yeah I agree with all of that Moka
the production mostly feels like lesser retreads of Silent Shout and the Fever Ray s/t, and the songwriting lacks the memorable melodies. the lyrics are a step down too - Silent Shout especially could be quite evocative but they're more hamfisted here and the BDSM subject matter of some of it is completely uninteresting to me
― ufo, Saturday, 16 December 2017 11:09 (six years ago) link
Sleaford Mods - this guy used to sound angry, now he just sounds bored (I do like most of the previous records)
heh this = lack of money > money
King Krule was the overrated hype of the year for me. Could barely get through that mess 3 times.
So I will probably dig his next record :P
― Ludo, Saturday, 16 December 2017 19:04 (six years ago) link
Fever ray album is fucking great, just took time to grow on me. I mean it's not that different texturally fromThe debut it's just more hyper kinetic arrangement wise. Give it some time, mustn't hurry
― In a slipshod style (Ross), Saturday, 16 December 2017 19:21 (six years ago) link
Lyrics aren't her strong point?? When I grow up and seven would put that theory to the test, memorable imo
― In a slipshod style (Ross), Saturday, 16 December 2017 19:22 (six years ago) link
think dude had a pretty decent office job for a fair while before the band blew up so I'm not sure this is a big factor. latest album hasn't really landed for me like the previous ones though, could be a law of diminishing returns thing but I had (have) no issue with their complete lack of progression so idk
― thirst trap your hare (DJ Mencap), Saturday, 16 December 2017 22:12 (six years ago) link
You’re right I take it back, heartbeats alone is one of the few sweet songs they have and it has some beautiful lines in there. The debut also has some stunning imagery... I’m just way too frustrated with this album.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 16 December 2017 22:19 (six years ago) link
moka, all good bud :)
i found the album hard to parse for quite a while tbh
― In a slipshod style (Ross), Saturday, 16 December 2017 23:12 (six years ago) link
This thread is tonic
Charly bliss - musical equivalent of doing lines of pixie stix
(Sandy) Alex g - i guess at a certain point all music / art will become a sort of lightly branded tabula rasa content for us to project upon
― pre millennial tension (uptown churl), Monday, 18 December 2017 16:33 (six years ago) link
'Reclaims the avant-garde' is probably a worse line than anything in that 'overpraise' thread. It's nearly time for my hitpiece
― imago, Tuesday, 2 January 2018 16:49 (six years ago) link
Oh yea, the avant-garde has been reclaimed by some Berklee kid with an expensive synth set-up, a cloying lyrical sensibility and no songwriting skill to speak of! But it all sounds so burbly. Oo goo this be thee musick of thee spheres!
― imago, Tuesday, 2 January 2018 16:52 (six years ago) link
I could and will go on
man, fuck you
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 2 January 2018 17:20 (six years ago) link
TBH I fully encourage him to keep all this annoying shit in here this year.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 2 January 2018 17:22 (six years ago) link
I've had a bad day, so fuck you
― imago, Tuesday, 2 January 2018 17:23 (six years ago) link
1. The Gorgeous 2. Sixth Album 3. From California 4. Landscapist Kaitlyn 5. Aurelia 6. Smith Reclaims The Avant-Garde 7. From Noiseniks8. Dronesters, Moaners, Skronkers, Mathletes 9. And Art-Punks10. Challenging 11. But Beautiful12. Pastoral 13. But Hyperactive
― imago, Tuesday, 2 January 2018 17:27 (six years ago) link
this is a thread for slagging off and venting. slag off anything. slag off Richard Dawson. I won't care. but I'm not holding back here
― imago, Tuesday, 2 January 2018 17:29 (six years ago) link
you're engaging with both a record and with a fellow ilxor's writing in a totally disingenuous, obnoxious, shitty way just to tell your "truths" or whatever so like, fuck you, still
matt otm though
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 2 January 2018 17:30 (six years ago) link
there are ways to slag off and vent without being a total shithead imo
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 2 January 2018 17:31 (six years ago) link
i love music, the board for people who love music
― you shoulda killfiled me last year (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 2 January 2018 17:33 (six years ago) link
as requested: sacred paws is just insipid tropical good-vibesy nothingcore imo, but it's no big deal really. if absolutely everyone loved it then I'd be more vituperative but they're a minor concern just doing what they're doing and that can remain someone else's business
― #TeamHailing (imago), Tuesday, 9 January 2018 17:34 (six years ago) link
imago otm
LOL @ hurt butts itt
― the late great, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 19:30 (six years ago) link
Jlin - if I wanted to hear a quantized sample of a CD skipping, I'd listen to an Oval CD from 1999
what if you wanted to hear CDs skipping with heavy 808 bass beneath? oval has non 808 bass
also: king krule rools, u all drool
― the late great, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 19:31 (six years ago) link
I know this is going to make me unpopular but I'm just gonna say it, I don't think Yes needed to release another live album in 2017
― frogbs, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 19:32 (six years ago) link
oh no u
― #TeamHailing (imago), Tuesday, 9 January 2018 19:50 (six years ago) link
just don't say it at late at night in the U.S.
― change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 9 January 2018 19:55 (six years ago) link
i'll just get this out of the way: most of the 2017 music is bad
― brimstead, Friday, December 15, 2017 3:58 PM (three weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i feel this way too? idk. there is little that i feel excited about or drawn to when i go through most 2017 lists
― marcos, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 19:59 (six years ago) link
i totally agree w/r/t almost everything that isn't a house 12" or a reissue of some sort
but i think that's down to the age of the listener (toll of 24 years of active music hipsterism) rather than the quality of the music
― the late great, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 20:01 (six years ago) link
I don't really feel that way late at night for whatever reason
― frogbs, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 20:02 (six years ago) link
Jlin - one track limit with her stuff, just is way too maddening and jarring - def of acquired taste
― kolakube (Ross), Tuesday, 9 January 2018 20:10 (six years ago) link
that was just a tautology, most music from every year is bad
but
yeah same here
― brimstead, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 20:10 (six years ago) link
vote gabor lazar this year for your "sounds like cd skipping" needs
― brimstead, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 20:19 (six years ago) link
i like literally dozens of records that came out this year but somehow i still wind up listening to nothing but '70s music all the time
at some point i'll stop pretending but not until i run out of disk space
― bob lefse (rushomancy), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 03:50 (six years ago) link
Wow @ people shitting on Jlin. I thought Black Origami was way more interesting/fun than Dark Energy
― the man from P.O.R.L.O.C.K. (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 18:35 (six years ago) link
my assumption is that they are new to footwork in general and don't really *get it* yet
― the late great, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 18:38 (six years ago) link
Loved the final ;_; DJ Rashad album but this has been a bit arid for my tastes. Might return to it
― #TeamHailing (imago), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 18:41 (six years ago) link
"arid" is a good way to put it
― the late great, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 18:48 (six years ago) link
i definitely didn't get it till i saw her live at Day For Night, experiencing it in a physical space really made me engage with the album on physical terms instead of approaching it conceptually like i had been. it's tougher to crack than Rashad for sure, mostly because Rashad consciously aimed to create a "pop"-ish version of footwork and Jlin has absolutely no interest in that from what i can tell.
― austinb, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 19:01 (six years ago) link
I think my only problem with Jlin is how people write about it, "futuristic sound design" comes up a lot. To my ears her tracks are these very dense, pointillistic arrangements of one-shot samples that haven't been altered much, they sound like sample packs. And that's very 'footwork', it's fine. Her main innovation imo is doubling down on the 12/8 feel that has been creeping into footwork, and turning it into this West African polyrhythmic thing.
― change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 19:06 (six years ago) link
I try not to post too much about music I don't like, cos this is I Love Music after all, and tbh I haven't heard that much 2017 music that I don't like apart from some generic hardcore/punk records that nobody here (save maybe DJ Mencap) listens to anyway. BUT! I can say I heard a King Krule single and thought it was shit! Participation!
― Colonel Poo, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 19:10 (six years ago) link
Jordan, i definitely get that and i think it's mostly people mistaking density for innovation. i'm more interested in the cultural implications of, like you said, her blend of footwork with west african polyrhythmic stuff than i am in the ~experimentalness~ of it all.
― austinb, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 19:20 (six years ago) link
xp i agree w the big main point of what you're saying jordan but 1) iirc jlin made her own samples for black origami and 2) it isn't just about the individual samples but also the mixing, mastering, etc. on a big-ass system jlin's tracks sound heavy and massive in a way that old footwork tracks don't
― the late great, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 19:20 (six years ago) link
I buy that, even seeing a live clip from awhile back gave that sense.
iirc jlin made her own samples for black origami
I still don't buy this, although I guess it depends on the definition of what makes a sample your own. And I'm mostly talking about the percussion anyway. It's ok, not everyone has to record their own samples. I am curious to hear that dance score that she did, it would be cool to hear what a Jlin track that's not 160bpm in 12/8 sounds like.
― change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 19:39 (six years ago) link
Late great , that assumption is wrong in my case
― kolakube (Ross), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 19:45 (six years ago) link
duly noted
― the late great, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 20:03 (six years ago) link
fwiw ppl in chicago dont really see her stuff as 'footwork' any more, its def more of a hybridization thing
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 20:45 (six years ago) link
(i quite like it)
I adore Jlin and the album will be very very high on my list (fuck, it might even win it), but I kind of agree with people that it's not that "futuristic" or "experimental". The techniques and stylisation aren't super new, they just sound fucking awesome.
I probably should stay away from this thread, though, b/c it'll just bum me out.
― emil.y, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 20:46 (six years ago) link
xp deej is footwork still a going concern in chicago? or are the kids onto some new trend?
― the late great, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 20:52 (six years ago) link
its fallen off as a super popular thing basically as rap music started to rise, but there are def people who still hold onto it & do events at schools and shit like that
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 20:53 (six years ago) link
seem to remember that 'experimental' was suggested by jlin herself as an alternative to 'footwork', but if neither of those are any good then what the heck do you call this music? two things i'd say to the haterz tho: spotify + earbuds or whatever don't really do justice to this record, and also it's the last songs on the album that are the real bangers imo, especially 1%: "you're all going to die here"
― faust apes (NickB), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 20:54 (six years ago) link
maybe he's gone Trump idk
Since I brought this up, no, he def hasn't, as proven by that opening track, which is why I hedged with "for much of his career if not still". Dunno where I got this misconception from, read something along those lines in the 90's and then the Al Sharpton joke in "One In The Morning" plus guest spot on "Accidental Racist" cemented it for me. Happy to hear it's not true tho!
― Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 17 September 2024 21:02 (one week ago) link
all i know is, one transgender sex worker names you as one of their clients, ever afterwards trans people smile and wink when your name comes up in conversation. i mean personally, i think if you're a sex worker it's kinda rude to publicly name your clients like that. i mean so what? who even cares? i sure don't.
― Kate (rushomancy), Wednesday, 18 September 2024 00:10 (one week ago) link
It's not a political album, but the opening track is not exactly giving right-wing talking points. "That badge is the mob/a big blue gang"
― The SoyBoy West Coast (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 18 September 2024 02:34 (one week ago) link