thread to dis hyped releases that you don't get/don't like/wanna complain about

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I guess I don’t really care whether ppl like the same stuff I do (nothing I can do about it); though it is kind of a bummer when you mention liking something on here, and 3 or 4 ppl chime in, “Nah, that sucks.”

In those cases, I actually would like to know their reasons, so there’s at least basis for discussion...

stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Friday, 7 September 2018 02:09 (six years ago) link

for me, music is social. i like music more when people of my acquaintance also like it - i'd say this has happened with the beths and previously with king. in light of that it's probably always going to be divisive when somebody goes out of their way to dissent from that.

milkshake duck george bernard shaw (rushomancy), Friday, 7 September 2018 14:12 (six years ago) link

timely bump of the yves tumor thread - I've just listened to the album and am glad to report that it is nowt but trendy mithering, sounds like some third-rate mego producer trying to be king krule or something. next

imago, Friday, 7 September 2018 17:23 (six years ago) link

I guess I don’t really care whether ppl like the same stuff I do (nothing I can do about it); though it is kind of a bummer when you mention liking something on here, and 3 or 4 ppl chime in, “Nah, that sucks.”

I'd much rather hear that than mentioning liking something and zero people chime in -- at least it means it's getting discussion and getting heard

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Friday, 7 September 2018 17:26 (six years ago) link

exactly - I bet at least 3 ppl listened to The Beths on the strength of my opposition. perhaps those same ppl will now listen to Yves Tumor

imago, Friday, 7 September 2018 17:28 (six years ago) link

i don't even know what a "mego producer" is. like those crappy giant '70s action figures?

i'd rather say nothing about a record that doesn't interest me than go out of my way to express my disinterest. i can't fathom why anyone would be interested in acclaimed albums i find to be only fair-to-middling.

milkshake duck george bernard shaw (rushomancy), Friday, 7 September 2018 23:52 (six years ago) link

Agreed on principle, let’s just have this as the parquet courts hate thread tho plz

Vapor waif (uptown churl), Saturday, 8 September 2018 00:43 (six years ago) link

I tried to turn the Parquet Courts thread into the Parquet Courts hate thread, but no one was biting :P

stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Saturday, 8 September 2018 00:51 (six years ago) link

it's all been downhill since Light Up Gold

sleeve, Saturday, 8 September 2018 00:52 (six years ago) link

Right??

stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Saturday, 8 September 2018 01:13 (six years ago) link

this never stopped being the parquet courts hate thread!

imago, Saturday, 8 September 2018 09:49 (six years ago) link

Though the upgraded version (which I am more likely to fall back on myself) is “you listen to this thing rather than that thing because you have dubious aesthetic predilections and/or you are part of hype circles and gatekeeper discourses which structurally advantage the reputation of this thing over that thing even though that thing is better.”

Which is related but not quite the same thing. It’s more of a “forgive them father, for they know what they do” brand of condescension.

― Tim F

usually in my case it's some version of "you only think W is good because you haven't really heard X Y Z"

the late great, Saturday, 8 September 2018 17:45 (six years ago) link

sounds like some third-rate mego producer trying to be king krule or something

maybe i've heard too little king krule but the yves record doesn't sound like that at all to me

princess of hell (BradNelson), Saturday, 8 September 2018 18:03 (six years ago) link

for one thing "honesty" is just excellent techno basically

princess of hell (BradNelson), Saturday, 8 September 2018 18:04 (six years ago) link

it's got a lot of sides imo

princess of hell (BradNelson), Saturday, 8 September 2018 18:08 (six years ago) link

I have no idea whats hyped unless the discogs price is suddenly very high but thats almost everything even the lads at Scope in Rhyl are in on it

and I dont really hear any of the really bad records until the end of the year when the lad Claus turns up with 77 of them but I never remember the names. The problem is I also dont remember the names of the ones I do like and my colour coding for records is in disarray and remembering the names of your records is for bureaucrats and local businessmen

saer, Saturday, 8 September 2018 18:15 (six years ago) link

hey now

the late great, Saturday, 8 September 2018 19:26 (six years ago) link

Not sure how I feel about Yves Tumor yet, but it definitely doesn't sound like King Krule

guardians of the gums: i am tooth (voodoo chili), Saturday, 8 September 2018 19:41 (six years ago) link

usually in my case it's some version of "you only think W is good because you haven't really heard X Y Z"

― the late great

"W" is a great van der graaf generator b-side and is miles beyond anything page, squire, and white managed to fart out

milkshake duck george bernard shaw (rushomancy), Saturday, 8 September 2018 20:51 (six years ago) link

i dont think the yves tumor/king krule comparison is totally off base, obviously they aren't very similar sonically but there's a similar enough atmosphere they both create that listening to the new yves tumor did make me think 'oh this is sort of like what king krule was going for except way way better'

ufo, Sunday, 9 September 2018 02:46 (six years ago) link

yves record reminds me of chino amobi
had a first listen to it this morning, i like it

nxd, Tuesday, 11 September 2018 10:05 (six years ago) link

The atmosphere on the King Krule record is very laid back though, isn't it? A bit distant but content and slightly warm. On Yves Tumor, I find it full of emotional tension and slightly anxious. Very different IMO.

ninthyoung, Tuesday, 11 September 2018 11:20 (six years ago) link

I have no idea what any of that is but you've just described a day out in the asda

saer, Tuesday, 11 September 2018 11:37 (six years ago) link

“Lana Dull Rey”

About 66 results (0.97 seconds)

growing up in publix (morrisp), Saturday, 22 September 2018 20:07 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

daughters record is real boring

princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 12 November 2018 14:05 (six years ago) link

seriously! and rym is apeshit over it. made me listen to shellac at least

imago, Monday, 12 November 2018 14:07 (six years ago) link

there's a couple of tracks near the end that are decent to good but sheesh it's just swans worship

imago, Monday, 12 November 2018 14:08 (six years ago) link

record consistently described as wild and all over the place = pretty much just faintly industrial noise rock the whole way through

princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 12 November 2018 14:42 (six years ago) link

the whole "droning/punishing yet dynamic" thing they're trying to do on this record reminds me of through silver in blood weirdly enough

i prefer neurosis

princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 12 November 2018 14:49 (six years ago) link

That Prime Minister Of Doom album isnt awful but for what it is it is completely overhyped. Some tracks go on far too long with no development and dont even start with interesting Villalobos-style grooves to hold any attention, and the ones that are actually any good implode just as they get going.

boxedjoy, Monday, 12 November 2018 14:51 (six years ago) link

i didn't rly get all the love for the dj healer record so wldn't be surprised if i felt the same abt this project

lowercase (eric), Monday, 12 November 2018 14:58 (six years ago) link

traumprinz is always gonna be controversial i think but i also found the dj healer record too... empty to enjoy

princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 12 November 2018 21:19 (six years ago) link

and i smoke a lot of weed

princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 12 November 2018 21:19 (six years ago) link

great, now i've relistened to it and i like it (at least i really like "we are going nowhere")

princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 12 November 2018 22:25 (six years ago) link

that daughters record is fucking awful imo

dub pilates (rushomancy), Monday, 12 November 2018 22:45 (six years ago) link

ah shit i think i love the traumprinz records

princess of hell (BradNelson), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 00:21 (six years ago) link

the Daughters album is pretty dull but of course rym would go this hard for this sort of Swans worship yeah. very confused to find out their guitarist was in Fang Island for a while, that's not a connection i would ever have expected

ufo, Wednesday, 14 November 2018 02:06 (six years ago) link

that daughters thing is trash

||||||||, Wednesday, 14 November 2018 22:09 (six years ago) link

three weeks pass...

listening to the robyn album. if this boring bollocks wins the 2018 album poll it might be time to leave this place

imago, Thursday, 6 December 2018 14:14 (five years ago) link

generally imago I find your tastes to be a good guide in reverse of what I might like, but in this case I agree with you. I liked some of her past work but this new album is boring.

L'assie (Euler), Thursday, 6 December 2018 14:17 (five years ago) link

*puts Robyn album top of ballot paper*

Matt DC, Thursday, 6 December 2018 14:19 (five years ago) link

:D

imago, Thursday, 6 December 2018 14:22 (five years ago) link

ilx's manifest destiny as middlebrow critic retirement home fulfilled

imago, Thursday, 6 December 2018 14:23 (five years ago) link

it flows really well and really seamlessly into its dancier pockets and expands the scope of her songwriting. it's also very easy to listen to. it's not for you dude

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Thursday, 6 December 2018 14:27 (five years ago) link

ah shit i think i love the traumprinz records

― princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, November 13, 2018 5:21 PM (three weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this bore out: i do love them, dj healer slightly more than prime minister of doom

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Thursday, 6 December 2018 14:28 (five years ago) link

ahhh i like imago even when he calls records which are obviously great boring shit

dub pilates (rushomancy), Thursday, 6 December 2018 14:44 (five years ago) link

and likewise i am growing to tolerate all y'all's weird predilections ;) but this is the marketplace of ideas and i will not be stayed from expression, unless by the banhammer

imago, Thursday, 6 December 2018 14:47 (five years ago) link

Fwiw I think it's boring as well and I'm deeply suspicious of the critical narrative around Robyn at this stage, and there's like four songs off that 2005 album I still like.

Matt DC, Thursday, 6 December 2018 14:55 (five years ago) link

It really drifted by me as well, but her previous work benefits from its inescapability. I'm sure I'll be crushed into submission in time

flamboyant goon tie included, Thursday, 6 December 2018 14:55 (five years ago) link

she's had a few great singles but her previous albums were so inconsistent - this one's by far her best. can understand how some could be bored by it but i'm certainly much less confused by all the acclaim than i was in 2010

ufo, Thursday, 6 December 2018 14:59 (five years ago) link


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