thread to dis hyped releases that you don't get/don't like/wanna complain about

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someone mentioned 2014 in comparison with this year, which makes a lot of sense to me although i think 2014 was the weakest year for albums in recent memory and this year has easily been the strongest. it kinda produces the same result in aggregate lists

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Thursday, 6 December 2018 16:34 (five years ago) link

xp with alpine static

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Thursday, 6 December 2018 16:34 (five years ago) link

This year the strongest? 2016!

imago, Thursday, 6 December 2018 16:34 (five years ago) link

cmon we need more hate

― imago, Thursday, December 6, 2018 9:32 AM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ok i really disliked the time i spent with the american pleasure club album yesterday

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Thursday, 6 December 2018 16:35 (five years ago) link

This year the strongest? 2016!

― imago, Thursday, December 6, 2018 9:34 AM (twenty-seven seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

also an incredible year but like... things that would've made my top ten in 2016 are drifting to the 20s and 30s this year. there's too much excellent stuff

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Thursday, 6 December 2018 16:35 (five years ago) link

For me, 2016 had more all-time great albums but there's a case that this year has had just as many (or more) really, really good albums

imago, Thursday, 6 December 2018 16:36 (five years ago) link

I love the emptiness of these statements absent a modicum of shared criteria to determine what is and isn't worthwhile. While we're at it, though, 2018 was alright, no more and no less.

pomenitul, Thursday, 6 December 2018 16:38 (five years ago) link

I love the emptiness of these statements absent a modicum of shared criteria to determine what is and isn't worthwhile

welcome to ilx/new board description

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Thursday, 6 December 2018 16:39 (five years ago) link

All music is worthwhile to someone, if only to the person who made it, but it doesn't mean we can't be irreverent. I see less and less irreverence, people pretend to like everything out of general respect or optimism, safe that they be a hater or someone who does not understand.

Nabozo, Thursday, 6 December 2018 16:46 (five years ago) link

it feels like a lot to get into but this is 2018 for me:

- new albums from established bands/artists that blew me away in ways they hadn't previously (mewithoutyou, the 1975, low, mr twin sister, meshell ndegeocello, autechre, robyn, fucked up)
- stuff that seemed extremely congruent with the chaos and noise i felt humming internally and externally all year (low again, autechre again, mewithoutyou again, julia holter, dj healer, helena hauff, yves tumor, skee mask, sheck wes)
- tons of albums that i'm still getting to the bottom of (voivod, evoken, jenny wilson)

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Thursday, 6 December 2018 16:46 (five years ago) link

I spent many a self-pitying night listening to Things We Lost in the Fire when it came out, but Low's latest reminded me of Neil Young's Trans: kind of cool yet too unidiomatic to be convincing.

pomenitul, Thursday, 6 December 2018 16:52 (five years ago) link

2013 and 14 were pretty weak but these last 4 have been very very strong

what this year shares in common with 2014 is a lack of event albums that completely dominated critical discourse throughout the year and eoy lists, so what's bubbling to the top feels a little less pre-ordained
and there's more room for indie darlings like mitski. at least this year it's better stuff than the war on the drugs

ufo, Thursday, 6 December 2018 16:53 (five years ago) link

the only stuff id really complain about that's getting a lot of love in lists this year is sweetener and the idles album

ufo, Thursday, 6 December 2018 16:54 (five years ago) link

i love the Robyn album, after not being particularly invested in her music previously

omar little, Thursday, 6 December 2018 17:06 (five years ago) link

oh god idles are so shit

imago, Thursday, 6 December 2018 17:07 (five years ago) link

i think this is one of the worst years for big singles i can remember... my favorite song of the year is like... fucking tyga or something

but for albums, dang... 1975, kacey, blood orange, charlie puth all dropped classics to me and there's a good 5 or so albums i pretty much love as well

J0rdan S., Thursday, 6 December 2018 17:08 (five years ago) link

the Kacey album dominated my summer. I really did like her first and was cool with her second, but this one felt like a breakthrough.

omar little, Thursday, 6 December 2018 17:24 (five years ago) link

The Robyn album being the Chosen Pop Statement in a year where Tove Styrke has one out too is so bewildering to me

boxedjoy, Thursday, 6 December 2018 17:43 (five years ago) link

It's like people just like stuff

biliares now living will never buey (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 6 December 2018 17:57 (five years ago) link

TS: liking stuff vs. disliking stuff.

pomenitul, Thursday, 6 December 2018 17:58 (five years ago) link

i think this is one of the worst years for big singles i can remember... my favorite song of the year is like... fucking tyga or something.

but for albums, dang...

i feel like it's the opposite for hip-hop this year. my singles list is gonna be overflowing with rap songs, but all the tentpole rap albums disappointed me this year.

big crime for a SPECIAL WHATEVER (voodoo chili), Thursday, 6 December 2018 18:18 (five years ago) link

the only stuff id really complain about that's getting a lot of love in lists this year is sweetener and the idles album

Seems to be mainly 6Music and UK Record Shops responsible for Idles doing so well in the aggregated best ofs

groovypanda, Friday, 7 December 2018 09:13 (five years ago) link

were a lot of decent (if not stellar) hip hop records this year: lil baby, gunna, rico nasty, megan thee stallion, quan, SOB x RBE. travis' record was decent too, surprisingly

biggest disappointment was SR3MM. too looooooooooong

best album was probably nipsey hussle's actually

single bed mentality (||||||||), Friday, 7 December 2018 09:18 (five years ago) link

Idles are ranking highly on RYM as well. I have no idea why. Maybe they're the sort of punk that the record industry likes to promote

imago, Friday, 7 December 2018 09:30 (five years ago) link

super year for afrobeats

Scritti Vanilli - The Word Girl You Know It's True (dog latin), Friday, 7 December 2018 09:32 (five years ago) link

Years are tools of oppression designed by the measuring classes to distract and divide us, so I don't pay too much attention to them. BUT, giving in to the premise for one moment I would say that low key 2018 had some good records, I bought some of them and they are upstairs

saer, Friday, 7 December 2018 09:37 (five years ago) link

i adore tove styrke but sway was super underwhelming as an album unfortunately, not bad but she's clearly capable of much more

ufo, Friday, 7 December 2018 09:39 (five years ago) link

Idles are what a lot of people in the UK want from a band, I guess.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 7 December 2018 10:13 (five years ago) link

The success of Idles is giving 6music license to play some truly awful bands right now, the sort of thing even they would have been too embarrassed to pay in the past. I'm perhaps a little bit more tolerant of Idles having been exposed to 'Yak' and 'Fontaines DC'.

Matt DC, Friday, 7 December 2018 10:17 (five years ago) link

I've never heard Idles but the only people I know who like them usually listen to landfill indie and Oasis, whereas the actual punk people I know don't seem to mention them at all

Colonel Poo, Friday, 7 December 2018 10:21 (five years ago) link

my punk friend adores them and im a bit confused by that

on one level they're really just not for me so normally i wouldn't care too much but the lyrics are so corny, i dont get it at all

ufo, Friday, 7 December 2018 10:27 (five years ago) link

i've only heard one of their songs and it basically sounded like a less endearing new model army

my name is leee john, for we are many (NickB), Friday, 7 December 2018 10:34 (five years ago) link

I know this is the thread for people who don't trust themselves to criticise a record without shitting up a thread, but the Idles thread is literally unshituppable so maybe we should do this over there.

Matt DC, Friday, 7 December 2018 10:38 (five years ago) link

I'M ON IT

BRING BACK GALLOWS

biliares now living will never buey (Noodle Vague), Friday, 7 December 2018 12:41 (five years ago) link

as threadstarter I approve of leading an angry mob from here over to the main threads when required

sleeve, Friday, 7 December 2018 15:10 (five years ago) link

it's hard for me to judge 2018 in context. starting in 2016 i really started going ham on new music, and every year since then i've found more of it i like. so much of it that i can't even make sense of it or contextualize it or rank it or even recommend it, really. all i can do is listen. it wasn't until a couple days ago that i finally settled on a Favorite Record from 2018. all i can say is "well this is good and this is good and this other thing is good".

at this point i'd say 2018 is my favorite year yet for music, but that probably says more about me than it does about 2018.

patterns? i'm listening to a lot of strange electronic noises. 2018's been a really good year for that. but i haven't left any of the stuff i used to listen to behind. there's still a good smattering of prog rock records in my 2018 listening, for instance. and i still am listening to the old folks releasing records that even old people don't necessarily care about - i've mentioned it before, but i love chris connelly's new record which has gotten no buzz or play at all that i've seen.

all the rock seems to devolve down to post-punk, and i think we're getting to a point where there's such a thing as "landfill post-punk", but there's plenty of stuff i like - lithics, for instance. i'm ready to let go of rock at any time but i did find myself really liking the new fucked up record and the new uncle acid record.

if i'm not as negative as i used to be about the music i don't like, it's because first off, i don't really have room in my head to even remember it, and second off, there are so many more important things for me to hate. and the stuff i do remember and don't like, such as for instance the new low record - i mean it's not a copout to say i don't get it, it's got enough novelty in it that i'd really have to work to figure out what it is that leaves me cold.

there are also a lot of things i don't even bother to listen to. i'm bad on hip-hop and pop. i haven't heard ariana grande or robyn! i might like them. i probably wouldn't like the 1975 though.

dub pilates (rushomancy), Friday, 7 December 2018 15:22 (five years ago) link

but yeah i do want to single out a couple records from the year-end lists that i listened to and thought were overhyped

one of the year-end lists had a new recording of bartok's violin concertos, and his second violin concerto is my all around favorite classical work, and this new recording was the worst recording i've ever heard of it. it's just way too fucking legato in all the wrong ways.

another year-end list had a red/anarchist black metal album on it, and people keep making these records and they keep being goddamn terrible. goddamn i sympathize with RABM's politics way more than i sympathize with NSBM (fuck NSBM) but the only time i ever hear anything decent in RABM is when it's a crust punk band pretending to be RABM, and even then they're better off just being crust punk

fuck nazis but if you can't make a good black metal record don't, even if you are a gay space communist

dub pilates (rushomancy), Friday, 7 December 2018 15:27 (five years ago) link

kind of cool yet too unidiomatic to be convincing

what

resident hack (Simon H.), Friday, 7 December 2018 15:27 (five years ago) link

rusho what was the offending RABM record

resident hack (Simon H.), Friday, 7 December 2018 15:28 (five years ago) link

ahhh, you made me look it up

yovel

dub pilates (rushomancy), Friday, 7 December 2018 15:30 (five years ago) link

i guess feminazgul are ok

dub pilates (rushomancy), Friday, 7 December 2018 15:35 (five years ago) link

I like Neckbeard Deathcamp but more because they make me laugh than because they are actually a good black metal band

Colonel Poo, Friday, 7 December 2018 15:40 (five years ago) link

I do treasure my ND shirt

resident hack (Simon H.), Friday, 7 December 2018 15:41 (five years ago) link

starting in 2016 i really started going ham on new music, and every year since then i've found more of it i like. so much of it that i can't even make sense of it or contextualize it or rank it or even recommend it, really. all i can do is listen. it wasn't until a couple days ago that i finally settled on a Favorite Record from 2018. all i can say is "well this is good and this is good and this other thing is good".

this is almost exactly the case for me too. i have a list of about 15-20 that are all "top tier" and the order changes every day

big crime for a SPECIAL WHATEVER (voodoo chili), Friday, 7 December 2018 16:09 (five years ago) link

If you're not constantly maintaining a RYM account you're...uh...probably functional in other aspects of your life ;_;

imago, Friday, 7 December 2018 16:13 (five years ago) link

I've never even BEEN to RYM.

Am I otherwise functional?

Evan, Friday, 7 December 2018 16:25 (five years ago) link

no!

Evan, Friday, 7 December 2018 16:25 (five years ago) link

I can only spend energy on one obsessive music tracking thing and that's my big annual playlist

resident hack (Simon H.), Friday, 7 December 2018 16:26 (five years ago) link

the only thing i use rym for is to maintain a list of my favorite albums of all time, pretty worthless otherwise

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 7 December 2018 16:31 (five years ago) link

it helps me keep track of all the music, what can I say

imago, Friday, 7 December 2018 16:34 (five years ago) link


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