Grimes/Claire Boucher thread

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The problem I see about not dropping names or explaining what’s exactly happening but still inviting the fans to join the pity fest is that she has some rabid fans.
The moment she posted that she invites the misguided justice hammer of the internet to go attack every possible suspect to the point she then had to post again with the “don’t do crimes for grimes” and that the J Roc label and Jay Z were cool and to stop attacking them, just to end deleting it all. She should know better than to summon te blind wrath of the internet... she has received serious death threats herself back in 2016... that’s how crazy some of her fans are.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 17 February 2018 17:24 (six years ago) link

Missing some commas in there. Sorry.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 17 February 2018 17:27 (six years ago) link

Whooooooooooooo caaaaaaaaaaaares

― flappy bird, Saturday, February 17, 2018 12:16 PM (twenty-four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

But I like drama

― flappy bird, Saturday, February 17, 2018 12:16 PM (twenty-three minutes ago)

:D
i struggle with this too

i remember the corned beef of my childhood (Karl Malone), Saturday, 17 February 2018 17:43 (six years ago) link

Lol yes
Yea I don’t have a problem with it im kinda into it tbh, fuck whoever is fucking with her career, bombs away grimes

flappy bird, Saturday, 17 February 2018 17:49 (six years ago) link

Hey, that Claire Boucher has made some good albums, tell you whut.

he doesn't need to be racist about it though. (Austin), Saturday, 17 February 2018 18:26 (six years ago) link

she has received serious death threats herself back in 2016... that’s how crazy some of her fans are.

Would these people really be fans though, if they’de saying this?

treeship 2, Saturday, 17 February 2018 18:34 (six years ago) link

wait is she on roc nation or 4ad?

Van Horn Street, Saturday, 17 February 2018 19:32 (six years ago) link

Repped by roc nation, signed to 4AD

omar little, Saturday, 17 February 2018 19:33 (six years ago) link

Well, Chapman was a hardcore Lennon fan

✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 17 February 2018 19:35 (six years ago) link

My dream is a label run by Charli XCX, Carly, Grimes, Lorde for them just to release mixtapes of whatever ideas they have year in year out and tour together. Who's in?

Van Horn Street, Saturday, 17 February 2018 19:35 (six years ago) link

oh and Sky of course.

Van Horn Street, Saturday, 17 February 2018 19:36 (six years ago) link

why did you name five artists of wildly varying quality?

imago, Saturday, 17 February 2018 19:48 (six years ago) link

This isn’t specifically about her, but really fuck passive agressive comments on social networks, if she has a problem with someone tell it to his/her face or involve the lawyers. Everything else is a low shot.

― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, February 17, 2018 2:33 AM (twelve hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

hello, doctor, I'd like to report being crushed under an asteroid-sized boulder of irony

algorithm is a dancer (katherine), Saturday, 17 February 2018 20:05 (six years ago) link

why did you name five artists of wildly varying quality?

― imago, Sunday, February 18, 2018 8:48 AM (seventeen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

because grimes, "girl with slightly grating voice who bounces back and forth from rap/r&b hookwoman to doing pc music stuff", "queen of going from call me maybe to indie pop all the gays like" and "girl from posonby who had a record deal since 12 who got big by implying black people were shallow and materialistic social commentary about alienation and luxury and followed that album up with a bunch of moody piano pop that got 91 on metacritic because she was white" all fall along the same artistic axis by virtue of making """""art pop """"", apparently

and by being women

heliogabberlus, Saturday, 17 February 2018 20:19 (six years ago) link

hello, doctor, I'd like to report being crushed under an asteroid-sized boulder of irony

― algorithm is a dancer (katherine), Saturday, February 17, 2018 3:05 PM (twenty minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Idk if moka’s comment was passive aggressive really

treeship 2, Saturday, 17 February 2018 20:27 (six years ago) link

Also van horn street’s dream sounds awful. I just grimes to have artistic autonomy. I don’t really like those other artists much.

treeship 2, Saturday, 17 February 2018 20:28 (six years ago) link

Also I am not a public figure.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 17 February 2018 20:29 (six years ago) link

And wasn’t I supposed to be feisty? First time of being accused of being passive agressive in my life.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 17 February 2018 20:53 (six years ago) link

because grimes, "girl with slightly grating voice who bounces back and forth from rap/r&b hookwoman to doing pc music stuff", "queen of going from call me maybe to indie pop all the gays like" and "girl from posonby who had a record deal since 12 who got big by implying black people were shallow and materialistic social commentary about alienation and luxury and followed that album up with a bunch of moody piano pop that got 91 on metacritic because she was white" all fall along the same artistic axis by virtue of making """""art pop """"", apparently

and by being women

― heliogabberlus, samedi 17 février 2018 15:19 (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

very trenchant.

Van Horn Street, Saturday, 17 February 2018 22:10 (six years ago) link

Moka's great, leave her be

kolakube (Ross), Saturday, 17 February 2018 22:17 (six years ago) link

melodrama - it's competent, but doing a "serious" album after your three million selling debut doesn't make an auteur out of a ponsonby-bred trust funder

― heliogabberlus, Wednesday, January 31, 2018 12:36 PM

"girl from posonby who had a record deal since 12 who got big by implying black people were shallow and materialistic social commentary about alienation and luxury and followed that album up with a bunch of moody piano pop that got 91 on metacritic because she was white"

― heliogabberlus, Saturday, February 17, 2018 8:19 PM

Not to get all "they take the Gluepot now they coming for me" but c'mon, Lorde's dyed-in-the-wool Devonport.

etc, Saturday, 17 February 2018 22:25 (six years ago) link

now this is sniping i can get with

imago, Saturday, 17 February 2018 22:49 (six years ago) link

Not to get all "they take the Gluepot now they coming for me" but c'mon, Lorde's dyed-in-the-wool Devonport.

― etc, Sunday, February 18, 2018 11:25 AM (twenty-eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

huh, had some vague memory of hearing ponsonby had been where she grew up but mea culpa for not double-checking and realizing it was devonport

i mean i've never been up to auckland so the one suburb i did know for having its bourgeois reputation precede it seemed like a sensible enough fit with said factoid i'd read/imagined reading

heliogabberlus, Saturday, 17 February 2018 23:01 (six years ago) link

very important to determine to which social class a 21 year old female artist belongs to.

Van Horn Street, Saturday, 17 February 2018 23:27 (six years ago) link

damn put another shrimp on the barbie & let the beef cook

It's not delivery, it's Adorno! (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 17 February 2018 23:35 (six years ago) link

This is all great stuff

treeship 2, Saturday, 17 February 2018 23:42 (six years ago) link

she barely tweets and the majority of what she does post on social media is direct responses to fan questions on twitter and instagram, it's not her fault that websites will then take those statements and construct headlines and news stories around them regardless of whether or not they tell a complete or satisfying story about anything

i have been posting on the internet since i was a small child and i was still caught completely off-guard when i realized i had to be prepared for everything i posted to be read not just by the specific people i was talking to but to countless more people beyond that who might see it if some person or media entity decided to take it and show it to others without context or my involvement

i thought i was an expert, and i got pantsed by it. every day now i see people who thought they were experts getting pantsed by it. people who get paid to write about the news in the media every day who have a complete meltdown when one day their name turns up in the news.

it is extremely easy to sit around sniping from a distance at people who find themselves exposed thus about how they should be handling it but one day it might happen to you and i promise you will have no idea what you're doing

james brooks, Saturday, 17 February 2018 23:43 (six years ago) link

Classic website. Glad I spent my twenties here.

treeship 2, Saturday, 17 February 2018 23:43 (six years ago) link

Sry james that wasnt directed to u

treeship 2, Saturday, 17 February 2018 23:44 (six years ago) link

it's cool i'm sorry i interrupted your joke

james brooks, Saturday, 17 February 2018 23:53 (six years ago) link

It wasn’t really a joke. Not anyone’s fault here, I just need a better hobby than ilx. I’m sorry earlier I jumped in the nascent feud between katherine and moka — i like both of those posters.

treeship 2, Saturday, 17 February 2018 23:57 (six years ago) link

you should check out "slay the spire" on steam, it's available for both mac and pc and i find it to be very meditative and soothing

james brooks, Sunday, 18 February 2018 00:01 (six years ago) link

It wasn’t really a joke. Not anyone’s fault here, I just need a better hobby than ilx. I’m sorry earlier I jumped in the nascent feud between katherine and moka — i like both of those posters.

― treeship 2, Saturday, February 17, 2018 6:57 PM (four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I wasn't feuding with anyone just pointing out the inherent questionability of criticizing someone for complaining on the internet and not to their face, via complaining on the internet

also do you play ironclad or silent

algorithm is a dancer (katherine), Sunday, 18 February 2018 00:03 (six years ago) link

i can win at least half the time with silent but i'm really frustrated by my inability to get a good ironclad deck going

do you have any build tips?

james brooks, Sunday, 18 February 2018 00:05 (six years ago) link

You were feuding a lil bit but I don’t mind.

I wasn’t really criticizing Grimes I love her, I’d vote for her for president of the world. I was pointing out that public figures ideally need to filter this sort of things or give a fuller picture. Otherwise some rabid fans go and wage twitter wars from them and it doesn’t help their case.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Sunday, 18 February 2018 00:18 (six years ago) link

Either point the finger at who you want hanged by the internet or its better to not say anything, unless you don’t mind all those fans going around writing nasty tweets to people that have nothing to do with this beef like say, Jay Z.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Sunday, 18 February 2018 00:21 (six years ago) link

or you could shut up and not care so much about a public figure

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 18 February 2018 00:21 (six years ago) link

most consistent I've ever done is with barricade and body slam, preferably with entrench if you can find it. from there it's just a matter of actually getting barricade up

algorithm is a dancer (katherine), Sunday, 18 February 2018 00:22 (six years ago) link

xp: what alfred said

algorithm is a dancer (katherine), Sunday, 18 February 2018 00:23 (six years ago) link

Well go and tell that to the fans on twitter I don’t use it.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Sunday, 18 February 2018 00:28 (six years ago) link

lmao "nasty tweets" give me a fucking break. the fans will be fine

it's just such a weird thing to be so annoyed or upset by

flappy bird, Sunday, 18 February 2018 00:30 (six years ago) link

Well that and that her words have been taken out of context turned into clickbait headlines. There’s a reason she deleted them.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Sunday, 18 February 2018 00:35 (six years ago) link

Also Alfred and Katherine I can care however much I want to care about it, maybe you two should shut up and not care so much what a non public figure says.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Sunday, 18 February 2018 01:17 (six years ago) link

Or be crushed by some asteroid sized boulder of irony

✖✖✖ (Moka), Sunday, 18 February 2018 01:21 (six years ago) link

Is that agressive passive enough for you?

✖✖✖ (Moka), Sunday, 18 February 2018 01:21 (six years ago) link

kind of a bummer when all my favorite posters come together to yell at each other. Not sure why Grimes is such a flashpoint for this board. Lingering PTSD from the Realiti wars?

Moodles, Sunday, 18 February 2018 01:36 (six years ago) link

on a pretty regular basis i get very detailed emails from strangers about how they want to dismember me and every member of my family

sometimes my friends and family get the emails instead

sometimes the threats go to people i barely even know or haven't talked to in years, people who might not even know why strange people on the internet want to dismember me, who get really upset about the threats and forward them to me with heartfelt concern about whether or not i am safe and ok

i then copy and paste the threats into a very long years-old email thread so they can be sent to law enforcement contacts and added to a file

anyone who would seriously get super upset over a fan tweeting "leave grimes alone" or whatever is not prepared for what the world is turning into and i worry for them

anyway

i'm definitely going to try to go body slam/barricade on my next run, i have been struggling with not having enough block and i totally had not thought about how body slam could turn a block-focused deck into an offensive powerhouse. thanks!

james brooks, Sunday, 18 February 2018 02:17 (six years ago) link

https://goo.gl/images/Q21Vbj

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 18 February 2018 02:21 (six years ago) link

It’s not those fans I worry about it’s the death threats ones I worry about turning their obsessive love for her into a real threat for anyone managing her label.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Sunday, 18 February 2018 02:26 (six years ago) link

I’m sorry to hear that you’re dealing with that James.

I hope the death threats thing is just some kind of sick trend, or a symptom of society not having had time to establish the norms that will make life in the internet age bearable.

This can’t just be the way it is now.

treeship 2, Sunday, 18 February 2018 02:27 (six years ago) link


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