Rolling Stones: Classic or Dud

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Ok this might be a hot take and I like the Stones but...have they ever been great live? Like maybe in the Jones era in the 60s? Whenever I dip into even peak-era live stuff I am always disappointed

chr1sb3singer, Tuesday, 18 December 2018 18:10 (five years ago) link

Get thee to the Marquee Club!!
Also the live in Brussels show
and there’s another one I am forgetting

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 18 December 2018 18:13 (five years ago) link

idk what is happening here (but i like it like it yes i do) (sorry)

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/09/27/19/2CC276D400000578-0-image-a-65_1443377434228.jpg

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 18 December 2018 18:15 (five years ago) link

xpost
The 71 Marquee gig? I feel like I listened to that and it didn't do anything for me

chr1sb3singer, Tuesday, 18 December 2018 18:16 (five years ago) link

The Ladies & Gents set is good, as is the Some Girls '78 set.

Infidels, Like Dylan In The Eighties (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 18 December 2018 18:20 (five years ago) link

xpost huh. welp

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 18 December 2018 18:21 (five years ago) link

Some Girls 78! Yes. Love that.

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 18 December 2018 18:21 (five years ago) link

The thing is, live Stones rarely have the transcendent quality live like, say, The Who had for so long.

Infidels, Like Dylan In The Eighties (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 18 December 2018 18:22 (five years ago) link

that is very true. I think the Stones def were way better in the studio than they ever were live. Or at least the studio showed off their arrangements a lot better.

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 18 December 2018 18:25 (five years ago) link

if that 1978 set is the small club gig I'm thinking of, it's fantastic

sleeve, Tuesday, 18 December 2018 18:28 (five years ago) link

The thing is, live Stones rarely have the transcendent quality live like, say, The Who had for so long.

― Infidels, Like Dylan In The Eighties (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, December 18, 2018 6:22 PM (eleven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah, The Who were four individuals that always used to somehow coalesce into one unstoppable entity such was the degree to which they could somehow read each others minds musically.

With The Stones, they were always sloppy - they either somehow managed to sloppily make it come together or make an awful hash of it, depending on what mood they were in.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Tuesday, 18 December 2018 18:41 (five years ago) link

Also, The Who had a superior rhythm section - their bassist is one of the greatest rock bassists of all time and they had a drummer that didn't sound lumpen and could actually perform a good sounding drum fill.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Tuesday, 18 December 2018 18:47 (five years ago) link

Ok this might be a hot take and I like the Stones but...have they ever been great live?

I was gonna bring this up so glad someone else did cuz I think the answer is actually no, they were never consistently great live, even during their (multiple) peak periods. they were *always* sloppy, occasionally really hitting their stride for great moments, but they were hardly a lean, live performing unit and there are *tons* of shitty performances of theirs widely available that demonstrate this. they were def better in the studio.

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 18 December 2018 18:54 (five years ago) link

Also, The Who had a superior rhythm section - their bassist is one of the greatest rock bassists of all time and they had a drummer that didn't sound lumpen and could actually perform a good sounding drum fill.

― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Tuesday, December 18, 2018 6:47 PM (seventeen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

?? don't disagree about moon, but charlie watts was (is?) a great drummer, easily my favorite musician in the stones

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 18 December 2018 19:07 (five years ago) link

I mean when I think about the Stones live I think about two things: one a dude getting killed at a concert & two them getting torched live so bad by the Who that their roadie buried the tape in his barn.

chr1sb3singer, Tuesday, 18 December 2018 19:09 (five years ago) link

It is just weird to me that a band I love doesn't have a live record from the era that I like more than the studio albums

chr1sb3singer, Tuesday, 18 December 2018 19:10 (five years ago) link

I think about the Stones live I think about two things

thought for sure one of these would be getting hilariously pwned by James Brown on the T.A.M.I. show

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 18 December 2018 19:16 (five years ago) link

Ha, there is that too!

Oh and stealing Stephen Stills's idea of wearing a Jets jersey.

chr1sb3singer, Tuesday, 18 December 2018 19:18 (five years ago) link

Every time I contemplate seeing the present-day stones (one "last" chance to see the legends) I think of Buzz Osborne's description:

I could not be bothered to see them live now. I saw them in the early ’80s and it sounded like amplified motocross. They’d literally be halfway through a song before I could tell what it was. “Oh, it’s ‘Satisfaction.’” It was this horrendous cacophony, which is good on one side, but that’s not what they were trying to do.

Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 18 December 2018 19:48 (five years ago) link

The '89 and '94 tours were much better. Everything I've seen of the '81 tour is hopped up and cynical, i.e. "Let's hurry the fuck up, we got chicks and blow waiting."

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 18 December 2018 20:01 (five years ago) link

Oh and stealing Stephen Stills's idea of wearing a Jets jersey.

― chr1sb3singer, Tuesday, December 18, 2018 1:18 PM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

"I invented wearing football jerseys in rock n' roll" - Stephen Stills, the original Kanye

No Smockin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 18 December 2018 22:08 (five years ago) link

"I invented wearing football jerseys in rock n' roll" - Stephen Stills, the original delusional hack

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 18 December 2018 22:09 (five years ago) link

Stills seeing Jagger wearing that jersey and biting his knuckle in rage is beautiful image

chr1sb3singer, Tuesday, 18 December 2018 22:14 (five years ago) link

"I invented wearing football jerseys in rock n' roll" - Stephen Stills, the original delusional hack

― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 18 December 2018 22:09 (four minutes ago) Permalink

Tbf Stills also said that "Ohio" was a good song but needed another verse to really be considered a classic song like "For What It's Worth" which was written by Stephen Stills

chr1sb3singer, Tuesday, 18 December 2018 22:16 (five years ago) link

Is that a Walter Payton jersey? Shouts to another fan of inhalants!

chr1sb3singer, Tuesday, 18 December 2018 22:18 (five years ago) link

sure anyone can wear a football jersey, but can they record over a Jimi Hendrix solo to do an organ overdub?

No Smockin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 18 December 2018 22:20 (five years ago) link

With 44 new answers, I expected at least one of them to be dead.

adam the (abanana), Tuesday, 18 December 2018 22:48 (five years ago) link

Ron Wood's been a hologram for years.

Infidels, Like Dylan In The Eighties (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 18 December 2018 23:16 (five years ago) link

Brian Jones has been dead for a while iirc.

Vernon Locke, Tuesday, 18 December 2018 23:18 (five years ago) link

they've all been dead for decades. on the inside.

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 18 December 2018 23:26 (five years ago) link

Please, Stones, go away, gracefully

calstars, Wednesday, 19 December 2018 00:01 (five years ago) link

little late for that

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 19 December 2018 00:03 (five years ago) link

lol

underqualified backing vocalist (morrisp), Wednesday, 19 December 2018 00:22 (five years ago) link

what the fuck is "the synch community"

― L'assie (Euler)

my understanding is there is this gentleman by the name of andrew wendland who has, for the past fifteen years, been listening to pink floyd albums while watching movies to discover all the movies that "synch" up with pink floyd albums

errang (rushomancy), Wednesday, 19 December 2018 01:19 (five years ago) link

Anyone ever watch the Exorcist synched to Goats Head Soup?

calstars, Wednesday, 19 December 2018 01:23 (five years ago) link

whoa

sleeve, Wednesday, 19 December 2018 01:57 (five years ago) link

that’s a thing ?

budo jeru, Wednesday, 19 December 2018 02:04 (five years ago) link

lol such easy marks itt

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 19 December 2018 03:04 (five years ago) link

Thread got me listening to Tattoo You again last night - not all that bad for an outtakes collection.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Wednesday, 19 December 2018 10:56 (five years ago) link

“Security was a bit slow, and I saw some guy heading straight for Mick”, said Keith.
“I have no idea what this guy is gonna do...all I know is that he’s trying to get his hands on Mick, and I’ve got a weapon in my hands...” - Hampton Coliseum (1981).
Keith Richards is 75 today. pic.twitter.com/cGjFGpWn5S

— Music History (@RockWalkLondon) December 18, 2018

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 20 December 2018 03:39 (five years ago) link

Dang — retweeted ✅

underqualified backing vocalist (morrisp), Thursday, 20 December 2018 05:10 (five years ago) link

Keith's cool and all, but it's Mick who doesn't miss a note

Bênoit Balls (stevie), Friday, 21 December 2018 14:00 (five years ago) link

From upthread, getting owned by James Brown is nothing to be ashamed of. I dunno about live Stones after 1964 but their T.A.M.I. set is fucking great.

Rhine Jive Click Bait (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 21 December 2018 14:45 (five years ago) link

I think I'm finally arrived at the knowledge that, as much as I love Exile, etc, the Brian Jones Stones is the real Stones

Ae$op Rocky (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 21 December 2018 15:07 (five years ago) link

Thought you were gonna write, "Dirty Work is a fucking great album" after "as much as I love Exile, etc,"

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 21 December 2018 15:08 (five years ago) link

When I was a child, I spake as a child, understood as a child, thought as a child; when I became a man, I knew Undercover was super underrated

Ae$op Rocky (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 21 December 2018 15:13 (five years ago) link


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