they have a ska song in the soundtrack to the movie stepbrothers but if you're not a cineaste like i you may have missed that film
― findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 28 May 2019 19:22 (five years ago) link
brad, this thread is specifically to complain so we don’t muck up the main thread
― Vapor waif (uptown churl), Tuesday, 28 May 2019 19:53 (five years ago) link
“Wrong” things lol
― calstars, Tuesday, 28 May 2019 20:11 (five years ago) link
okay, i listened to a few minutes of a few of their songs to try to understand and yeah, Vampire Weekend fucking suck and are everything i hate about music lol
― blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Tuesday, 28 May 2019 20:16 (five years ago) link
I've never heard a VW song, i don't think, and am pretty okay with that.
I heard most of one once. And I saw Step Brothers, but I don't remember anything about it except that it was maddeningly unfunny, never mind the soundtrack.
― shared unit of analysis (unperson), Tuesday, 28 May 2019 20:19 (five years ago) link
I don't think it's hyped, but the new Sun Kil Moon? AWFUL. To the point where I'm genuinely curious about his motivations. Lyrics continue on the same stream-of-consciousness / diary path as previous albums, production is muffled, vocals are croaked, plus a 22+ minute track is relegated to 2nd cd. It's almost Andy Kaufmann-esque, as if he's daring his audience to stay with him.
― the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Tuesday, 28 May 2019 20:39 (five years ago) link
https://media2.giphy.com/media/SJb0vHduIW8wM/giphy.gif?cid=790b76115ced9ede35496c344da9c143&rid=giphy.gif
― Emperor Tonetta Ketchup (sleeve), Tuesday, 28 May 2019 20:50 (five years ago) link
oh FFS
― Emperor Tonetta Ketchup (sleeve), Tuesday, 28 May 2019 20:51 (five years ago) link
I can't recall the last time I've actively hated an album as much as I Am Easy to Find.
― pomenitul, Thursday, 30 May 2019 22:05 (five years ago) link
All these intermittently intriguing signifiers for compositional sophistication wasted on utterly meaningless melodies sung over and over with the smug conviction that they are worthy of our attention. A vanity musical, all of it.
― pomenitul, Thursday, 30 May 2019 22:07 (five years ago) link
And the requisite major-key arpeggios meant to intimate a new, wiser, less egotistical 'me' post-midlife crisis, augmented by charmless guest vocalists so as to remind us that this is the sound of trve adulthood (only grownups will understand), of hope won through – well, what, exactly? There is no pushback, no counterpart, just the sound of a band honing their ability to deceive themselves and, I assume, their listeners.
― pomenitul, Thursday, 30 May 2019 22:19 (five years ago) link
(I still hold Alligator and Boxer in high regard, so this isn't me dismissing The National outright.)
― pomenitul, Thursday, 30 May 2019 22:20 (five years ago) link
good bc nothing else you said made any sense
― american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 30 May 2019 22:22 (five years ago) link
i'm sorry i keep ruining this thread everyone but i'm v tired of taste edgelordiness on this board
Is it so hard to entertain the possibility that we may not hear things the same way?
― pomenitul, Thursday, 30 May 2019 22:23 (five years ago) link
it's a record about trying to deal with the end of life, i feel like most of the songs are about the apocalypse, and there is almost no hope in it whatsoever
― american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 30 May 2019 22:24 (five years ago) link
so i can't see getting anything about "adulthood" from the text
― american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 30 May 2019 22:25 (five years ago) link
it's possible for us to hear things differently but you have described a record that i am easy to find is not
unless you mean the music signifies "adulthood," which, not even sure how music can do that
― american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 30 May 2019 22:26 (five years ago) link
except from projection without and like radio formats
https://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/6c550c251a6fa4a15acc5a3890081b6e
― pomenitul, Thursday, 30 May 2019 22:26 (five years ago) link
sometimes one just really dislikes stuff and needs to vent, I guess that's the theoretical difference between this thread and "post a controversial musical opinion" which sounds more like what you (justifiably) dislike (imo)
(originally I started this thread for imago to complain about year-end poll albums fwiw)
that being said I think spirited defenses are also totally legit here and thank you for that Brad, but let's not begrudge people their genuinely felt hatred
― Ambient Police (sleeve), Thursday, 30 May 2019 22:30 (five years ago) link
sorry that first "you" was an xp to Brad
i mean i've even used this thread to hate hyped-up records that i can't hear anything in but is remains v bizarre to me for someone down with alligator and boxer to loathe the new national, the posts smack of bringing ideas to a record that the record itself doesn't contain, and that shit makes me furious? for some reason?? these days???? feel like i'm refighting old battles on ilxor dot com pretty regularly lately
― american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 30 May 2019 22:33 (five years ago) link
anyway a good thing for me to do is actually shut up and not open this thread, sorry pomenitul
― american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 30 May 2019 22:34 (five years ago) link
By the way, I care very little for lyrics in general, unless they leap out at me, but I do think the emotions this record exudes on a non-verbal level are very much in tune with the kind of music aimed at signifying psychological growth and hence maturity in dramas about unravelling families and how they ultimately make up by setting aside or accepting their personal demons.
― pomenitul, Thursday, 30 May 2019 22:38 (five years ago) link
Now, you may disagree with this, and I don't blame you, but I find it interesting to read about how others experience the music I love (or loathe), as there is something fascinating about the sense of estrangement it can impel.
― pomenitul, Thursday, 30 May 2019 22:40 (five years ago) link
So I find it quite striking that you would describe the record in ontological terms (it *is* or *isn't* this or that), because your description is the furthest thing from my own time with the album. One of us may be wrong sub speciae aeternitatis, sure, it's not impossible, but I wouldn't dare venture that far.
― pomenitul, Thursday, 30 May 2019 22:41 (five years ago) link
the national are def up there w/the worst bands i've ever heard, i enjoyed when that one poster called them 'featureless' like 8 times in one or two posts a little while ago because that is smack dab otm. no clue what the new album sounds like but i assure you it's awful
― lumen (esby), Thursday, 30 May 2019 22:43 (five years ago) link
it's good music for sad dads
― Mordy, Thursday, 30 May 2019 22:45 (five years ago) link
― calstars, Thursday, 30 May 2019 22:47 (five years ago) link
someone whose opinions are 2edgy4u
― Mordy, Thursday, 30 May 2019 22:47 (five years ago) link
I'm not a dad but I'm a complete sucker for sad melodies so maybe I wouldn't dislike this record so much if it lived up to the band's reputation for melancholy. Once again, lyrics are nearly meaningless to me, so that might explain why.
― pomenitul, Thursday, 30 May 2019 22:48 (five years ago) link
Not a big national fan but they don’t evoke my loathing like “vampire weekend” does
― calstars, Thursday, 30 May 2019 22:53 (five years ago) link
all 'indie' music is just an absolute affront
― lumen (esby), Thursday, 30 May 2019 22:53 (five years ago) link
sad dad music to me is Dan Fogelberg and “leader of the band”, which my dad would sadly listen to. (I have no opinion on the national)
― omar little, Thursday, 30 May 2019 22:57 (five years ago) link
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― blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Thursday, 30 May 2019 23:33 (five years ago) link
brave
― Jeff the grown man (voodoo chili), Thursday, 30 May 2019 23:39 (five years ago) link
Wtf is an edge lord?
― calstars
the entire genre of "power electronics"
if imago is going to come back to this thread time and again like a dog to his vomit i'm at least going to try to mix it up with my own mean-spirited complaints every once in a while
― Flood-Resistant Mirror-Drilling Machine (rushomancy), Thursday, 30 May 2019 23:46 (five years ago) link
― omar little
wait, "leader of the band" the lewis taylor song? because i like that one.
― Flood-Resistant Mirror-Drilling Machine (rushomancy), Thursday, 30 May 2019 23:47 (five years ago) link
it was smart to draw all these dudes in here, someone close the place up like one of those Ghostbusters traps
― alpine static, Friday, 31 May 2019 03:44 (five years ago) link
so you can have your little anodyne paradise
― imago, Friday, 31 May 2019 08:45 (five years ago) link
This is the quarantine, the sanatorium where the afflicted undertake scream therapy to overcome their critical condition.
― pomenitul, Friday, 31 May 2019 10:01 (five years ago) link
indeed
― imago, Friday, 31 May 2019 10:04 (five years ago) link
As a side note, 'If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all' is a proverb that has very little currency in certain other cultures, where people are subconsciously encouraged to express their opinion even (at times especially) when it is negative.
― pomenitul, Friday, 31 May 2019 10:04 (five years ago) link
by "certain other cultures" do you mean the entirety of the internet
― Flood-Resistant Mirror-Drilling Machine (rushomancy), Friday, 31 May 2019 10:12 (five years ago) link
I mean longstanding cultures where that happens irl as well.
― pomenitul, Friday, 31 May 2019 10:17 (five years ago) link
Btw, what's so awful about power electronics?
― pomenitul, Friday, 31 May 2019 10:19 (five years ago) link
Aside from the fact that it's awful in the archaic sense.
― pomenitul, Friday, 31 May 2019 10:20 (five years ago) link
This thread is fairly polite considering how much totally shit music gets an easy ride on ILX these days.
― FernandoHierro, Friday, 31 May 2019 10:37 (five years ago) link