thread to dis hyped releases that you don't get/don't like/wanna complain about

I guess it could be argued “indie” as a genre in terms of marketing has been co-opted by this “Morning Becomes Eclectic” NPR type of very basic competent morning commute dadrock.

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ilm likes shit indie now, currently and retrospectively. the same need to feel clever hasn't gone away so that's the board.

i didn't say "to humanity", garbage indie is an affront TO ME. eat a fuckin steak some of you

tbh some of the shit people like now isn't even indie, not that defending the word is worth any effort. just shit commercial rock of the kind that the entire board would have laughed at when people who actually follow pop and alternative music, of many kinds, were the dominant voices.

"fourth-rate David Byrne sans any interesting lyrics" seems like a solid take imo

"“Morning Becomes Eclectic” NPR type of very basic competent morning commute dadrock" also OTM

I have never knowingly heard The Strokes, Interpol, The Arcade Fire, The National, The 1975, or Vampire Weekend, and I plan to keep it that way

There's some good music in there, but the overall mellowing of rock music has been a disaster overall.

Feel free to mentally drop one "overall"

i'd say The Strokes are worth a listen

inoffensive pap

certainly seems to offend some...

― Jeff the grown man (voodoo chili), Friday, May 31, 2019 9:40 AM (five hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it offends me insomuch as it takes no risks. it isn't sexy, it isn't surprising, it isn't riotous, it isn't weird, it isn't catchy. it's just competent, as others have said above. that should be offensive.

i'd say The Strokes are worth a listen

the same need to feel clever hasn't gone away so that's the board.

^^ real life lol

widescreen big emotions rock music for grinning fans holding their arms aloft eyes closed for the perfect instagram pic is a genre i'm generally not down with, which is hypocritical because i like U2.

it offends me insomuch as it takes no risks. it isn't sexy, it isn't surprising, it isn't riotous, it isn't weird, it isn't catchy. it's just competent, as others have said above. that should be offensive.

― blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Friday, May 31, 2019 5:45 PM (fifty-five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

The hugeness of “indie” as a genre/marketing category/whatever inherently make broad generalizations like this silly.

Like idk what commonalities you can find between something like Liars or Deerhoof and something like Vampire Weekend but if you’re a hater then you’re a hater

lol brimstead, I'm on your side man

xp I don’t think the “indie” haters are taking about “indie rock”

I'm an edge Lorde.

some xposts to voodoo chili: i'm not talking about Liars, Old Time Relijun, or whatever other bands like that. post 2004 or so, there became a huge divide in terms of what can be described as "indie" and what the industry peddled as "indie."

i like The Mountain Goats, Oneida, and a bunch of other shit from that time. hell, i still listen to GGD, and blast Excepter on the regular.

but every band i mentioned is a far cry from the NPR and commercial ready stuff that is regularly called "indie" these days.

(i am aware that when i say, "shit from that time," i am dating myself and acting as if some of those groups didn't keep producing music. i know they have, i just stopped paying attention).

Btw, what's so awful about power electronics?

― pomenitul

the exact same things that are awful about edgelords, imo

" Once again, lyrics are nearly meaningless to me, so that might explain why." what?

My argument is that vw doesn’t honor the fire

Can't honor the fire if you don't have the fire

I think current economic conditions in the US make it difficult to be in a band if you aren't independently wealthy. You get a bunch of bands full of people who have led very comfortable lives who make comfortable music with little edge.

ILM has shown me that there's still lots of good rock coming out of Australia. Don't know if anyone on here can comment on whether it's more feasible for people to have bands over there.

I think current economic conditions in the US make it difficult to be in a band if you aren't independently wealthy. You get a bunch of bands full of people who have led very comfortable lives who make comfortable music with little edge.

― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, May 31, 2019 10:26 PM (twenty-three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm

don’t indie bands just have day jobs, like always? Quit shit job to go on tour, get another shit job when you get back?

Maybe so, but I suspect even that option is more limited than it once was. The possibility to have a band and be sustained by a record label is basically gone.

^
I blame myself

Revisiting this discussion is worse than, er, “indie”.:.

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" Once again, lyrics are nearly meaningless to me, so that might explain why." what?

Well said

I don't think that coming from a comfortable or even privileged background necessarily means that someone has to make comfortable music with no edge, fwiw, cf. Stravinsky, Boulez, Stockhausen, Miles Davis, Henry Kaiser, ...

(Admittedly, some of those lived through a world war.)

ymmv but as far as i'm concerned being born black in america in 1926 disqualifies one from being "comfortable" or "privileged" no matter how much money your family has

Cecil Percival T was another avant-garde powerhouse from a quite comfortable m/c background iirc.

I should have probably just said "wealthy".

taylor swift delenda est

FEATURING

eighteen tracks for that maximised streaming revenue

those dead, dead eyes

nothing that hasn't been carefully considered for social media impact

zero actual good music

poptimism rightly won but sometimes it has to be reminded of its weaknesses

and honeys, I will NOT tone it down for Taytay! *meaningful look to camera*

no one is exactly hyping that record up lj

lol I was gonna say!

yes this is fatuous venting but hatred is rarely dignified

as recompense i will listen to the Madonna album

lmao i'm already here for whatever your reaction to "dark ballet" will be

theres a gas station near me that i regularly use and they have those TVs at every pump to entertain you while you stand there for a minute, and they haven't updated them since the end of 2018. So every time I go to fill 'er up i hear a story about Taylor Swift's instagram photos of her and her squad and what they dressed up as for Halloween. I guess one of them dressed as Ms Frizzle from Magic Schoolbus, who knows which one, it will never matter.

TS’ new single “all my happiness is gone” b/w “darkness and cold”

I don't think that coming from a comfortable or even privileged background necessarily means that someone has to make comfortable music with no edge, fwiw, cf. Stravinsky, Boulez, Stockhausen, Miles Davis, Henry Kaiser, ...

Stockhausen's father was a schoolteacher - he was hardly Scelsi.

and honeys, I will NOT tone it down for Taytay! *meaningful look to camera*

You need to calm down.

The Madonna album is not good, it is in fact bad

(despite the charmingly wacky left-turn in Dark Ballet and some passably ok house music)