ILX Gonna Shine in My Backdoor Someday (new post-Fahey folk for ppl posting in Takoma/Tompkins Square threads Pt II)

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Voices and vocal approaches/styles are really personal. Pretty much every band that exists can be off limits to me if the voice doesn't connect. One case in point for me: Hiss Golden Messenger. His voice sits in a range and style that I cannot hang with no matter how good the writing/arrangements might be (which I have not explore that much due to the voice ....)

grandavis, Wednesday, 9 May 2018 00:24 (six years ago) link

vocals almost always ruin music like this for me. Because it is a music that (largely) treats the guitar like an orchestra, and is often about imaginative playing and (to some extent) virtuosity, imo there's not much place for singing. I mean, you wouldn't sing over Charlie Parker.

Paul Ponzi, Wednesday, 9 May 2018 01:08 (six years ago) link

well to be fair the House And Land LP is aiming for a much different vibe than her VDSQ solo record, jus tnot a vibe that works for me as grandavis says

sleeve, Wednesday, 9 May 2018 01:10 (six years ago) link

Seems to be the thread for Chris Forsyth, the new live EP is so good.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 16 May 2018 15:17 (six years ago) link

yeah it really rips. wasn't as keen on the album for some reason but it opens up live

global tetrahedron, Wednesday, 16 May 2018 15:19 (six years ago) link

I liked the album, but it did fall out of rotation faster than some of his others, the EP perked it back up for me. Love the Neil cover too. I'd love more Forsyth/Sunwatchers stuff.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 16 May 2018 15:23 (six years ago) link

digging this new 18-minute Elkhorn track (from forthcoming cassette on eiderdown): https://eiderdownrecords.bandcamp.com/album/lionfish

tylerw, Thursday, 17 May 2018 17:38 (six years ago) link

and yeah the new forsyth EP has some incredible jams ... not nuts about the neil young cover (band sounds good, haven't come around on Forsyth's vocals yet, especially on covers). but the "first 10 minutes of cocksucker blues" achieves liftoff in a major way.

tylerw, Thursday, 17 May 2018 17:40 (six years ago) link

https://wufeimusic.bandcamp.com/

EZ snappin pointed me in the direction of Wu Fei...really fucking amazing music

Wu Fei is a native of Beijing & a current Nashville resident, is a master of the guzheng, the ancient 21-string Chinese zither. She was trained as a Western classical composer, a vocalist, & plays beautifully in the guzheng's vernacular–a musical language which is at least 2,000 years old. She mixes Western & Chinese traditional sensibilities with a contemporary idiosyncratic, experimental dialect

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 17 May 2018 17:43 (six years ago) link

ooh looks good

tylerw, Thursday, 17 May 2018 17:54 (six years ago) link

Oh this is gorgeous thanks for passing on the tip!

It reminded me that I wanted to mention this album as well:

http://opiumhum.blogspot.com/2018/04/david-ming-yeuh-liang-chinese.html

Something about it resembles the same spirit as American primitive music.

Evan, Thursday, 17 May 2018 18:00 (six years ago) link

also, renowned and controversial post-Jansch/whatever scamp and miscreant Ryley Walker's highly anticipated Deafman Glance album is out today....

on first listen I think he's kind of come into his own on this one, it's not a big left turn or anything but - obv he was always very talented - but this seems less derivative and more modern in some way I can't do a really good job of articulating

band on this is really great and very subtle

feel a little 90s Thrill Jockey/Chitown postrock peeking in around the edges

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 18 May 2018 19:10 (six years ago) link

he IS in chicago!
sold out show tonight apparently

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 18 May 2018 19:16 (six years ago) link

who is in the band?
i just googled and bandcamp has no info

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 18 May 2018 19:17 (six years ago) link

on the new record? here's what the release says:

Cooper Crain (Bitchin’ Bajas, Cave) recorded and mixed the album, as well as adding his shimmering synths all over it. Ryley plays electric & acoustic guitars and was joined by long-time 6-string sparring partners, Brian J Sulpizio and Bill Mackay, who both play electric. LeRoy Bach also plays some electric guitar, whilst adding all piano and other keys. Andrew Scott Young and Matt Lux play bass – Andrew supplying some double-bass, both of them played electric. Drums / percussion are handled by Mikel Avery and Quin Kirchner. Topping off this list of notorious Chi-Town players is Nate Lepine, who added a lot of flute and a little saxophone too.

tylerw, Friday, 18 May 2018 19:19 (six years ago) link

nm -- i just looked them up and i recognize all those names! lol

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 18 May 2018 19:20 (six years ago) link

Cooper Crain (Bitchin’ Bajas, Cave) recorded and mixed the album

ok this makes a lot of sense

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 18 May 2018 19:21 (six years ago) link

he mentioned touch and go and don caballero to my roommate

global tetrahedron, Friday, 18 May 2018 19:22 (six years ago) link

actually a few in there i don't recognize -- andrew scott young? leroy bach? otherwise those names are all v familiar to me as a local

last time i saw RW in the wild was at a BBs show at the same venue where he is playing tonight. they are an insular bunch.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 18 May 2018 19:23 (six years ago) link

leroy bach used to be in wilco

global tetrahedron, Friday, 18 May 2018 19:26 (six years ago) link

ha also five style a band i haven't thought about in ages

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 18 May 2018 19:27 (six years ago) link

Leroy Bach also played in Liz Phair's band in the early days - like the first band she pulled together to play shows.

Ryley's all in on '90s Chicago experimental rock, etc. No surprise it shows up in his music.

alpine static, Friday, 18 May 2018 19:32 (six years ago) link

that's interesting
did not know!

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 18 May 2018 19:33 (six years ago) link

i suppose i should listen to Deafman Glance. i liked Primrose Green a lot but couldn't get into the last one he did.

i know i have said this before, but again: dude is a top-shelf Twitter follow

alpine static, Friday, 18 May 2018 19:34 (six years ago) link

this is sounding dope to me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xK4ray1fD2I

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 18 May 2018 19:42 (six years ago) link

there was a recent plea from someone on twitter to write a book covering the chicago music scene 1990-200?
would read!!

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 18 May 2018 19:49 (six years ago) link

yeah i would read that too ...

tylerw, Friday, 18 May 2018 19:54 (six years ago) link

it's still pretty awesome here tbh
i know there is no fingerpicking involved but don't snooze on mind over mirrors. they are truly spectacular in the expanded lineup and i would not miss the chance to see them over and over.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 18 May 2018 19:59 (six years ago) link

it's funny, that new MOM record hasn't really clicked with me (loved the previous one) ... i should give it another go.

tylerw, Friday, 18 May 2018 20:00 (six years ago) link

have you seen them live?
this video is also excellent
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xp7D9TlG2u4

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 18 May 2018 20:04 (six years ago) link

there was a recent plea from someone on twitter to write a book covering the chicago music scene 1990-200?
would read!!

― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, May 18, 2018 2:49 PM (fourteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah no doubt there are so many useless music books written every year and a history of chicago post-punk/rock etc etc should really exist

feel like there's a high correlation between post faheyism and old skool post rock fandom

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 18 May 2018 20:05 (six years ago) link

not just post rock but the free improv/jazz scene was on fire at that time too
the community spirit was strong
and most of those people are still around
there are some great interviews waiting to be done

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 18 May 2018 20:07 (six years ago) link

yeah totally vandermark 5 etc etc

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 18 May 2018 20:11 (six years ago) link

Oh man, Nate Lepine! I love that dude. Used to play in Manishevitz, which was a great band.

grandavis, Friday, 18 May 2018 20:55 (six years ago) link

did they sound kinda like early Roxy Music?

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 18 May 2018 21:40 (six years ago) link

Hey UMS, been outta here for a bit, but yeah, early Roxy Music was definitely an influence and aspect of the sound (they did a really nice cover of 2HB on an E.P. and live actually). They were very Chicago in that the band was made up of many jazz/improv players moonlighting in the band, my favorite being the great Fred Lonberg-Holm. In my opinion Manishevitz was extremely underrated. Also, the album "Rollover" has a lot of nice acoustic guitar playing on it, a really great expansive folk record.

grandavis, Sunday, 20 May 2018 13:33 (six years ago) link

2 nights of snockgrass in greenfield this september.

https://www.facebook.com/events/1687493161358348/

scott seward, Monday, 21 May 2018 17:46 (six years ago) link

nice

I just made a totally obsessive 5-disc compilation of unreleased Hurley tracks from live tapes, mostly covers. Not quite done yet but hit me up for mp3 versions of the first two.

sleeve, Monday, 21 May 2018 17:47 (six years ago) link

ooh that sounds awesome

tylerw, Monday, 21 May 2018 17:50 (six years ago) link

you know how to find me :)

sleeve, Monday, 21 May 2018 17:51 (six years ago) link

co-presentation time for the blogs

sleeve, Monday, 21 May 2018 17:51 (six years ago) link

love that the bar in town is having a wolf eyes residency and a hurley residency.

scott seward, Monday, 21 May 2018 17:55 (six years ago) link

very good stuff

global tetrahedron, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 01:34 (six years ago) link

https://charlieschmidt.bandcamp.com/album/sheep-in-wolfs-clothing

new charlie schmidt, he was the closest i'll ever get to seeing fahey at 1000 roses. glenn jones says this version of 'when the springtime comes again' is possibly the finest ever!

global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 29 May 2018 19:49 (six years ago) link

what i like about schmidt is he kinda picks up where fahey left off in the late 80s, constantly refining/re-contextualizing/reinterpreting his old classics

global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 29 May 2018 20:14 (six years ago) link

Never heard of Charlie Schmidt. Has he come up here before?

grandavis, Wednesday, 30 May 2018 14:13 (six years ago) link

I hadn't heard of him prior to the festival.

Evan, Wednesday, 30 May 2018 14:16 (six years ago) link

he was under the direct tutelage of fahey for a period- fahey actually used charlie schmidt recordings for his 'best of' vol. 2. the remakes of 'stomping tonight' and john henry variations are both schmidt, and the song 'tuff' is a charlie schmidt original

global tetrahedron, Wednesday, 30 May 2018 14:19 (six years ago) link

whaaat

sleeve, Wednesday, 30 May 2018 14:28 (six years ago) link


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