so how about that upcoming grimes album
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 14:49 (six years ago) link
i'm looking forward to it
― nxd, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 14:50 (six years ago) link
ditto!
― carles danger maus (s.clover), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 14:57 (six years ago) link
I hear she's doing a sequel to 2112
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 14:58 (six years ago) link
this will be Grimes' Caress of Steel
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 15:06 (six years ago) link
Pardon a "chime in" but the internet's response to Grimes x Musk has boiled over in my kitchen and turned into calcified anger
Any "it is important for our faves to be non-problematic" narrative is completely idiotic and just masking bald-faced toxic-fan entitlement to Grimes' body-autonomy
She should be and is allowed to date whomever she pleases without it having any effect on her capacity to make and sell records and tickets
I hope she is having bomb sex and romantic dinners with her gross rich boyfriend and I can't wait for her new album
― nevertheless, he stopped (flamboyant goon tie included), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 15:11 (six years ago) link
agreed; also i hope elon musk dies in a burning building
― cr.ht (crüt), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 15:13 (six years ago) link
That doesn't make any poetic sense tho
He should either die in space or be hit by a bus
― nevertheless, he stopped (flamboyant goon tie included), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 15:17 (six years ago) link
murdered by the Martian bus drivers’ union
― Elonio Grimesci (wins), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 15:20 (six years ago) link
the grimes body-autonomy defense strike force has logged on
― carles danger maus (s.clover), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 15:22 (six years ago) link
cap'n save-a-capacity-to-sell-tickets reporting for duty
― carles danger maus (s.clover), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 15:23 (six years ago) link
This thread is bonkers.
― husked, tonal wails (irrational), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 15:36 (six years ago) link
Lads.
― Music is confidence (Ross), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 15:37 (six years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTvanzhR6ok
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 15:48 (six years ago) link
this thread was the best of grimes, it was the worst of grimes
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 15:53 (six years ago) link
infinite love without fulfillment
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 15:58 (six years ago) link
come on guys if Bill Maher can date Ann Coulter, surely any hatchet can be buried at least long enough to have bomb sex
― Paul Ponzi, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 15:58 (six years ago) link
haha, she never said she was skeeved out by poor people, that was y’all putting words in her mouth!I will give you ten guesses as to what "sketchy" is usually code for and the first nine don't count.
― THERE IS NO PHIL D. THERE IS ONLY LIZ (Phil D.), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 16:00 (six years ago) link
― nevertheless, he stopped (flamboyant goon tie included), Wednesday, May 23, 2018 11:11 AM (forty-one minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Well it's one thing she is dating Elon Musk, which I'm cool with whatever floats her boats down the Mississippi river, but when she is actively defending union-busting and ripping into public transport she is fair game as any other artist.
It's not hard to imagine similar situations with similar reactions. For example, if the dude from the War on Drugs started defending the IDF's recent actions in Gaza, it would be very fair to criticize him on that. If a famous hip-hop artist started wearing a MAGA baseball cap, it would be very fair to criticize him on that... Now it's up to anyone to decide if that affects their views of Grimes and it's up to anyone to decide how they respond to the upcoming record and tour. So it follows that it's up to anyone to decide how they respond to an artist's problematic views or actions and the idea that their sales shouldn't be affected is kinda gross in general.
― Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 16:05 (six years ago) link
thread keeps going from strength to strength, great work team
― i am fast and full of teeth. i willl die in a barn fire (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, May 23, 2018 7:48 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
just wanna reiterate this folks
we rounded up a skilled team, brought our A game to drill down on core deliverables and put together actionable strategic staircase where the rubber meets the road
let's hear it for team infinity
― F# A# (∞), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 16:07 (six years ago) link
David
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 16:09 (six years ago) link
I will give you ten guesses as to what "sketchy" is usually code for and the first nine don't count.
She said “it’s hella overcrowded, late, sketchy in most cities I’ve lived in” – you read “sketchy” as “full of poor people”?
― i’m still stanning (morrisp), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 16:30 (six years ago) link
true, she could have meant "brown people"
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 16:37 (six years ago) link
based on my experience of Americans talking about buses, yes
― we used to get our kicks reading surfing MAGAzines (sic), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 16:38 (six years ago) link
in los angeles, i've noticed people definitely using that line of argument
― F# A# (∞), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 16:38 (six years ago) link
"sketchy" is absolutely a code word
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 16:40 (six years ago) link
ime
yeah her use of sketchy is sketchy to say the least
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 16:41 (six years ago) link
this is a very bad thread
― gbx, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 16:41 (six years ago) link
xpostsif y'all say so... Her next line was "[I've] been violently assualted on public transit twice", so I assumed that was what she meant. Reasonable ppl can disagree on whether the solution to public transport's ills are weird space-age tunnel cars, but I'm sure we've all learned to be aware of our surroundings on the train.
― i’m still stanning (morrisp), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 16:46 (six years ago) link
can we go back to arguing about whether the realiti demo is better
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 16:51 (six years ago) link
(the demo of realiti is better at least than actual reality)
what exactly is Elon Musk’s solution to that age-old problem and how is it solved by undercutting public transport and forcing workers to operate in unsafe conditions?
― gyac, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 16:51 (six years ago) link
Musk's public transit proposals are idiotic and specifically designed to undermine other, better thought-out and better-funded efforts already underway
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 16:52 (six years ago) link
realiti still song of the decade, demo or not
― ufo, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 16:53 (six years ago) link
well, I prefer the album version.
― how's life, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 16:55 (six years ago) link
I wonder which version Elon prefers
― silverfish, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 16:59 (six years ago) link
I mean how is she not doing what Sean describes in her tweet
― Simon H., Tuesday, May 22, 2018 11:45 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
‘Speaking as someone who has been sexually assaulted and likes a Grimes song, public transit in Los Angeles is good’
― flopson, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 17:02 (six years ago) link
― gbx, Wednesday, May 23, 2018 12:41 PM (twenty-two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 17:04 (six years ago) link
― gyac, Wednesday, May 23, 2018 12:51 PM (twelve minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
Elon Musk
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 17:05 (six years ago) link
what exactly is Elon Musk’s solution to that age-old problem and how is it solved by undercutting public transport and forcing workers to operate in unsafe conditions?― gyac, Wednesday, May 23, 2018 9:51 AM (thirteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post PermalinkMusk's public transit proposals are idiotic and specifically designed to undermine other, better thought-out and better-funded efforts already underway― Οὖτις, Wednesday, May 23, 2018 9:52 AM (twelve minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― gyac, Wednesday, May 23, 2018 9:51 AM (thirteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, May 23, 2018 9:52 AM (twelve minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
See, this is so much better (honestly) than "this person I disagree with is arguing in bad faith and probably a bad person, to boot"
― i’m still stanning (morrisp), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 17:06 (six years ago) link
take discussion of elon musk's proposed ideas for the future of transportation here: Elon Musktake discussion of elon musk's proposed ideas for the future of transportation here: Elon Musktake discussion of elon musk's proposed ideas for the future of transportation here: Elon Musktake discussion of elon musk's proposed ideas for the future of transportation here: Elon Musktake discussion of elon musk's proposed ideas for the future of transportation here: Elon Musk
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 17:07 (six years ago) link
― flopson, Wednesday, May 23, 2018 1:02 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
the grimes song is about assault and also the way that she argues against public transit is to invoke assault, and the point of the tweet was to express that the author of the tweet had felt connected to grimes at first due to the resonance of the song but now feels horrified at the same sort of resonance being invoked in the service of attacking public transit.
how are people this bad at context and interpretation posting on a message board involves, ostensibly, the process of understanding artistic production
― carles danger maus (s.clover), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 17:07 (six years ago) link
i understand that. the tweet is only not a non sequitir after like 5 steps of bad-faith readings into what she said. rather than dignify it with a charitable close-reading i chose the rhetorical maneuver of demonstrating its incoherence by removing all implications derived by aspersions about her motives. how are people this bad at context and interpretation posting on a message board involves, ostensibly, the process of understanding artistic production
― flopson, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 17:17 (six years ago) link
"rather than admit i understood the tweet i decided to pretend i didn't and deliberately misread it as a 'rhetorical maneuver'"
wtffffff
― carles danger maus (s.clover), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 17:22 (six years ago) link
owning people online by deliberately acting like a moron, impressive rhetorical maneuver sparky
guys, guys, what if this thing was actually something else entirely? wouldn't that be dumb! zing!
― carles danger maus (s.clover), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 17:23 (six years ago) link
it was a dumb tweet come on
― marcos, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 17:30 (six years ago) link
grimes replyer: public transit is already safe and cheap
grimes: ive been assaulted twice on public transit, its very to get around LA without a car
left twitter guy: i, too, have been assaulted, and i like a song by grimes about assault. i am disappointed that [everything beyond this is from my imagination]
― flopson, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 17:30 (six years ago) link
fu for making me do the earnest version
― flopson, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 17:31 (six years ago) link