https://www.musicbusinessworldwide.com/did-tidal-falsify-streams-to-bulk-up-kanye-west-and-beyonce-numbers/
― niels, Wednesday, 9 May 2018 10:23 (six years ago) link
Record companies used to buy millions of lps to guarantee their success
Not much has changed
― Roswell (Ross), Wednesday, 9 May 2018 10:26 (six years ago) link
Well, now they're actively taking money from other artists to give their own.
― Frederik B, Wednesday, 9 May 2018 10:28 (six years ago) link
this is fraud, right?
― karl wallogina (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 9 May 2018 11:01 (six years ago) link
this is on top of them already giving "free albums" to all their subscribers? hah the music industry is such shit these days at least with radio payola people still bought albums.
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 9 May 2018 11:11 (six years ago) link
it is fraud, yes
hard to imagine how anyone could have thought they would get away with it - wonder if Jay Z authorized this...
― niels, Wednesday, 9 May 2018 12:12 (six years ago) link
He either knew or should have known. I think the more thorny question is how much Kanye and Beyoncé knew. If the figures are right, it should be hundreds of thousands of dollars that they've personally gotten, right?
― Frederik B, Wednesday, 9 May 2018 13:40 (six years ago) link
Another TIDAL subscriber, music critic Geir Rakvaag, supposedly played tracks from Kanye West’s The Life Of Pablo 96 times in a single day – with 54 plays in the middle of the night.
― Closed Beta (NotEnough), Wednesday, 9 May 2018 14:26 (six years ago) link
are you suggesting that there's some kind of... geirbot involved
― Mahogany Loggins (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 9 May 2018 14:27 (six years ago) link
― Closed Beta (NotEnough), 9. maj 2018 16:26 (eighteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Yeah, and he is supposed to have heard 27 songs at once at 2:00 and 27 at once at 5:00. It's obviously wrong.
― Frederik B, Wednesday, 9 May 2018 14:46 (six years ago) link
once they started counting streams in the charts i figured it was only a matter of time before they had the equivalent of World of Warcraft Chinese gold farms, like somewhere on the other side of the globe in the back of a cell phone repair shop is a wall of phones listening to albums 24/7.
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 9 May 2018 17:56 (six years ago) link
Pump and dump...https://www.cnbc.com/2017/01/23/sprint-to-buy-33-percent-stake-in-tidal.html
― Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 10 May 2018 00:33 (six years ago) link
(that was from 2017, but 33% of nothing...)
― Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 10 May 2018 00:34 (six years ago) link
wow@ that article. it's quite exciting!
― Heavy Messages (jed_), Thursday, 10 May 2018 01:00 (six years ago) link
I've been subscribing for a while now....the discovery/organization isn't even close to Spotify and the app can be a little janky.
However, using it with my good headphones and Dragonfly or streaming into a DAC on my home stereo, the sound quality is FAR better thank Spotify's highest tier, like not even close
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 13 February 2019 18:30 (five years ago) link
yeah the app is p awful
what’s Dragonfly?
― flopson, Wednesday, 13 February 2019 19:04 (five years ago) link
portable DAC
― say it with sausages (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 13 February 2019 19:07 (five years ago) link
app is getting slightly better...though now i basically keep spotify for listing in the car/headphones on the go....then use spotify to discover stuff and then listen to it on my nice headphones at work or at home on tidal
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 2 April 2019 14:29 (five years ago) link
I hate Tidal so much. They don’t differentiate between any 90s indie band vs any 2020s mumble-rapper who took the same name. Even a search for “trashcan sinatras” vs. “trash can sinatras” will get you wildly different results.
― john shopkins (naus), Saturday, 10 April 2021 07:05 (three years ago) link
treated myself to a new amp and speakers in the office. also got a free apple music subscription with my xbox.trying to figure out the best way to get the highest quality music through my system. options are xbox via optical, OSX to amp via bluetooth 5.0, OSX or iOS to amp via chromecast audio. apple music can't cast to the CCA via iOS or OSX. you can cast spotify but it's limited quality. was thinking maybe I should just drop spotify for tidal then I could at least cast their CD quality streams to the amp. why you can't cast apple music to CCA is beyond me...
― LaMDA barry-stanners (||||||||), Friday, 30 December 2022 22:06 (one year ago) link
They really need to sort out their cataloguing. Listening to an album by 70's folkie Charles Brown and the "more from this artist" tab has a bunch of albums by 50's R&B vocalist Charles Brown. Worse, earlier it presented me with a "songwriter mix" which thought the Peter Brown who wrote "Material Girl" was the same guy who wrote "Sunshine Of Your Love". Don't get me wrong, that would be awesome if true - but it is not.
― Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 13:11 (one year ago) link
Listening to an album by 70's folkie Charles Brown and the "more from this artist" tab has a bunch of albums by 50's R&B vocalist Charles Brown.Thought you were going to say it suggested Vince Guaraldi…
― degenerative AI (morrisp), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 14:57 (one year ago) link
My wife uses Tidal… their curated playlists are really goodThere’s a series called “Tracks & Traces,” for specific artists (lots of big names from various genres), full of songs that reflect both their “inspirations” and artists that they inspired.
― morrisp.fandom.com (morrisp), Sunday, 23 April 2023 21:26 (one year ago) link
Like just to pick a totally random example…https://i.imgur.io/F9BSTUI_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium
― morrisp.fandom.com (morrisp), Sunday, 23 April 2023 21:29 (one year ago) link
Hard not to be satisfied by selections like these
― morrisp.fandom.com (morrisp), Sunday, 23 April 2023 21:33 (one year ago) link
Anyone tried live sessions? Listening or streaming? I would love to hear other folks' sessions!
― Confessions of an Oatmeal Eater (I M Losted), Thursday, 27 April 2023 07:06 (one year ago) link
Loved Tidal until it started bugging out after never ever bugging out. Also it was downloading EVERY SONG I PLAYED (?!) Whether I wanted to or not.
Tried using offline, everything.
Phone was essentially telling me to delete the app it's fucked, but clearing the cache worked beautifully.
Just a heads up.
Also: "ban track" is really nice. Every service should have it. But why does not every track have this function?
― Confessions of an Oatmeal Eater (I M Losted), Tuesday, 30 May 2023 01:22 (one year ago) link
I use it on my laptop and the only thing I don't like is the way it creates a playlist based on the album I just finished listening to, and spews random songs at me until I get irritated and search up a different album.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 30 May 2023 01:28 (one year ago) link
Yeah their algorithms are pretty shit I guess they will continue to suck until they get more subscribers.
― Confessions of an Oatmeal Eater (I M Losted), Tuesday, 30 May 2023 01:39 (one year ago) link
Surely you can turn that off… try Settings, Disable autoplay or something
― Day 1 fan (morrisp), Tuesday, 30 May 2023 01:43 (one year ago) link
you can turn it off in exactly that way yes
tbh the ui doesn’t help
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 30 May 2023 01:45 (one year ago) link
The UI is pretty willful. I've been trying for months to get it not to launch automatically when I turn on my laptop, but it's just gonna do whatever the fuck it wants.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 30 May 2023 02:09 (one year ago) link
Were there ever any repercussions for the (former?) boss corruptly swiping other artists' streaming cash for himself and his wife? I'm guessing not.
― Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Tuesday, 30 May 2023 10:10 (one year ago) link
Weirdly, I've found the "radio" playlists to be better than the ones I had with Spotify. Spotify felt like it was doing stuff tailored for me personally, which meant I was often getting the same tracks, while with Tidal I keep getting different stuff, but still generally pretty good. The general "Discovery" playlist isn't as good as Spotify's though.
― silverfish, Tuesday, 30 May 2023 17:42 (one year ago) link
Oh yeah a while ago I was looking at my phone storage and somehow Tidal was taking up more space than existed on my previous phone, I ended up deleting and reinstalling it.
― JoeStork, Tuesday, 30 May 2023 19:15 (one year ago) link
Yeah, I'm staying with it because the sound quality is superior for the money, the royalty rate is better and there isn't all this podcast bullshit.
But I have had to uninstall a few times.
I have to remember how horrid Spotify was in its early years.
― Confessions of an Oatmeal Eater (I M Losted), Saturday, 3 June 2023 12:01 (one year ago) link
As for the quality of the radio...I just make all of my playlists on Spotify and then move them to Tidal.
Increasingly getting tips on joints from places like Mixcloud instead.
― Confessions of an Oatmeal Eater (I M Losted), Saturday, 3 June 2023 12:04 (one year ago) link
There’s a few things it needs to do then it’d be perfect. Search function is not great, no search by year, label etc. Doesn’t seem to be able to search others playlists, or even my own. Most annoyingly if you play an album I can’t add another album to play queue, only has a play next option.
Despite that going to stick with it for reasons IML gave.
― Dan Worsley, Saturday, 3 June 2023 13:13 (one year ago) link
I like the videos option too, though is a bit spotty in coverage with huge gaps in some artists. Hi R.E.M.
― Dan Worsley, Saturday, 3 June 2023 13:15 (one year ago) link
Desktop app, Mac OS. If I pause playback and don't come back to it within a few minutes, the app loses its place and playback goes back to the beginning of the track. BAD TIDAL. At least it doesn't go back to the beginning of the album I guess.
― that's when I reach for my copy of Revolver (WmC), Wednesday, 25 October 2023 15:32 (eleven months ago) link
just switched over from spotify. transferred over my playlists and realising that its japanese music selections are pretty limited. also every song title is romanised which I guess makes it easier for searching but is not great for people like me who have gotten used to recognising them by their japanese characters. not great for last.fm stats either.
but am gonna try to stick to it and hope it gets better. jpop took time to have a solid presence on spotify too in the beginning
― Roz, Monday, 22 January 2024 01:12 (eight months ago) link
I found that, too - either the catalog is more limited or Spotify's massive playlist count just makes stuff easier to find.
― Enjoy Nuoc Mam With Mr. Qualk (I M Losted), Tuesday, 23 January 2024 20:18 (eight months ago) link
nice:
https://www.techhive.com/article/2254350/tidal-combines-hifi-and-hifi-plus-plans.html
― Roz, Tuesday, 5 March 2024 02:09 (six months ago) link
I guess once that rolls out I'll give it a listen and see if I can tell the difference.
― Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Tuesday, 5 March 2024 02:20 (six months ago) link
Wow - I may ditch Amazon and get on a family plan with my wife’s Tidal account
― Hippie Ernie (morrisp), Tuesday, 5 March 2024 03:31 (six months ago) link
Nice little email to wake up to
― H.P, Tuesday, 5 March 2024 21:47 (six months ago) link
Less good news for DJs, the new surcharge for use with DJing software takes the price back up to the old Hifi-Plus tier.
― Siegbran, Wednesday, 6 March 2024 23:53 (six months ago) link
Can you save mixes if you use the Tidal DJ option?
― Dan Worsley, Thursday, 7 March 2024 21:19 (six months ago) link
Anyone know why many albums show up duplicate or multiple times (in the exact same version, not different "editions" or anything like that)?
― rendered nugatory (morrisp), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 17:02 (four months ago) link
US/UK/EU labels taking their cut?
― Claude Deb***y (naus), Wednesday, 5 June 2024 04:45 (three months ago) link