Grimes/Claire Boucher thread

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xxp on the other hand "we appreciate power" was a pretty bad concept (that now seems slightly less bad in context of the album concept, but still) that was also executed poorly so i'm not optimistic

"kill v maim" rules solely on a musical level - the lyrics don't really amount to much on their own and without her explaining it i'd really have no idea about her ridiculous concept for it

ufo, Wednesday, 20 March 2019 23:34 (six years ago)

Fair enough, and I don’t mean to imply she’s like, you know, a Bad Person. Just that I’m feeling ideologically opposed to her and other tech-futurist artists like OPN or Holly Herndon. I’m also recently less convinced that art has a lot to offer in terms of politics these days.

For this, I took it as more like — climate change is just another interesting idea to make an album about, and situated it as something in the future involving mostly polar bears, rather than something that is happening now, to people. If people are already immured to the idea then idk how grimes’ psas will do anything aside from give her a marketing angle. the idea of some exaggerating and aestheticizing our relentless patterns of consumption as some badass elephant head eating anime goddess I guess just doesn’t resonate with me.

But I guess we’re at a better place than ten years ago where any talk of environmental issues in art world circles was met with sneers and derision.

Vapor waif (uptown churl), Wednesday, 20 March 2019 23:41 (six years ago)

I haven't read anything other than this thread but didn't Anohni already do the climate-accelerationist thing?

seandalai, Thursday, 21 March 2019 01:23 (six years ago)

Good lord - who gives a shit?

flappy bird, Thursday, 21 March 2019 02:01 (six years ago)

xp Yes, so did OPN. Lots of people are addressing climate change in their work in this way and have been for a while. Only recently has the tone shifted from "Hopelessness" (the title of the Anohni album iirc) to "Fuck it" (the correct position)

flappy bird, Thursday, 21 March 2019 02:02 (six years ago)

I mean, what can you do but laugh in the face of extinction?

flappy bird, Thursday, 21 March 2019 02:04 (six years ago)

Hey this is interesting:

According to the timestamps on her original MySpace page, Boucher began writing music under the name Grimes in 2007. Her performer name was chosen because at the time, MySpace allowed artists to list three musical genres. She listed grime for all three, before knowing what grime music was.[18][19]

What's that Phish song that goes "Bag it, Tag it"? (morrisp), Thursday, 21 March 2019 02:50 (six years ago)

Relatable

flappy bird, Thursday, 21 March 2019 03:27 (six years ago)

if someone isn't british it's probably pretty easy not to know what grime music is

like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Thursday, 21 March 2019 04:39 (six years ago)

personally i'm too busy hating on her for providing tedious backstories for her songs up front to hate on her for her objectionable themes

⅋ (crüt), Thursday, 21 March 2019 05:33 (six years ago)

Nothing makes me feel older than reading this thread

Sam Weller, Thursday, 21 March 2019 12:34 (six years ago)

I don’t really know what grime music is either, tbh, and I’ve been reading ILM for 12 years

Trϵϵship, Thursday, 21 March 2019 12:52 (six years ago)

Don't feel bad, I still don't know the difference between drum 'n' bass, house or any of those subgenres. And I'm a professional DJ! (Not really.)

Plinka Trinka Banga Tink (Eliza D.), Thursday, 21 March 2019 12:53 (six years ago)

I’ve honestly tried. But so many things are called dubstep that sound nothing like each other.

Trϵϵship, Thursday, 21 March 2019 12:54 (six years ago)

It’s mostly the british ones. House and techno i get.

Trϵϵship, Thursday, 21 March 2019 12:58 (six years ago)

Grime music is music that is grimy.

pomenitul, Thursday, 21 March 2019 13:14 (six years ago)

Everybody wanna sound grimey.

☮, 🐸 (peace, man), Thursday, 21 March 2019 14:18 (six years ago)

and get a Grimy award.

AlXTC from Paris, Thursday, 21 March 2019 14:19 (six years ago)

Or a Latin Grimy.

Have any other musicians/groups chosen their name based on a misunderstanding of what another genre was...

Sam Weller, Friday, 22 March 2019 10:48 (six years ago)

Gettin' all kindsa Grimey.

https://www.culturedmag.com/grimes-claire-boucher-c/

“The last album was a piece of crap,” she says. “I feel like people really misread it and it feels like a stain on my life.” She resists the notion that she tried to make a pop record, and considers it more of a genre exercise in which she demonstrated her range as a producer. “I just wish I could make music in a vacuum,” she claims, before retorting, “it’s good to make people mad actually, I retract my statement. If you can make people mad without actually hurting anyone, that’s probably a good thing.”

...

A preview of three new songs finds c excavating her emotions while constructing a sonic environment for her dark supervillain. Ominous guitar feedback meets sharp, whale call-sounding synths to form the underbelly of a standout called “So Heavy I Fell Through the Earth.” c says the song, whose mystifying lyrics ride an angelic vocal melody, is about how love can be like a poison. “Specifically how when a dude comes inside you, you become in their thrall—how it’s an attack on your feminist freedom,” she illustrates.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 4 April 2019 17:29 (six years ago)

Grimes otm for a change

Simon H., Thursday, 4 April 2019 17:29 (six years ago)

grimes

c

Karl Malone, Thursday, 4 April 2019 17:33 (six years ago)

incredible Kanye West energy in this promo cycle

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Thursday, 4 April 2019 17:48 (six years ago)

which part xxp

flappy bird, Thursday, 4 April 2019 17:49 (six years ago)

“Specifically how when a dude comes inside you, you become in their thrall—how it’s an attack on your feminist freedom,” she illustrates.

I think this is a matter of perspective...

Trϵϵship, Thursday, 4 April 2019 17:52 (six years ago)

I think I’ll like this record though. Never been disappointed with c’s music in the past

Trϵϵship, Thursday, 4 April 2019 17:57 (six years ago)

By that logic, are facials considered microaggressions? Is felching the best way to remedey such an attack?

Cousin Slappy, Thursday, 4 April 2019 19:29 (six years ago)

dam thats egdy you should do a comedy sho!w

they're not booing you, sir, they're shouting "Boot Edge Edge" (Will M.), Thursday, 4 April 2019 19:31 (six years ago)

literally everything negative that people (self included) think about her is a result of her own doing.

also, i dislike everyday people like this:

retorting, “it’s good to make people mad actually, I retract my statement. If you can make people mad without actually hurting anyone, that’s probably a good thing.”

yeah, anger gets us to really productive places. i'm pretty sure dj has this same philosophy.👍🏻

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Thursday, 4 April 2019 19:42 (six years ago)

i don't honestly understand what she's talking about. art angels didn't make people angry--it was an amazing and accessible record that everyone loved.

Trϵϵship, Thursday, 4 April 2019 19:46 (six years ago)

She lost the noise kids

flappy bird, Thursday, 4 April 2019 20:59 (six years ago)

ie people in the milieu she came up in. Not that many people, but artists historically have been hurt / fixated on losing their original or “authentic” fan base.

flappy bird, Thursday, 4 April 2019 21:01 (six years ago)

anecdotally lots of ppl hated art angels yea

flopson, Thursday, 4 April 2019 21:04 (six years ago)

It took me a while to be honest and I think plenty of people aren't gonna sit there and listen to it twice. It's a challenging record.

☮ (peace, man), Thursday, 4 April 2019 21:12 (six years ago)

If by 'challenging' you mean 'insufferably poppy', yeah. I hated it when it came out and haven't revisited it since. Maybe I should – my ears are more lenient these days.

pomenitul, Thursday, 4 April 2019 21:14 (six years ago)

i didn't like it at first either bc i missed the moodiness. but then i realized grimes wanted to take me (the listener) out of the gloom that was her trademark and i thought it was a brave choice

Trϵϵship, Thursday, 4 April 2019 21:28 (six years ago)

flesh without blood is one of my favorite tracks ever tbh.

i feel personally insulted that she is calling that album a "piece of crap" to be honest

Trϵϵship, Thursday, 4 April 2019 21:41 (six years ago)

Art Angels still mostly rules and she spent the whole promo cycle talking about how she loved pop music and wanted to make something influenced by the pop music she loves so idk what she's on about when she now says she didn't try to make a pop album

there definitely was some backlash to it from fans of Visions who didn't like the new direction but that seemed relatively small overall

when she says she wishes she could make music in a vacuum i'm increasingly wishing that too because every new interview makes her seem more and more ridiculous and obnoxious unfortunately

ufo, Thursday, 4 April 2019 21:49 (six years ago)

drugs are a hell of a drugs

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 4 April 2019 21:50 (six years ago)

mod please change thread title to Grimes/c Boucher thread

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 4 April 2019 21:51 (six years ago)

By that logic, are facials considered microaggressions? Is felching the best way to remedey such an attack?

― Cousin Slappy, Thursday, April 4, 2019 12:29 PM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

cousin fp

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 4 April 2019 21:51 (six years ago)

every new interview makes her seem more and more ridiculous and obnoxious unfortunately

how does this one make her seem obnoxious?

flopson, Thursday, 4 April 2019 22:04 (six years ago)

If by 'challenging' you mean 'insufferably poppy', yeah. I hated it when it came out and haven't revisited it since. Maybe I should – my ears are more lenient these days.

― pomenitul, Thursday, April 4, 2019 9:14 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Insufferably poppy to people used to her earlier work, but abrasive and weird to your average top 40 listener, I guess? And I came to it from her earlier stuff, but thought that Scream and Venus Fly were too fucking out there until I went back and revisited it a year or so ago.

☮ (peace, man), Thursday, 4 April 2019 22:37 (six years ago)

A lot of the album seemed to be a direct reaction to people who got upset about the poppiness of her Go single (guilty, as well).

A week or so ago, I had a realization about my personal impressions of c during the lead-up to this album cycle (scorn, impatience, embarassment), I realize that I kinda went through the same shit during the interim between Visions and Art Angels. So, we'll see. My current take is that I'm probably not cool enough to understand Grimes and will probably come around a year or so from now when everybody's dad has heard it.

☮ (peace, man), Thursday, 4 April 2019 22:45 (six years ago)

the problem with 'go' is that it was bad, not that it was too poppy or mainstream

ufo, Thursday, 4 April 2019 23:26 (six years ago)

“I just wish I could make music in a vacuum,” she claims

maybe someone could put her in touch with imago?

kolarov spring (NickB), Thursday, 4 April 2019 23:42 (six years ago)

hahahaha

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 4 April 2019 23:46 (six years ago)

I loved Go

Dan S, Thursday, 4 April 2019 23:47 (six years ago)

Grimes is starting to feel like a stain in my life.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 5 April 2019 03:01 (six years ago)

some of y'all have fascinating ideas of what constitutes "poppy"

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 5 April 2019 03:13 (six years ago)


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