying to be mannered or if it's just that he just sounds like different singers depending on which part of his range he's in. this is one of a couple songs on this album side that, in a blindfold test, i might guess were sung by two or three different singers.

when he sings "shades of grey are the colors i see" in the last chorus, i swear i'm suddenly listening to the hassles or attila. not sure if it's the vocal tone, the melody, the way he's harmonizing it or all of the above. but i'm kind of interested in hearing more. doctor c expressed his mild disappointment, when we began this album, that it is not a series of style exercises inspired by Nirvana, 10,000 Maniacs, Faith No More, R.E.M., and Tori Amos. if the album opened with "shades of grey," i might beg to differ.

also, this is a decent commentary on the state of politics in 2017.

whoa this song is great

that instrumental part right before the chorus = chef's kiss

his voice has also been in really good shape this whole record

this is liberty on drums right? bc he's fucking killing it

"ok i've only got one track on this album, better bring out the metal fills"

liberty delaying the beat on the last line of the verse ("my faith has fallen away")... exquisite