Grimes/Claire Boucher thread

what exactly is Elon Musk’s solution to that age-old problem and how is it solved by undercutting public transport and forcing workers to operate in unsafe conditions?

― gyac, Wednesday, May 23, 2018 9:51 AM (thirteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Musk's public transit proposals are idiotic and specifically designed to undermine other, better thought-out and better-funded efforts already underway

― Οὖτις, Wednesday, May 23, 2018 9:52 AM (twelve minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

See, this is so much better (honestly) than "this person I disagree with is arguing in bad faith and probably a bad person, to boot"

take discussion of elon musk's proposed ideas for the future of transportation here: Elon Musk
take discussion of elon musk's proposed ideas for the future of transportation here: Elon Musk
take discussion of elon musk's proposed ideas for the future of transportation here: Elon Musk
take discussion of elon musk's proposed ideas for the future of transportation here: Elon Musk
take discussion of elon musk's proposed ideas for the future of transportation here: Elon Musk

I mean how is she not doing what Sean describes in her tweet

― Simon H., Tuesday, May 22, 2018 11:45 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

‘Speaking as someone who has been sexually assaulted and likes a Grimes song, public transit in Los Angeles is good’

― flopson, Wednesday, May 23, 2018 1:02 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the grimes song is about assault and also the way that she argues against public transit is to invoke assault, and the point of the tweet was to express that the author of the tweet had felt connected to grimes at first due to the resonance of the song but now feels horrified at the same sort of resonance being invoked in the service of attacking public transit.

how are people this bad at context and interpretation posting on a message board involves, ostensibly, the process of understanding artistic production

i understand that. the tweet is only not a non sequitir after like 5 steps of bad-faith readings into what she said. rather than dignify it with a charitable close-reading i chose the rhetorical maneuver of demonstrating its incoherence by removing all implications derived by aspersions about her motives. how are people this bad at context and interpretation posting on a message board involves, ostensibly, the process of understanding artistic production

"rather than admit i understood the tweet i decided to pretend i didn't and deliberately misread it as a 'rhetorical maneuver'"

wtffffff

owning people online by deliberately acting like a moron, impressive rhetorical maneuver sparky

guys, guys, what if this thing was actually something else entirely? wouldn't that be dumb! zing!

it was a dumb tweet come on

grimes replyer: public transit is already safe and cheap

grimes: ive been assaulted twice on public transit, its very to get around LA without a car

left twitter guy: i, too, have been assaulted, and i like a song by grimes about assault. i am disappointed that [everything beyond this is from my imagination]

fu for making me do the earnest version

it's just.... so fucking stupid. this thread sux. twitter sux. who gives a fuck about any of this

i have heard the use of sketchy to mean "dangerous" as opposed to "there are poor people around." i've seen woman manhandled on public transit in L.A., i know women who don't like riding public transit as a result of similar experiences. it often happens late at night, drunk dudes coming back from partying, people trying to grab someone in a crowded space and then peace out at the next stop, people grabbing purses, whatever. i myself don't feel unsafe but i'm not the usual type of target.

Maria Sherman educates the car people

https://jalopnik.com/your-guide-to-grimes-and-elon-musk-the-most-bewilderin-1826229106

that article sums up the clusterfuck in this thread, but this:

releasing music from a slew of hyper-talented electro-pop musicians that would go on to define a certain ‘00s warehouse party, Montreal sound

uh, this is dumb

that warehouse party sound was happening in vancouver before it hit montreal

i know because i was there foolio!

uh, this is dumb

that warehouse party sound was happening in vancouver before it hit montreal

i know because i was there foolio!

― F# A# (∞), Wednesday, May 23, 2018 1:55 PM (four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

man and i thought us Montrealers were insecure about our standing in north america

vancouver is a very weird place.

i mean it's not something i bring up first, but it says so in the article so might as well mention it

it's called fact-checking bros

i'm from van, no shade intended

k cool

No matter what you say, I will claim it started in Calgary with Azeda Booth!

grimes really destroyed her entire brand in like 14 days. there's honestly something fundamentally impressive about that

— Nathan Bernhardt (@jonbernhardt) May 22, 2018

another bad tweet jfc

Well this guy isn't helping her much

The holier-than-thou hypocrisy of big media companies who lay claim to the truth, but publish only enough to sugarcoat the lie, is why the public no longer respects them https://t.co/Ay2DwCOMkr

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) May 23, 2018

kind of true tho, at least among one prob significant tranche of her fanbase. she joked about not wanting lessons in public marketing but she could prob get some extremely online friends to screen her tweets for her, like im not even that woke or on twitter that much but feel like i have a p good nose for what’s problematic on twitter, would’ve spotted this frainwreck from a mile away

xp to marcos

Nerds @ing grimes to mansplain that she shouldn’t be attracted to her bf are beyond embarrassing - BEYOND beyond embarrassing - but also like, ppl make fun of ppl’s dumb Twitter opinions all the time? That’s kinda what Twitter is? And grimes correct me if I’m wrong is a twitter musician? dgmw I think those wounded by this are deranged but pretty much any celeb gobshite talking up Elton musk would get at least some of this flak (although by no means the greater part of it obv, this is mostly about creepy overidentification going sour)

this thread is so gross

― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn)

also wtf happened to this thread

― flamenco drop (BradNelson)

this thread got very bad!!

― gbx

this thread has always sucked

― we æt so many shimripl (Whiney G. Weingarten)

what is even happening in this thread now

― akm

this thread rules!

― kurt schwitterz

this thread rules!

― kurt schwitterz

This thread is bonkers.

― husked, tonal wails (irrational)

this is a very bad thread

― gbx

it's just.... so fucking stupid. this thread sux. twitter sux. who gives a fuck about any of this

― marcos

xxp there are some Grimes fans who feel betrayed by all this for sure, but I always thought a big part of Grimes 'brand' was being the subject of memes and meta-humour by the Very Online, and the Musk thing just consolidates that if anything? (Musk is obviously also one of the significant 'characters' in Very Online memes and meta-humour which is why I think ppl are finding all of this so funny, like the divisions between funny tweets where and reality are breaking down?)

Soref otm it’s not grimes who misunderstands her brand here ...

Tho she does misunderstand twitter

Lmfao @ Elton Musk

Real talk I’ve long insisted on calling him elton musk, to the point that when I came up with my excellent sn I nearly published it as “eltonio” (which actually works a lot better) before I remembered that was based on the joke name I gave him & not his actual name

Her brand will survive she'll be fine.

the brands, the brands, won't somebody think of the brands!

I want someone to do a 2018 version of Guy Peellaert's Rock Dreams with ppl twitter is obsessed with: Grimes, Elon Musk, Jordan Peterson, the prison planet guy etc

https://i.redditmedia.com/uaC71R5gzfUuL6_8BUZITTx-BBBi1m_0JArNGC0H250.png

fuck. i tried doing that before. anyway Elton Musk says "So heavy I fell thru the earth" is about to come out. https://www.reddit.com/r/Grimes/comments/8li9pc/wanna_fall_through_the_earth/

this thread triggered Elton so much he's starting Pravda

She needs to release something soon so we can finally decide if Grimes is over.

she needs to release a demo, followed months later by a studio cut, then we can extend the thread by a thousand more posts.

if we're going to figure this out, we should continue to hype this entire mess to completely disproportionate levels so that the story starts to spill into the mainstream just as the new single lands

welcome to realiti!

tbf this is a good career move for her, generates controversy/attention, and sets her up for a big redemption act when they inevitably break up

(full disclosure I give no shits about her music/career and am only dimly aware of her/don't care)

Lads.

― Music is confidence (Ross), Wednesday, May 23, 2018 5:37 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Just heard Realiti demo and it reminded me how great it is... so that’s a free of sin pass for me. I’ll ignore her response tweets all is forgiven c, peace.

I don’t want him to turn her into a bond villain like him.

She's a 30yo, grown woman. She is well past the point of needing help being a shitty person. Why not just go full misogny and say she's been dickmatized?

somebody stop this thread

lmao at Slappy being mad that this thread isn't misogynist enough to get performatively angry about. "c'mon guys! i can defend grimes too! just, gimme something to work with here."

"you don't have to call her names or anything. i'd take some mild slut-shaming, or even body-shaming in a pinch. i'm jonesing real bad here."