Xxp Kirby has a concept, though. Granduciel is walking in socks over cold coals.
― The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:30 (seven years ago)
I still don't really get what everyone liked so much about Black Beatles. I don't hate it, just does nothing much for me.
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:31 (seven years ago)
I think this is the first Laurel Halo album I like mainly on the strength of Moontalk alone but yes... it's way too dependent on its own quirks and weirdness.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:32 (seven years ago)
moontalk is an amazing song! yeah
― In a slipshod style (Ross), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:33 (seven years ago)
moka check out the king felix stuff if you haven't heard it, "spring" by king felix and her halo album "king felix"
― In a slipshod style (Ross), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:35 (seven years ago)
I did not know about that project. Listening to spring now and it sounds amazing! Thanks for the recommendation.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:46 (seven years ago)
:) sweet
― In a slipshod style (Ross), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:49 (seven years ago)
the Fever Ray album was really disappointing to me
― ufo, Friday, 15 December 2017 22:41 (seven years ago)
why? show your work :)
― sleeve, Friday, 15 December 2017 22:43 (seven years ago)
Sleaford Mods - this guy used to sound angry, now he just sounds bored (I do like most of the previous records)
― sleeve, Saturday, 16 December 2017 01:09 (seven years ago)
Fever Ray was also so-so for me. I like the knife and the first fever ray album a lot, so I thought for sure this would be one of my favorite albums of the year but alas it ended being one of the most dissapointing ones for me. It’s just so hard to sit through... even harder than ‘shaking the habitual’ and that’s saying something.
I can get past the hamfisted lyrics (either way lyrics has never been her strong point), but the textures and production are sort of uninteresting too, the middle of the album is specially boring or annoying and contains some of her worst songs ever (“this country” really wtf is up with that).
I don’t know... I guess it’s just alright in small doses but I don’t want ‘just alright’ from her.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 16 December 2017 08:33 (seven years ago)
Ok maybe the production isn’t uninteresting... but it’s too harsh and irritating more often than not. I get that maybe that was her intent with this particular album but I’m not a masochist, sorry.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 16 December 2017 08:43 (seven years ago)
Yeah, my love for the first Fever Ray album is immense, this one is not bAd exactly, just very disappointing
― Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Saturday, 16 December 2017 10:56 (seven years ago)
yeah I agree with all of that Moka
the production mostly feels like lesser retreads of Silent Shout and the Fever Ray s/t, and the songwriting lacks the memorable melodies. the lyrics are a step down too - Silent Shout especially could be quite evocative but they're more hamfisted here and the BDSM subject matter of some of it is completely uninteresting to me
― ufo, Saturday, 16 December 2017 11:09 (seven years ago)
heh this = lack of money > money
King Krule was the overrated hype of the year for me. Could barely get through that mess 3 times.
So I will probably dig his next record :P
― Ludo, Saturday, 16 December 2017 19:04 (seven years ago)
Fever ray album is fucking great, just took time to grow on me. I mean it's not that different texturally fromThe debut it's just more hyper kinetic arrangement wise. Give it some time, mustn't hurry
― In a slipshod style (Ross), Saturday, 16 December 2017 19:21 (seven years ago)
Lyrics aren't her strong point?? When I grow up and seven would put that theory to the test, memorable imo
― In a slipshod style (Ross), Saturday, 16 December 2017 19:22 (seven years ago)
think dude had a pretty decent office job for a fair while before the band blew up so I'm not sure this is a big factor. latest album hasn't really landed for me like the previous ones though, could be a law of diminishing returns thing but I had (have) no issue with their complete lack of progression so idk
― thirst trap your hare (DJ Mencap), Saturday, 16 December 2017 22:12 (seven years ago)
You’re right I take it back, heartbeats alone is one of the few sweet songs they have and it has some beautiful lines in there. The debut also has some stunning imagery... I’m just way too frustrated with this album.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 16 December 2017 22:19 (seven years ago)
moka, all good bud :)
i found the album hard to parse for quite a while tbh
― In a slipshod style (Ross), Saturday, 16 December 2017 23:12 (seven years ago)
This thread is tonic
Charly bliss - musical equivalent of doing lines of pixie stix
(Sandy) Alex g - i guess at a certain point all music / art will become a sort of lightly branded tabula rasa content for us to project upon
― pre millennial tension (uptown churl), Monday, 18 December 2017 16:33 (seven years ago)
'Reclaims the avant-garde' is probably a worse line than anything in that 'overpraise' thread. It's nearly time for my hitpiece
― imago, Tuesday, 2 January 2018 16:49 (seven years ago)
Oh yea, the avant-garde has been reclaimed by some Berklee kid with an expensive synth set-up, a cloying lyrical sensibility and no songwriting skill to speak of! But it all sounds so burbly. Oo goo this be thee musick of thee spheres!
― imago, Tuesday, 2 January 2018 16:52 (seven years ago)
I could and will go on
man, fuck you
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 2 January 2018 17:20 (seven years ago)
TBH I fully encourage him to keep all this annoying shit in here this year.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 2 January 2018 17:22 (seven years ago)
I've had a bad day, so fuck you
― imago, Tuesday, 2 January 2018 17:23 (seven years ago)
1. The Gorgeous 2. Sixth Album 3. From California 4. Landscapist Kaitlyn 5. Aurelia 6. Smith Reclaims The Avant-Garde 7. From Noiseniks8. Dronesters, Moaners, Skronkers, Mathletes 9. And Art-Punks10. Challenging 11. But Beautiful12. Pastoral 13. But Hyperactive
― imago, Tuesday, 2 January 2018 17:27 (seven years ago)
this is a thread for slagging off and venting. slag off anything. slag off Richard Dawson. I won't care. but I'm not holding back here
― imago, Tuesday, 2 January 2018 17:29 (seven years ago)
you're engaging with both a record and with a fellow ilxor's writing in a totally disingenuous, obnoxious, shitty way just to tell your "truths" or whatever so like, fuck you, still
matt otm though
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 2 January 2018 17:30 (seven years ago)
there are ways to slag off and vent without being a total shithead imo
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 2 January 2018 17:31 (seven years ago)
i love music, the board for people who love music
― you shoulda killfiled me last year (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 2 January 2018 17:33 (seven years ago)
as requested: sacred paws is just insipid tropical good-vibesy nothingcore imo, but it's no big deal really. if absolutely everyone loved it then I'd be more vituperative but they're a minor concern just doing what they're doing and that can remain someone else's business
― #TeamHailing (imago), Tuesday, 9 January 2018 17:34 (seven years ago)
imago otm
LOL @ hurt butts itt
― the late great, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 19:30 (seven years ago)
Jlin - if I wanted to hear a quantized sample of a CD skipping, I'd listen to an Oval CD from 1999
what if you wanted to hear CDs skipping with heavy 808 bass beneath? oval has non 808 bass
also: king krule rools, u all drool
― the late great, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 19:31 (seven years ago)
I know this is going to make me unpopular but I'm just gonna say it, I don't think Yes needed to release another live album in 2017
― frogbs, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 19:32 (seven years ago)
oh no u
― #TeamHailing (imago), Tuesday, 9 January 2018 19:50 (seven years ago)
just don't say it at late at night in the U.S.
― change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 9 January 2018 19:55 (seven years ago)
i'll just get this out of the way: most of the 2017 music is bad
― brimstead, Friday, December 15, 2017 3:58 PM (three weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i feel this way too? idk. there is little that i feel excited about or drawn to when i go through most 2017 lists
― marcos, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 19:59 (seven years ago)
i totally agree w/r/t almost everything that isn't a house 12" or a reissue of some sort
but i think that's down to the age of the listener (toll of 24 years of active music hipsterism) rather than the quality of the music
― the late great, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 20:01 (seven years ago)
I don't really feel that way late at night for whatever reason
― frogbs, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 20:02 (seven years ago)
Jlin - one track limit with her stuff, just is way too maddening and jarring - def of acquired taste
― kolakube (Ross), Tuesday, 9 January 2018 20:10 (seven years ago)
that was just a tautology, most music from every year is bad
but
yeah same here
― brimstead, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 20:10 (seven years ago)
vote gabor lazar this year for your "sounds like cd skipping" needs
― brimstead, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 20:19 (seven years ago)
i like literally dozens of records that came out this year but somehow i still wind up listening to nothing but '70s music all the time
at some point i'll stop pretending but not until i run out of disk space
― bob lefse (rushomancy), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 03:50 (seven years ago)
Wow @ people shitting on Jlin. I thought Black Origami was way more interesting/fun than Dark Energy
― the man from P.O.R.L.O.C.K. (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 18:35 (seven years ago)
my assumption is that they are new to footwork in general and don't really *get it* yet
― the late great, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 18:38 (seven years ago)
Loved the final ;_; DJ Rashad album but this has been a bit arid for my tastes. Might return to it
― #TeamHailing (imago), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 18:41 (seven years ago)
"arid" is a good way to put it
― the late great, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 18:48 (seven years ago)
i definitely didn't get it till i saw her live at Day For Night, experiencing it in a physical space really made me engage with the album on physical terms instead of approaching it conceptually like i had been. it's tougher to crack than Rashad for sure, mostly because Rashad consciously aimed to create a "pop"-ish version of footwork and Jlin has absolutely no interest in that from what i can tell.
― austinb, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 19:01 (seven years ago)
I mean Rachel WFYE moving on from Nate WFYE to Lenderman might well be a boyfriend upgrade. Definitely isn't a fuckin songwriter upgrade (which is why WFYE stiil exists I guess lol)
― imago, Tuesday, 23 September 2025 15:44 (yesterday)
Is this the ilm gossip column thread now?
― Toshirō Nofune (The Seventh ILXorai), Tuesday, 23 September 2025 15:48 (yesterday)
That's common public knowledge ffs
― imago, Tuesday, 23 September 2025 15:50 (yesterday)
is it?
― Baronet Drowned in Night Frolic (President Keyes), Tuesday, 23 September 2025 15:56 (yesterday)
It was in a published interview I read
― imago, Tuesday, 23 September 2025 16:01 (yesterday)
I tend to not hear about these things until there's a break-up album or an abuse allegation.
― Baronet Drowned in Night Frolic (President Keyes), Tuesday, 23 September 2025 16:02 (yesterday)
"Posters only love you when they're posting..."
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 23 September 2025 17:26 (yesterday)
Frederik, I never meant to imply "everything is retro, nothing is original." Only that Wednesday in particular don't sound very "retro" to me. There are other young indie bands that I think do sound retro (Momma comes to mind). Why some artists strike me that way while others don't, is something I'm still figuring out. I also want to be clear that I'm not pooh-poohing the idea of originality.I do think, to an extent, we are living in a kind of post-retro age. Aesthetics from many different times and places have been rubbing up against each other and synthesizing since at least the 90s, and certainly for my entire time as an engaged music listener. Some styles have already been revived, and re-revived, to a point they no longer read as referential to some original influence, while still legible as part of a lineage of influence, and that's how I hear Wednesday: as a descendant of Swirlies/Uncle Tupelo/Breeders/whoever else you want to name drop, not a band whose M.O. is just "hey, remember 90s alt-rock?" Again, this may be a product of my particular point of view in time: by the time I started getting into music in the early 2000s, 90s alt-rock was *already* this relic from a recently-vanished past, something to be revived. So I've always kinda experienced it through that rosey lens.
― feed me with your chips (zchyrs), Tuesday, 23 September 2025 17:32 (yesterday)
relevant perhaps to this discussion I'm seeing a lot of comments on YMO videos from (presumably) new listeners who are surprised it's from 1981 and not the early 2000s. obviously they were ahead of their time but not by *that* much...I think its more that there was a full on 80s revival going on then and I would imagine younger listeners maybe aren't able to make that distinction
I mean, I was born in 86, so to me anything from say 1968 until then was 'old music', but anything before that was really old music - the stuff my parents listened to vs. the stuff my grandparents listened to, though that was obviously from before the era of recorded music as we know it today - might be confusing to the new generation when their grandparents listened to Talking Heads and their parents listened to stuff that knocked off Talking Heads
― frogbs, Tuesday, 23 September 2025 17:44 (yesterday)
we listened to Tom Tom Club, our kids listened to Mariah Carey sampling Tom Tom Club, our grandkids listened to Latto sampling Mariah Carey sampling Tom Tom Club
― Baronet Drowned in Night Frolic (President Keyes), Tuesday, 23 September 2025 17:57 (yesterday)
my favorite podcast plays bits of it every week as part of a regular segment, and they always rep for Tom Tom despite clearly having no idea who they are or their connection to Talking Heads
― Evans on Hammond (evol j), Tuesday, 23 September 2025 19:07 (yesterday)
― imago, Tuesday, September 23, 2025 11:44 AM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
well I guess I know who will be attending their Carrboro show tomorrow night.
― Evans on Hammond (evol j), Tuesday, 23 September 2025 19:10 (yesterday)
I keep reading WFYE as some new feminist spelling for Wife
― Baronet Drowned in Night Frolic (President Keyes), Tuesday, 23 September 2025 20:02 (yesterday)
I guess this is where the conversation about the new Wednesday album is? I was listening to it this morning and thinking that I hadn't seen a revive. Not as good as the last one, but there are a few good jams on it.
I dunno, I know for a fact that I gravitate toward certain new artists because they tap into an aesthetic that has been in my veins since adolescence and thus will always appeal to me. But I am also a dilettante who listens to a lot of stuff, so I don't feel like I am getting overly excited about anyone in particular or that it's coming at the expense of appreciating other kinds of music.
― jaymc, Tuesday, 23 September 2025 20:29 (yesterday)
their own thread was briefly revived: a thread for the North Carolina twangy indie-rock band Wednesday
definitely very ilm-in-2025 that this thread was the more active one though
― rob, Tuesday, 23 September 2025 20:35 (yesterday)
WFYE was where I used to buy CDs at the Mall, iirc
― feed me with your chips (zchyrs), Tuesday, 23 September 2025 20:36 (yesterday)