Scott Walker's voice is very mannered and takes some getting used to, not the same thing as being soulless.
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 7 February 2019 17:24 (five years ago) link
What should vox have then?
― ٩༼ º෴º ༽۶ (FlopsyDuck), Thursday, 7 February 2019 17:24 (five years ago) link
If it has feeling and soul, that's great, if it doesn't, it doesn't bother me. Though, of course it would help if the terms feeling and soul could be defined first.
― Wee boats wobble but they don't fall down (Tom D.), Thursday, 7 February 2019 17:26 (five years ago) link
There are different kinds of voices which work in different ways, I wouldn't say there are a universal set of qualities
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 7 February 2019 17:26 (five years ago) link
http://www.teeconnection.co.uk/communities/4/004/013/140/934/images/4622701475.png
― peace, man, Thursday, 7 February 2019 17:35 (five years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsAeAMNz7BsI mean I can listen to someone like Jose Mauro with a very similar orchestral/confident baritone style to Scott Walker... and it just excels in every way because this music has soul. I was playing it and Scott Walker 4 side by side (both 1970 albums). I pause one and listen to the other for a while. Then go back. I even tried a Scott Walker collection album.
It's kind of funny how similar the album covers are.
https://img.discogs.com/MvqiaJcfeT5wuBBMKkeoC5tb7_g=/fit-in/300x300/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(40)/discogs-images/R-1574343-1345055346-2065.jpeg.jpg
― ٩༼ º෴º ༽۶ (FlopsyDuck), Thursday, 7 February 2019 17:37 (five years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3yRlRcHbPY
― ٩༼ º෴º ༽۶ (FlopsyDuck), Thursday, 7 February 2019 17:41 (five years ago) link
I guess I'll try a little harder... I'm going back to Scott Walker 4
― ٩༼ º෴º ༽۶ (FlopsyDuck), Thursday, 7 February 2019 17:51 (five years ago) link
I prefer Scott 3.
― Wee boats wobble but they don't fall down (Tom D.), Thursday, 7 February 2019 17:52 (five years ago) link
Scott's finest vocals imo are on Scott 3, I vastly rate that album over 4
wow jinx
― flamboyant goon tie included, Thursday, 7 February 2019 18:08 (five years ago) link
I once thought as you, then listened to Scott 4 and Got It.
― Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 7 February 2019 18:11 (five years ago) link
I believe it was William Joel who said, "It's all about soul."
― Gunther Gleiben (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 7 February 2019 18:45 (five years ago) link
Window dressing background music + window dressing voice don't work together. Something has got to give and my verdict seems to lean towards Scott Walker doesn't have much to give. I'm hearing hallmark tv-movie music on lots of these tracks.
― ٩༼ º෴º ༽۶ (FlopsyDuck), Thursday, 7 February 2019 19:05 (five years ago) link
I'm with you on most of his other material.
― Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 7 February 2019 19:07 (five years ago) link
I've never didn't got Scott 4! The Seventh Seal is dross, On Your Own Again is moving because of the epiphany and the string entry and charming in it brevity, The World's Strongest Man is trite, Angels Of Ashes is a cyclical wonderland that I adored until I decided I might learn it and then read the lyrics and wow they are bad, Boy Child is one of Scott's best, same with Hero, and I have no particular feelings for he rest of it. 4 is scattershot emotionally and there is none of the incredible world-building that Scott 3 goes for, which sustains such a specific and perfect mood, and would be one of my favourite records of all time except that "We Came Through" is out of place, "30th Century Man" is unambitious, and I prefer Brel in French
― flamboyant goon tie included, Thursday, 7 February 2019 19:07 (five years ago) link
The keepers from 4:
On Your Own Again (brevity!)Hero of the WarBoy ChildGet Behind MeThe Old Man's Back Again
...which is five more than I expected.
― Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 7 February 2019 19:11 (five years ago) link
I'm not sure why so many people like "On Your Own Again".
I don't think disliking Scott Walker's 60s music is exactly controversial fwiw.
― Wee boats wobble but they don't fall down (Tom D.), Thursday, 7 February 2019 19:13 (five years ago) link
I'm trying to listen to Scott Walker. Even when he seems to be trying his hardest his voice has as much soul as Dean Martin's.
― ٩༼ º෴º ༽۶ (FlopsyDuck)
this is what made "epizootics" so interesting to me, scott walker sings in pretty much the whitest manner imaginable
― The Elvis of Nationalism and Amoral Patriotism (rushomancy), Friday, 8 February 2019 00:54 (five years ago) link
the actual fuck is a comparison with dean martin a slur now
― ɪmˈpəʊzɪŋ (darraghmac), Friday, 8 February 2019 01:07 (five years ago) link
If only he was half as good as Dean Martin.
― EZ Snappin, Friday, 8 February 2019 01:09 (five years ago) link
youd hardly ask andy williams to move from that spot for him
― ɪmˈpəʊzɪŋ (darraghmac), Friday, 8 February 2019 01:13 (five years ago) link
true.
― EZ Snappin, Friday, 8 February 2019 01:26 (five years ago) link
Maybe change this thread title to "daft shit people think"
― Stephen Yakkety-Yaxley-Rosbif (Noodle Vague), Friday, 8 February 2019 01:45 (five years ago) link
I don't know anything about Hozier, and am deeply suspicious of who or what he may be, but ... I kind of like the two new songs of his?
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 8 February 2019 02:25 (five years ago) link
Re: DeanOperatic lounge music. Hardly a surprise that people couldn’t give 2 shits. I respect his place in history though.
― ٩༼ º෴º ༽۶ (FlopsyDuck), Friday, 8 February 2019 02:44 (five years ago) link
recommend me some good dean martin because "hominy grits" fucking sucks, what the hell are you even doing dean
― The Elvis of Nationalism and Amoral Patriotism (rushomancy), Friday, 8 February 2019 02:53 (five years ago) link
I find that people like you who like too much music can’t be the most discerning of listeners
― ٩༼ º෴º ༽۶ (FlopsyDuck), Friday, 8 February 2019 03:10 (five years ago) link
No such thing as listening to too much music and fuck being discerning
― ultros ultros-ghali, Friday, 8 February 2019 11:23 (five years ago) link
I agree with you on the former
― ٩༼ º෴º ༽۶ (FlopsyDuck), Friday, 8 February 2019 12:30 (five years ago) link
A not-easily-impressed friend of mine is working with Hozier and has reported to me that he is impressed
― flamboyant goon tie included, Friday, 8 February 2019 13:45 (five years ago) link
you've spent this entire thread talking shit about dean martin, i was kind of hoping for recommendations from someone who actually likes his singing
― the scientology of mountains (rushomancy), Friday, 8 February 2019 14:37 (five years ago) link
jfc "people like you who like too much music" - you can never like too much music
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 8 February 2019 14:41 (five years ago) link
I've never didn't got Scott 4! The Seventh Seal is dross, On Your Own Again is moving because of the epiphany and the string entry and charming in it brevity, The World's Strongest Man is trite, Angels Of Ashes is a cyclical wonderland that I adored until I decided I might learn it and then read the lyrics and wow they are bad, Boy Child is one of Scott's best, same with Hero, and I have no particular feelings for he rest of it. 4 is scattershot emotionally and there is none of the incredible world-building that Scott 3 goes for, which sustains such a specific and perfect mood, and would be one of my favourite records of all time except that "We Came Through" is out of place, "30th Century Man" is unambitious, and I prefer Brel in French― flamboyant goon tie included, Thursday, February 7, 2019 7:07 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post PermalinkThe keepers from 4:On Your Own Again (brevity!)Hero of the WarBoy ChildGet Behind MeThe Old Man's Back Again...which is five more than I expected.― Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, February 7, 2019 7:11 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
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I LOVE The Seventh Seal in all its Morri-phoney glory. My faves are that, Old Man and Hero of the War
― frame casual (dog latin), Friday, 8 February 2019 14:45 (five years ago) link
I think 4 is my favourite of the lot. Scott 3 I find a bit sleepy and a monotonous. So many slow soaring tracks, not enough bite
― frame casual (dog latin), Friday, 8 February 2019 14:47 (five years ago) link
my favorite songs on 4 are the ones where he scats at the end
― the scientology of mountains (rushomancy), Friday, 8 February 2019 14:55 (five years ago) link
nah see you win the game of liking music when you are so discerning that you like mayyyyybe 1 piece of music
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 8 February 2019 14:55 (five years ago) link
The second half of Scott 4 is a bit of a let down (relatively speaking, love the man and his records). Scott 3 is completely consistent imo and, might I say, dreamy (perhaps that's the 'sleepy' DL mentions). But The Seventh Seal would be one of the first songs I'd put on a C90 of the man.
― Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 8 February 2019 14:59 (five years ago) link
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger)
too indiscriminate, truly discerning listeners know that all music that's been made is inferior but continue to hold out hope that one day a piece of music will be made that meets that listener's exacting standards
― the scientology of mountains (rushomancy), Saturday, 9 February 2019 00:36 (five years ago) link
Dwee-dattun-dat Josef is back
― flamboyant goon tie included, Saturday, 9 February 2019 01:00 (five years ago) link
i don’t like much music anymore, but it’s not because im discerning, it’s bc im depressed
― flopson, Saturday, 9 February 2019 04:34 (five years ago) link
i connect with music through some form of joy. when im depressed it’s just like, why is this air banging on my eardrums
― flopson, Saturday, 9 February 2019 04:37 (five years ago) link
Getting too real flopman
― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Saturday, 9 February 2019 05:19 (five years ago) link
Dean Martin is good. Little old wine drinker me. I'm drinking some wine now but they're playing some boogie or whatever, dino not ok trend
― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Saturday, 9 February 2019 05:21 (five years ago) link
sounds pleasant, can't dance to it, 5.5
― mookieproof, Saturday, 9 February 2019 05:27 (five years ago) link
xp lol it was meant as an xp to flopsy. depression is not controversial
― flopson, Saturday, 9 February 2019 05:33 (five years ago) link
quality unemotional affectless treble-less ambient music flows through my chakras like spiritual drain-o
― brimstead, Saturday, 9 February 2019 07:21 (five years ago) link
I always wanted to read the big Dino bio
It's amazing how fast people's mouths move just to talk.
― jazzed (it's a boy!), Sunday, 10 February 2019 06:44 (five years ago) link
Songs In The Key Of Life is right up there with Disintegration in the list of "worst albums to be regarded as classics"
― flamboyant goon tie included, Tuesday, 12 February 2019 15:15 (five years ago) link
hey now
― Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, 12 February 2019 15:18 (five years ago) link