I guess I don’t really care whether ppl like the same stuff I do (nothing I can do about it); though it is kind of a bummer when you mention liking something on here, and 3 or 4 ppl chime in, “Nah, that sucks.”
In those cases, I actually would like to know their reasons, so there’s at least basis for discussion...
― stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Friday, 7 September 2018 02:09 (six years ago) link
for me, music is social. i like music more when people of my acquaintance also like it - i'd say this has happened with the beths and previously with king. in light of that it's probably always going to be divisive when somebody goes out of their way to dissent from that.
― milkshake duck george bernard shaw (rushomancy), Friday, 7 September 2018 14:12 (six years ago) link
timely bump of the yves tumor thread - I've just listened to the album and am glad to report that it is nowt but trendy mithering, sounds like some third-rate mego producer trying to be king krule or something. next
― imago, Friday, 7 September 2018 17:23 (six years ago) link
I'd much rather hear that than mentioning liking something and zero people chime in -- at least it means it's getting discussion and getting heard
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Friday, 7 September 2018 17:26 (six years ago) link
exactly - I bet at least 3 ppl listened to The Beths on the strength of my opposition. perhaps those same ppl will now listen to Yves Tumor
― imago, Friday, 7 September 2018 17:28 (six years ago) link
i don't even know what a "mego producer" is. like those crappy giant '70s action figures?
i'd rather say nothing about a record that doesn't interest me than go out of my way to express my disinterest. i can't fathom why anyone would be interested in acclaimed albums i find to be only fair-to-middling.
― milkshake duck george bernard shaw (rushomancy), Friday, 7 September 2018 23:52 (six years ago) link
Agreed on principle, let’s just have this as the parquet courts hate thread tho plz
― Vapor waif (uptown churl), Saturday, 8 September 2018 00:43 (six years ago) link
I tried to turn the Parquet Courts thread into the Parquet Courts hate thread, but no one was biting :P
― stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Saturday, 8 September 2018 00:51 (six years ago) link
it's all been downhill since Light Up Gold
― sleeve, Saturday, 8 September 2018 00:52 (six years ago) link
Right??
― stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Saturday, 8 September 2018 01:13 (six years ago) link
this never stopped being the parquet courts hate thread!
― imago, Saturday, 8 September 2018 09:49 (six years ago) link
Though the upgraded version (which I am more likely to fall back on myself) is “you listen to this thing rather than that thing because you have dubious aesthetic predilections and/or you are part of hype circles and gatekeeper discourses which structurally advantage the reputation of this thing over that thing even though that thing is better.”
Which is related but not quite the same thing. It’s more of a “forgive them father, for they know what they do” brand of condescension.
― Tim F
usually in my case it's some version of "you only think W is good because you haven't really heard X Y Z"
― the late great, Saturday, 8 September 2018 17:45 (six years ago) link
sounds like some third-rate mego producer trying to be king krule or something
maybe i've heard too little king krule but the yves record doesn't sound like that at all to me
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Saturday, 8 September 2018 18:03 (six years ago) link
for one thing "honesty" is just excellent techno basically
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Saturday, 8 September 2018 18:04 (six years ago) link
it's got a lot of sides imo
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Saturday, 8 September 2018 18:08 (six years ago) link
I have no idea whats hyped unless the discogs price is suddenly very high but thats almost everything even the lads at Scope in Rhyl are in on it
and I dont really hear any of the really bad records until the end of the year when the lad Claus turns up with 77 of them but I never remember the names. The problem is I also dont remember the names of the ones I do like and my colour coding for records is in disarray and remembering the names of your records is for bureaucrats and local businessmen
― saer, Saturday, 8 September 2018 18:15 (six years ago) link
hey now
― the late great, Saturday, 8 September 2018 19:26 (six years ago) link
Not sure how I feel about Yves Tumor yet, but it definitely doesn't sound like King Krule
― guardians of the gums: i am tooth (voodoo chili), Saturday, 8 September 2018 19:41 (six years ago) link
― the late great
"W" is a great van der graaf generator b-side and is miles beyond anything page, squire, and white managed to fart out
― milkshake duck george bernard shaw (rushomancy), Saturday, 8 September 2018 20:51 (six years ago) link
i dont think the yves tumor/king krule comparison is totally off base, obviously they aren't very similar sonically but there's a similar enough atmosphere they both create that listening to the new yves tumor did make me think 'oh this is sort of like what king krule was going for except way way better'
― ufo, Sunday, 9 September 2018 02:46 (six years ago) link
yves record reminds me of chino amobihad a first listen to it this morning, i like it
― nxd, Tuesday, 11 September 2018 10:05 (six years ago) link
The atmosphere on the King Krule record is very laid back though, isn't it? A bit distant but content and slightly warm. On Yves Tumor, I find it full of emotional tension and slightly anxious. Very different IMO.
― ninthyoung, Tuesday, 11 September 2018 11:20 (six years ago) link
I have no idea what any of that is but you've just described a day out in the asda
― saer, Tuesday, 11 September 2018 11:37 (six years ago) link
“Lana Dull Rey”
About 66 results (0.97 seconds)
― growing up in publix (morrisp), Saturday, 22 September 2018 20:07 (six years ago) link
daughters record is real boring
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 12 November 2018 14:05 (six years ago) link
seriously! and rym is apeshit over it. made me listen to shellac at least
― imago, Monday, 12 November 2018 14:07 (six years ago) link
there's a couple of tracks near the end that are decent to good but sheesh it's just swans worship
― imago, Monday, 12 November 2018 14:08 (six years ago) link
record consistently described as wild and all over the place = pretty much just faintly industrial noise rock the whole way through
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 12 November 2018 14:42 (six years ago) link
the whole "droning/punishing yet dynamic" thing they're trying to do on this record reminds me of through silver in blood weirdly enough
i prefer neurosis
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 12 November 2018 14:49 (six years ago) link
That Prime Minister Of Doom album isnt awful but for what it is it is completely overhyped. Some tracks go on far too long with no development and dont even start with interesting Villalobos-style grooves to hold any attention, and the ones that are actually any good implode just as they get going.
― boxedjoy, Monday, 12 November 2018 14:51 (six years ago) link
i didn't rly get all the love for the dj healer record so wldn't be surprised if i felt the same abt this project
― lowercase (eric), Monday, 12 November 2018 14:58 (six years ago) link
traumprinz is always gonna be controversial i think but i also found the dj healer record too... empty to enjoy
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 12 November 2018 21:19 (six years ago) link
and i smoke a lot of weed
great, now i've relistened to it and i like it (at least i really like "we are going nowhere")
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 12 November 2018 22:25 (six years ago) link
that daughters record is fucking awful imo
― dub pilates (rushomancy), Monday, 12 November 2018 22:45 (six years ago) link
ah shit i think i love the traumprinz records
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 00:21 (six years ago) link
the Daughters album is pretty dull but of course rym would go this hard for this sort of Swans worship yeah. very confused to find out their guitarist was in Fang Island for a while, that's not a connection i would ever have expected
― ufo, Wednesday, 14 November 2018 02:06 (six years ago) link
that daughters thing is trash
― ||||||||, Wednesday, 14 November 2018 22:09 (six years ago) link
listening to the robyn album. if this boring bollocks wins the 2018 album poll it might be time to leave this place
― imago, Thursday, 6 December 2018 14:14 (five years ago) link
generally imago I find your tastes to be a good guide in reverse of what I might like, but in this case I agree with you. I liked some of her past work but this new album is boring.
― L'assie (Euler), Thursday, 6 December 2018 14:17 (five years ago) link
*puts Robyn album top of ballot paper*
― Matt DC, Thursday, 6 December 2018 14:19 (five years ago) link
:D
― imago, Thursday, 6 December 2018 14:22 (five years ago) link
ilx's manifest destiny as middlebrow critic retirement home fulfilled
― imago, Thursday, 6 December 2018 14:23 (five years ago) link
it flows really well and really seamlessly into its dancier pockets and expands the scope of her songwriting. it's also very easy to listen to. it's not for you dude
― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Thursday, 6 December 2018 14:27 (five years ago) link
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, November 13, 2018 5:21 PM (three weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this bore out: i do love them, dj healer slightly more than prime minister of doom
― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Thursday, 6 December 2018 14:28 (five years ago) link
ahhh i like imago even when he calls records which are obviously great boring shit
― dub pilates (rushomancy), Thursday, 6 December 2018 14:44 (five years ago) link
and likewise i am growing to tolerate all y'all's weird predilections ;) but this is the marketplace of ideas and i will not be stayed from expression, unless by the banhammer
― imago, Thursday, 6 December 2018 14:47 (five years ago) link
Fwiw I think it's boring as well and I'm deeply suspicious of the critical narrative around Robyn at this stage, and there's like four songs off that 2005 album I still like.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 6 December 2018 14:55 (five years ago) link
It really drifted by me as well, but her previous work benefits from its inescapability. I'm sure I'll be crushed into submission in time
― flamboyant goon tie included, Thursday, 6 December 2018 14:55 (five years ago) link
she's had a few great singles but her previous albums were so inconsistent - this one's by far her best. can understand how some could be bored by it but i'm certainly much less confused by all the acclaim than i was in 2010
― ufo, Thursday, 6 December 2018 14:59 (five years ago) link