ILX Gonna Shine in My Backdoor Someday (new post-Fahey folk for ppl posting in Takoma/Tompkins Square threads Pt II)

anyone read that White Tears book from last year? I didn't think it was particularly great, but it did deal with some of that overall mentality.

I really actually fucking hate that whole old school collector mentality where it's like they feel like they own the fucking music because they have all these artifacts and shit they hoard
seriously this behavior is unbecoming at best and not to be allowed when it's anything like the loud verbal abuse that was described upthread at that festival. these people are probably also total misogynists? just a guess?

maybe some are merely partial misogynists

I’m not sure what the story was but it always came across as slight bragging about owning the footage but not willing to confirm that the project will finish anytime soon.
attention needy too? shocking!
he releases it and no one tolerates him anymore

yeah it think it's a mix of elitism, misogyny and fundamentally being super weird & wound-up, esp because they'd actually done a good job of getting a diverse panel and after one of the women asked him to stop at least glenn jones had him kicked out and removed from the room....coley said they'd actually intended to have an open mic for audience questions but pulled it at the last minute because they knew he would get up there and filibuster whatever weird ideas he has about "real" american primitive

yuck
create a schism and leave that guy behind imo
again, glenn jones super otm

any relation to Josh?

nah i think the last names are just a coincidence

josh rosenthal i think was major label record industry dude before he left to do tompkins

By the time the day of the panel had arrived he was going with the intention to pick a fight for sure. The signs were pre-written and his wife was recording with her phone behind him.

what a weirdo

i remember he had an assortment of signs:"OPINION" "BULLSHIT" and "CONTEMPORARY GUITAR" (which I guess he thinks is what American Primitive should be called and held up every time the term was brought up)

honestly, it was shitty but MAN that was a memorable round table...seeing mild mannered glenn jones go beast mode was too good

and he got kicked out fairly early so there actually was a really good discussion that happened

For sure. I also remember "REWRITING HISTORY" or something. He probably thought he was doing the audience a big favor filtering all of the comments by the panel, you know so we wouldn't be mislead by BULLSHIT or whatnot.

Is there footage of this? Surely someone recorded it. I'd be fine with watching it post-Rosenthal ousting, even. It seems like after that fest, everyone I knew who is into this stuff was talking more about the panel than anyone who actually played the festival

there was video being shot no idea if or when it will be released

musically the festival was amazing, so many highlights, esp nathan bowles, marisa anderson, bachman, george stavis, pretty much everyone was good to great

Maybe a weird thing to say, but it is pretty fitting that a festival set up to honor Fahey's legacy (amongst other things) involved some bonkers drama and contentiousness. I mean, the man had many layers, and that was certainly one.

Still sorry I couldn't be up there for the whole thing.

Paul, there are audio recordings (and video of certain performances) of the whole fest that are available—if I send you a link via the ILX email message system is it going to hit the right inbox? Let me know if you have another way I should reach out? Not sure if someone has already sent this link over to you but there is an MP3 of the panel housed inside the folders.

Davis, I for real tried to find you at the closing performances @ the Rhizome, like going up to a couple people and asked “Sorry, is your name Davis?”… lol, I headed out around 12AM or 1AM because I had a flight out at 5AM. We will meet one day though, for sure!

Aww man, sorry to hear that! I was definitely at Rhizome too! Got to meet UMS and Global but mostly was inside checking the performances. I was eager for music as I had missed almost all of it, but I imagine everyone else was burned out and just looking to hang. So yeah, sorry to miss you, but maybe next time!

xp Thanks, Neal! A friend sent me a Dropbox link to what I assumed were audio recordings, but I hadn't had a chance to look until now - got 'em! Just photos of the panel though, no audio or video. Oh well! Looking forward to diving into some of these sets...

https://pitchfork.com/news/steve-gunn-announces-new-album-and-tour-shares-song-listen/

dig this song, though steve has probably outgrown being considered part of this "scene" but hey when yr a jet yr a jet. cool supporting cast!

The Unseen In Between was produced by James Elkington, and features contributions from Bob Dylan’s musical director Tony Garnier (bass), Meg Baird (vocals), and others.

tony garnier!

yeah i was surprised by that!

it's crazy that tony garnier has played every bob dylan gig for almost 30 years. he's like the cal ripken of bass players.

is charlie sexton in the band now?

he is! he's probably done 15 years on and off with bob since the late 90s.

Shout out to that Kuzu link, had no idea Dorji had a band / group going. That panel at 1000 Roses was some of the wildest shit, especially the context of literally the chillest and most low-key festival that has ever existed.

he has a duo with the Kuzu drummer too
he is awesome

(i meant the drummer but tashi dorji is pretty awesome too)

oh yeah, tashi solo last weekend was great! exciting sounds.

https://tashidorji1.bandcamp.com/album/both-will-escape-tashi-dorji-tyler-damon
this is the guitar/drums duo

tashi/damon duo is so amazing, get live in st louis too it's incredible

peter walker loses everything in house fire. pretty horrible

https://www.gofundme.com/hcd65-rebuild-the-ark

"The Ark" in Woodstock has burned to the ground .

Early Monday morning a fire consumed the Ark along with the two neighboring buildings. Leaving six families and residence homeless. Peter barely made it out with his life, escaping barefoot in his under shorts holding two burning guitars. He has lost everything

The Ark was built in the late 1960's by Paul Farmer and Patty Goodyear (the tire heiress). In 1988 when Patty passed from leukemia they turned the building over to he Peter to use as a cultural Ark.

For the last 30 years Peter has filled the Ark with Woodstock memorabilia, original recordings of the musicians that made Woodstock the great place that it is. The collection included paintings by Woodstock artist Robert Reynolds, Bob Dacey and John Ernst, as well as a small comprehensive law library. There was also a collection of priceless acoustical instruments, music real to real tapes, cassettes, videos and digital art in various formats. The upper part of the building was used an audio and video recording studio for local artists.

All of this is lost, please help us rebuild. Any and all help is appreciated.

oh man how sad

geez louise that is sad

https://tashidorji1.bandcamp.com/album/both-will-escape-tashi-dorji-tyler-damon
this is the guitar/drums duo

This is amazingly good, I might like this even better than the trio!

whoa that duo set is NOISY at times! very impressive

enjoying this

https://oscartengo.bandcamp.com/album/live-at-airplane-mode

that's great ^^^^

30% off at tompkins square dot com sale

http://www.tompkinssquare.com/archives/1040

very sad news....pour some out for a real one...but dying for bad music on FB said Mark Fosson has died :(

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpVME042APw

aw man, that's a bummer -- he still had plenty of skills. his drag city record from a few years back was fantastic.

For real? He was just at the festival! That sucks so much...

haven't seen it reported but it's Marcus so I'm assuming he knows someone who knows someone

new Sarah Louise coming on Thrill Jockey!

definitely different, hard to categorize, guess her improv set at 1000 Rose was an indication (though this nothing like that)

http://www.thrilljockey.com/products/nighttime-birds-and-morning-stars

new William Tyler!

I like, won't change anyone's mind on him (knives out ogmor)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=br4BRG_RXO0

yeah, i like it — makes sense that Frisell apparently guests on one track here, seems like WT could evolve into a Frisell figure (without the jazz bonafides, of course).

yeah I never connected those two

did you ever watch that Frisell documentary? What a nice guy

agreed though that Tyler is great but Frisell is really operating on another level

yeah that frisell doc was nice — good to see one of those docs that doesn't leave you depressed! i feel like most musician docs end up bumming me out.

Lotta good stuff rolling out in this territory soon. Look forward to that Sarah Louise, plus the Nathan Bowles trio album. Need to check the Meg Baird+Mary Lattimore too, Meg is a pretty great guitar player and the one track I have heard so far was really cool.

Liking that Sarah Louise a lot, definitely a better fit for her vocals for me than the solo guitar tunes. Really cool.