Grimes/Claire Boucher thread

the reason she gave for not releasing the David-era material was that it was too depressing and she didn't want to tour it

Oh sorry wrong link.
I meant this one were she discussed how to make/record music

https://web.archive.org/web/20150831081620/http://actuallygrimes.tumblr.com/post/44357081528/how-to-make-music-for-almost-free-u-should

re: depressing material, it sounds like visions sleep/food deprivation binge was a heavy time too..

can't begrudge her tendency towards lighter material with art angels

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2012/apr/28/grimes-visions-montreal

Hmmm might have to try that

Skeptical of any value added by providing finer sampling of her stylistic evolution via the release of 'tweener songs. more fun to embrace the myth of the artistic step function.

i need all the information

there's not enough

This fan edit of David might be the closest to a studio version we’ll get:

https://m.soundcloud.com/littlemonsteralejandro2/david-fanmade-studio

haha that tumblr post is fantastic

this wasn't bad though I like the tegan and sara original more

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sv1H85AxYiM

speaking of the shift from her "two styles" one could make a case that visions was the intermediary from the extremely depressive, haunting stuff she was releasing pre-visions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBJ-LPPcAqw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vulvMVhDqeU

i love this era of her music too. and the shadow or memory of this sound definitely enriches my appreciation for the aerodynamic sound of art angels. it emerged from the depths.

Easy to forget also the immense pressure of public/commercial/critical expectations after Visions. Remember the backlash against “Go”? Oy

https://clips.twitch.tv/OilyDistinctPistachioChocolateRain

Fuck

. https://t.co/2DJAbbveIh

— Grimes (@Grimezsz) February 15, 2018

i'm not allowed to say but there r people involved in my career who would rather destroy me than build something. indie music is more about egos than money. if u hurt someone's ego, they don't mind forgoing what you are potentially worth to them to take u down

— Grimes (@Grimezsz) February 15, 2018

what the fuck.

this would be at 4AD still?

Goddamn wtf

her twitter bio was 'makin beats nu album soon' yesterday and now it's just 'makin beats' too :/

This is really naive I guess, but I don’t understand why someone like grimes can’t just release music on bandcamp under a pay what you want model. Then just tour a bunch of sold out 10,000 capacity clubs? I suppose it’s proooobably a bit more complicated than that.

i imagine she's locked into a contract that prohibits that very thing

Why would they prevent her from releasing an album?

She pissed off someone at the label and is being punished for it. Typical record biz bullshit.

My guess is she had a 3 record contract with 4AD and wanted to move to a major and they’re not thrilled

can't she just do an album of acoustic van halen covers to see out her contract

She pissed off someone at the label and is being punished for it. Typical record biz bullshit.

― Moodles, Thursday, February 15, 2018 11:39 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

It’s insane that this is a semi-common occurence in the music industry. Isn’t Grimes the biggest star on 4AD’s roster?

The National and Tune-Yards have both had albums with bigger American numbers, but yeah, she's up there.

I don't know why I limited that to US sales, because The National's apparently big everywhere.

Art Angels charted surprisingly low for how popular she is on YouTube, she gets very large amounts of views for an indie act there

She’s a more culturally significant figure than anyone involved in those other acts though. For the 4AD brand she has to be valuable.

Yeah, I can't picture National fans tweeting at the label telling them to go fuck themselves either. https://twitter.com/search?q=4ad%20grimes&src=tyah

Grimes has some passionate fans. I imagine if the National were to deliver some bad news about an upcoming album, their fans would just keep clapping along regardless.

https://media.giphy.com/media/5zsb3iZx03pCRi8vSi/giphy.gif

Does 4AD have a history with coming into conflict w/ artists?

is there anything that makes people think it is her label specifically? maybe she is just fed up w an abusive industry as a whole

I mean the industry as a whole can't literally stop her from releasing music. Also she responded to someone who said it was because of "label/management reasons" with "no problems w management", so.

“Yeah but i’m solving it. i just have to take one last hit. it sucks, but i’d rather not make fans suffer thru more unexplained drama. theres some srsly fucked up and crazy shit going behind the scenes in my career this whole time i’ve never spoken of to protect myself legally.”

she tweeted and deleted this earlier. i know she had a bunch of problems with Arbutus, shame there seems to be something with 4AD now.

lol. I missed this one last night.

hahaha ha. don't commit crimes for grimes --- i can solve , been thru worse 💀💀

— Grimes (@Grimezsz) February 16, 2018

In a situation like this it's possible another label could buy her out of her contract.

I wonder if at this point in her career she'd prefer to be on a major or totally independent. You'd think the latter, but who knows?

this sucks for her. do think it might be worth paying attention to how many (or, cough, how few) of grimes' friends over the years still collaborate with her.

does it matter?

i think it does if the people in this thread are theorizing about blame and why this could be happening

smell what i smell? a thread that's about to get good

probably best not to open that can of worms with that one, since this is a thread she may have actually seen before.

let's speculate blindly about things we know nothing about

anyway i hope the issue is resolved whatever it may be, bc her next one is my most anticipated album.

she definitely comes off like someone who could be abrasive and wilful but she's an excellent artist and yeah basically whatever it takes for her to get the next album out

Lots of people go through different creative partnerships as a way of sparking inspiration and growing, I don't know why this by itself would be a sign of, well, what?

Her music is so good. I’m glad she doesn’t compromise.

The label blocking the release of her music is a crime against the public.

Treeship and Jordan otm