Grimes/Claire Boucher thread

As a private citizen it's one thing, as a defender of a private-transit profiteer...

― Simon H.

uh she’s still a private citizen(?)

― i’m still stanning (morrisp)

making public statements

Thank you

haha, she never said she was skeeved out by poor people, that was y’all putting words in her mouth!

Honestly I have zero investment in Grimes, who she dates, or what opinions she holds, but it’s absurd that she or anyone would be demonized for anything she said in that (quite mild) series of tweets

making public statements

And when you say something on Twitter you become an official representative of what exactly?

nothing. but criticism of a public statement in a public forum is fair game obv

I agree completely, but read Simon as implyig that being a “defender of a private-transit profiteer” made her something other than just an online person w/an opinion that you may or may not agree with (like any other)

ya you guys are conflating la and vancouver public transportation which are two incredibly different beasts

it's true the b-line is super crowded but she isn't suggesting musk's loop as a solution to that

the loop is a solution to la transit which has other problems

for starters, i've heard the loop is like a "personal car," meaning you ride by yourself. he's calling them pods and the loop will transport 16 people at a time

thing is you get limited surface (ground level) space to wait to get into that pod. so it might take 5 minutes to get to your destination, but waiting to get inside it takes like 5 times that

right now the 2-mile stretch will cover an affluent area of the westside down to, i guess by la standards, more of a middle-class neighbourhood

elon musk is trying to get around the city of los angeles doing an eir (environmental impact review) because building tunnels in such close proximity to fault lines require a lot of research and exact building procedures. this research alone takes 3-4 years, yet he's saying he can build the whole thing by late this year, and he says he can build miles and miles of tunnels soon without public money

the details on how he is going to build the thing are so incredibly vague, that people are questioning whether he even knows what he's doing

here is the video of the "info session" he had in la, which provided very little detail:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwX9G38vdCE

and another vague news report: http://abc7.com/traffic/elon-musk-holds-rare-town-hall-to-address-la-tunnel-concerns/3490021/

anyway, i guess we should take it to the musk thread

okay, i just saw the car, and it actually looks like a car, and it sits 16 people -- 21:00 in the video

Didn’t a reporter ask how much it would cost to get from Van Nuys to LAX, and Musk replied, “Like, a dollar.”?

fare is $1, as shown in the video, even from dtla to lax

but i mean, this is all conceptual stuff. he's footing the bill for the 2.7-mile loop under the 405

the details for that tunnel start at 28:00

this is now the dumbest thread on ilx

there must be a musk thread where you can criticize him and his stupid company

This is a truly insane thread

Anyway, I agree w/flopson that that tweet above is peak bad-Twitter, as it’s basically saying that the political trumps the personal.

― i’m still stanning (morrisp), Tuesday, May 22, 2018 11:17 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

It’s also bad bc it is incoherent. “As a victim of abuse I disagree with grimes politics of public transit”

https://imgur.com/gallery/vndnv

But why pay union dues & make next grimes album tidal exclusive for nothing?

It’s also bad bc it is incoherent. “As a victim of abuse I disagree with grimes politics of public transit”

― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday, May 23, 2018 1:19 AM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

oh good i was wondering why i reread that tweet like 30 fucking times

ok glad that we can agree that criticizing grimes' politics is in poor taste but functional illiteracy in the service of ripping to shreds a rando on twitter is appropriate.

that's definitely what i was saying

thread keeps going from strength to strength, great work team

so how about that upcoming grimes album

i'm looking forward to it

ditto!

I hear she's doing a sequel to 2112

this will be Grimes' Caress of Steel

Pardon a "chime in" but the internet's response to Grimes x Musk has boiled over in my kitchen and turned into calcified anger

Any "it is important for our faves to be non-problematic" narrative is completely idiotic and just masking bald-faced toxic-fan entitlement to Grimes' body-autonomy

She should be and is allowed to date whomever she pleases without it having any effect on her capacity to make and sell records and tickets

I hope she is having bomb sex and romantic dinners with her gross rich boyfriend and I can't wait for her new album

agreed; also i hope elon musk dies in a burning building

That doesn't make any poetic sense tho

He should either die in space or be hit by a bus

murdered by the Martian bus drivers’ union

the grimes body-autonomy defense strike force has logged on

cap'n save-a-capacity-to-sell-tickets reporting for duty

This thread is bonkers.

Lads.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTvanzhR6ok

this thread was the best of grimes, it was the worst of grimes

infinite love without fulfillment

come on guys if Bill Maher can date Ann Coulter, surely any hatchet can be buried at least long enough to have bomb sex

haha, she never said she was skeeved out by poor people, that was y’all putting words in her mouth!

I will give you ten guesses as to what "sketchy" is usually code for and the first nine don't count.

Pardon a "chime in" but the internet's response to Grimes x Musk has boiled over in my kitchen and turned into calcified anger

Any "it is important for our faves to be non-problematic" narrative is completely idiotic and just masking bald-faced toxic-fan entitlement to Grimes' body-autonomy

She should be and is allowed to date whomever she pleases without it having any effect on her capacity to make and sell records and tickets

I hope she is having bomb sex and romantic dinners with her gross rich boyfriend and I can't wait for her new album

― nevertheless, he stopped (flamboyant goon tie included), Wednesday, May 23, 2018 11:11 AM (forty-one minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Well it's one thing she is dating Elon Musk, which I'm cool with whatever floats her boats down the Mississippi river, but when she is actively defending union-busting and ripping into public transport she is fair game as any other artist.

It's not hard to imagine similar situations with similar reactions. For example, if the dude from the War on Drugs started defending the IDF's recent actions in Gaza, it would be very fair to criticize him on that. If a famous hip-hop artist started wearing a MAGA baseball cap, it would be very fair to criticize him on that... Now it's up to anyone to decide if that affects their views of Grimes and it's up to anyone to decide how they respond to the upcoming record and tour. So it follows that it's up to anyone to decide how they respond to an artist's problematic views or actions and the idea that their sales shouldn't be affected is kinda gross in general.

thread keeps going from strength to strength, great work team

― i am fast and full of teeth. i willl die in a barn fire (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, May 23, 2018 7:48 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

just wanna reiterate this folks

we rounded up a skilled team, brought our A game to drill down on core deliverables and put together actionable strategic staircase where the rubber meets the road

let's hear it for team infinity

David

I will give you ten guesses as to what "sketchy" is usually code for and the first nine don't count.

She said “it’s hella overcrowded, late, sketchy in most cities I’ve lived in” – you read “sketchy” as “full of poor people”?

true, she could have meant "brown people"

based on my experience of Americans talking about buses, yes

in los angeles, i've noticed people definitely using that line of argument

"sketchy" is absolutely a code word

ime

yeah her use of sketchy is sketchy to say the least

this is a very bad thread