ILX Gonna Shine in My Backdoor Someday (new post-Fahey folk for ppl posting in Takoma/Tompkins Square threads Pt II)

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Is Matt Valentine actually stoned all the time, or has he just perfected sounding that way?

grandavis, Friday, 7 September 2018 19:46 (six years ago) link

hahaha I believe the former

sleeve, Friday, 7 September 2018 19:47 (six years ago) link

I mean it isn't a judgment, just an observation

grandavis, Friday, 7 September 2018 20:09 (six years ago) link

had a lame meeting for the past 2 hours ... had to miss baird and wet tuna booooooo

tylerw, Friday, 7 September 2018 20:37 (six years ago) link

haha yeah they were really good on this never really checked them out before

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 7 September 2018 20:42 (six years ago) link

discovered Ignatz today and it was just what i needed. Specifically the LP "I Live in a Utopia" but I'm deffo checking out others

rip van wanko, Friday, 21 September 2018 19:53 (six years ago) link

oh yeah that's some good shit, I got to see him on that 2008 Terrastock tour

sleeve, Friday, 21 September 2018 20:00 (six years ago) link

three weeks pass...

ok so it's definitely not exclusively guitar music, but this is where tashi dorji fans might gather right?

last night i went to the record release show for Kuzu and wowee zowee did they rip. recommended if you like powerhouse supergroups like rangda but think maybe they have gotten a bit dull
https://rempisdorjidamon.bandcamp.com

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Sunday, 14 October 2018 14:25 (six years ago) link

also they are still on tour, catch them if they are in your city!

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Sunday, 14 October 2018 14:33 (six years ago) link

thanks for the reminder!

sleeve, Sunday, 14 October 2018 15:15 (six years ago) link

Awesome, was not aware of this, love Dori

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 14 October 2018 23:10 (six years ago) link

this is great not sure if it's been posted before

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9y0URyk9R0

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 20:50 (six years ago) link

nice.
going to see tashi dorji at naropa university in boulder this weekend! :D

tylerw, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 21:33 (six years ago) link

with Kuzu? they are seriously the best

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 21:40 (six years ago) link

i think he's just playing solo? but I'm not sure. it's free! everyone should come out to boulder for it, I've got a guest room.

tylerw, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 22:07 (six years ago) link

psyched to see this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=5&v=bNRXzmiCQ0I

tylerw, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 22:33 (six years ago) link

is that being released somewhere?

Paul Ponzi, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 22:48 (six years ago) link

i'm not sure! a friend of mine saw some of this footage at a festival a little while ago, so it all exists in some kind of presentable form ...

tylerw, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 22:55 (six years ago) link

From what I could follow it seems like there was an Indiegogo for putting together a documentary about it/about the group of people that put it on/plus selected footage from the fest. It seems somehow related to Fat Possum but I’m not 100% sure?
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-blues-society-a-documentary-film#/

There is also this other narrative that I remember coming from Gene Rosenthal where he apparently had a TV broadcast crew out there and filmed the entire thing—but is either apprehensive about releasing it, or wants to release it but is holding it back for some reason. I’m not sure what the story was but it always came across as slight bragging about owning the footage but not willing to confirm that the project will finish anytime soon.

Not sure if there’s been further talk from Gene because a couple months after going to 1000 Rose, I eventually unfriended or unfollowed him so I didn’t have to keep seeing all that toxic-talk happening almost daily, lol. It was nice for a while just for the novel wtf factor but… I don’t know, it’s too much.

Neal Cassady, Friday, 19 October 2018 14:31 (six years ago) link

haha yeah I mean I knew of Adelphi but my first and only impression of him was when he got booted for being such a childish dickhead during the roundtable discussion at 1000 Rose so yeah I don't really get what his deal is

I really actually fucking hate that whole old school collector mentality where it's like they feel like they own the fucking music because they have all these artifacts and shit they hoard

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 19 October 2018 15:35 (six years ago) link

anyone read that White Tears book from last year? I didn't think it was particularly great, but it did deal with some of that overall mentality.

tylerw, Friday, 19 October 2018 15:42 (six years ago) link

I really actually fucking hate that whole old school collector mentality where it's like they feel like they own the fucking music because they have all these artifacts and shit they hoard
seriously this behavior is unbecoming at best and not to be allowed when it's anything like the loud verbal abuse that was described upthread at that festival. these people are probably also total misogynists? just a guess?

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 19 October 2018 16:47 (six years ago) link

maybe some are merely partial misogynists

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 19 October 2018 16:47 (six years ago) link

I’m not sure what the story was but it always came across as slight bragging about owning the footage but not willing to confirm that the project will finish anytime soon.
attention needy too? shocking!
he releases it and no one tolerates him anymore

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 19 October 2018 16:49 (six years ago) link

yeah it think it's a mix of elitism, misogyny and fundamentally being super weird & wound-up, esp because they'd actually done a good job of getting a diverse panel and after one of the women asked him to stop at least glenn jones had him kicked out and removed from the room....coley said they'd actually intended to have an open mic for audience questions but pulled it at the last minute because they knew he would get up there and filibuster whatever weird ideas he has about "real" american primitive

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 19 October 2018 17:13 (six years ago) link

yuck
create a schism and leave that guy behind imo
again, glenn jones super otm

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 19 October 2018 17:16 (six years ago) link

any relation to Josh?

sleeve, Friday, 19 October 2018 17:32 (six years ago) link

nah i think the last names are just a coincidence

josh rosenthal i think was major label record industry dude before he left to do tompkins

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 19 October 2018 17:41 (six years ago) link

By the time the day of the panel had arrived he was going with the intention to pick a fight for sure. The signs were pre-written and his wife was recording with her phone behind him.

Evan, Friday, 19 October 2018 17:42 (six years ago) link

what a weirdo

tylerw, Friday, 19 October 2018 17:44 (six years ago) link

i remember he had an assortment of signs:"OPINION" "BULLSHIT" and "CONTEMPORARY GUITAR" (which I guess he thinks is what American Primitive should be called and held up every time the term was brought up)

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 19 October 2018 17:49 (six years ago) link

honestly, it was shitty but MAN that was a memorable round table...seeing mild mannered glenn jones go beast mode was too good

and he got kicked out fairly early so there actually was a really good discussion that happened

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 19 October 2018 17:50 (six years ago) link

For sure. I also remember "REWRITING HISTORY" or something. He probably thought he was doing the audience a big favor filtering all of the comments by the panel, you know so we wouldn't be mislead by BULLSHIT or whatnot.

Evan, Friday, 19 October 2018 17:56 (six years ago) link

Is there footage of this? Surely someone recorded it. I'd be fine with watching it post-Rosenthal ousting, even. It seems like after that fest, everyone I knew who is into this stuff was talking more about the panel than anyone who actually played the festival

Paul Ponzi, Friday, 19 October 2018 20:10 (six years ago) link

there was video being shot no idea if or when it will be released

musically the festival was amazing, so many highlights, esp nathan bowles, marisa anderson, bachman, george stavis, pretty much everyone was good to great

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 19 October 2018 20:13 (six years ago) link

Maybe a weird thing to say, but it is pretty fitting that a festival set up to honor Fahey's legacy (amongst other things) involved some bonkers drama and contentiousness. I mean, the man had many layers, and that was certainly one.

Still sorry I couldn't be up there for the whole thing.

grandavis, Monday, 22 October 2018 13:50 (six years ago) link

Paul, there are audio recordings (and video of certain performances) of the whole fest that are available—if I send you a link via the ILX email message system is it going to hit the right inbox? Let me know if you have another way I should reach out? Not sure if someone has already sent this link over to you but there is an MP3 of the panel housed inside the folders.

Davis, I for real tried to find you at the closing performances @ the Rhizome, like going up to a couple people and asked “Sorry, is your name Davis?”… lol, I headed out around 12AM or 1AM because I had a flight out at 5AM. We will meet one day though, for sure!

Neal Cassady, Monday, 22 October 2018 16:28 (six years ago) link

Aww man, sorry to hear that! I was definitely at Rhizome too! Got to meet UMS and Global but mostly was inside checking the performances. I was eager for music as I had missed almost all of it, but I imagine everyone else was burned out and just looking to hang. So yeah, sorry to miss you, but maybe next time!

grandavis, Monday, 22 October 2018 17:32 (six years ago) link

xp Thanks, Neal! A friend sent me a Dropbox link to what I assumed were audio recordings, but I hadn't had a chance to look until now - got 'em! Just photos of the panel though, no audio or video. Oh well! Looking forward to diving into some of these sets...

Paul Ponzi, Monday, 22 October 2018 17:48 (six years ago) link

https://pitchfork.com/news/steve-gunn-announces-new-album-and-tour-shares-song-listen/

dig this song, though steve has probably outgrown being considered part of this "scene" but hey when yr a jet yr a jet. cool supporting cast!

The Unseen In Between was produced by James Elkington, and features contributions from Bob Dylan’s musical director Tony Garnier (bass), Meg Baird (vocals), and others.

Greta Van Fleek (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 24 October 2018 19:09 (six years ago) link

tony garnier!

tylerw, Wednesday, 24 October 2018 19:55 (six years ago) link

yeah i was surprised by that!

Greta Van Fleek (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 24 October 2018 19:56 (six years ago) link

it's crazy that tony garnier has played every bob dylan gig for almost 30 years. he's like the cal ripken of bass players.

tylerw, Wednesday, 24 October 2018 20:39 (six years ago) link

is charlie sexton in the band now?

Greta Van Fleek (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 24 October 2018 20:44 (six years ago) link

he is! he's probably done 15 years on and off with bob since the late 90s.

tylerw, Wednesday, 24 October 2018 20:57 (six years ago) link

Shout out to that Kuzu link, had no idea Dorji had a band / group going. That panel at 1000 Roses was some of the wildest shit, especially the context of literally the chillest and most low-key festival that has ever existed.

Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Wednesday, 24 October 2018 21:58 (six years ago) link

he has a duo with the Kuzu drummer too
he is awesome

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 24 October 2018 22:01 (six years ago) link

(i meant the drummer but tashi dorji is pretty awesome too)

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 24 October 2018 22:01 (six years ago) link


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