thread to dis hyped releases that you don't get/don't like/wanna complain about

I think current economic conditions in the US make it difficult to be in a band if you aren't independently wealthy. You get a bunch of bands full of people who have led very comfortable lives who make comfortable music with little edge.

ILM has shown me that there's still lots of good rock coming out of Australia. Don't know if anyone on here can comment on whether it's more feasible for people to have bands over there.

I think current economic conditions in the US make it difficult to be in a band if you aren't independently wealthy. You get a bunch of bands full of people who have led very comfortable lives who make comfortable music with little edge.

― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, May 31, 2019 10:26 PM (twenty-three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm

don’t indie bands just have day jobs, like always? Quit shit job to go on tour, get another shit job when you get back?

Maybe so, but I suspect even that option is more limited than it once was. The possibility to have a band and be sustained by a record label is basically gone.

^
I blame myself

Revisiting this discussion is worse than, er, “indie”.:.

17 Indie Artists on Their Oddest Odd Jobs That Pay the Bills When Music Doesn’t (not a poll)

" Once again, lyrics are nearly meaningless to me, so that might explain why." what?

Well said

I don't think that coming from a comfortable or even privileged background necessarily means that someone has to make comfortable music with no edge, fwiw, cf. Stravinsky, Boulez, Stockhausen, Miles Davis, Henry Kaiser, ...

(Admittedly, some of those lived through a world war.)

ymmv but as far as i'm concerned being born black in america in 1926 disqualifies one from being "comfortable" or "privileged" no matter how much money your family has

Cecil Percival T was another avant-garde powerhouse from a quite comfortable m/c background iirc.

I should have probably just said "wealthy".

taylor swift delenda est

FEATURING

eighteen tracks for that maximised streaming revenue

those dead, dead eyes

nothing that hasn't been carefully considered for social media impact

zero actual good music

poptimism rightly won but sometimes it has to be reminded of its weaknesses

and honeys, I will NOT tone it down for Taytay! *meaningful look to camera*

no one is exactly hyping that record up lj

lol I was gonna say!

yes this is fatuous venting but hatred is rarely dignified

as recompense i will listen to the Madonna album

lmao i'm already here for whatever your reaction to "dark ballet" will be

theres a gas station near me that i regularly use and they have those TVs at every pump to entertain you while you stand there for a minute, and they haven't updated them since the end of 2018. So every time I go to fill 'er up i hear a story about Taylor Swift's instagram photos of her and her squad and what they dressed up as for Halloween. I guess one of them dressed as Ms Frizzle from Magic Schoolbus, who knows which one, it will never matter.

TS’ new single “all my happiness is gone” b/w “darkness and cold”

I don't think that coming from a comfortable or even privileged background necessarily means that someone has to make comfortable music with no edge, fwiw, cf. Stravinsky, Boulez, Stockhausen, Miles Davis, Henry Kaiser, ...

Stockhausen's father was a schoolteacher - he was hardly Scelsi.

and honeys, I will NOT tone it down for Taytay! *meaningful look to camera*

You need to calm down.

The Madonna album is not good, it is in fact bad

(despite the charmingly wacky left-turn in Dark Ballet and some passably ok house music)

Madonna hasn't released anything good since "Hung Up," and even that was mostly good because of the ABBA sample and Stuart Price's production.

oh god

can't decipher which this one is about

it's always HAIM lol. listened to the new one without watching the video and it's just a dreamier version of the usual IDGIcore. but i really just bumped this for show, i don't have much to say, you guys do you, see you in the eoys etc etc

was sure you meant the remastered Oh, God! soundtrack

lj you will never be alone in hating haim on ilm

lool xp

and yeah obviously there's much more hyped and much more hated, this is mere pageantry. kind of regret it. maybe i'll move onto a real enemy

I'd never heard of this band but this is generic trash, and PTA's video shoves it even deeper towards the bottom of the bin. Savage Garden was much better than this tbh.

see?

pom and i are rockist assholes by ilx standards tho :P

there was a lot of wailing that one year they placed on the top 77 three times

I secretly wish Tuomas would post to this thread every time an ILXor extols the virtues of a recent guitar-led song or album.

Idk about the later stuff but “If I could change your mind” is irresistible

yeah, sugar were pretty good

RIGHT

let's liveblog this

fair warning: this isn't going to go well

opening track legitimately v good, there was one bit that felt ripped off from Dominique Leone of this parish but yeah can't complain, melodies and structure striking and on point

second track, that you're all seemingly gaga about, is nothing the Fiery Furnaces haven't done so much better

3: annoying even before the completely artless kate bush reference

4: starting to work out what my problem with this is. it's the whole cabaret jazz-singing lolrandom wackiness. not that she's Amanda Palmer but it isn't a million miles off. the homemade percussion is a bit lolrandom too - it'd be better if the instruments were being used to do something more interesting compositionally, but the arrangements themselves appear to be the interest factor. bring back that opening track ffs

5: *insert clapping emoji between every word*

oh god is this still going

6: well, this is one of the catchiest ones so far at least, although it contains some of the most irritating Winehouse-isms yet, and the lyrics are far too...sassy? cutesy? precious? yeah i know i must sound like an asshole rn given the actually-serious themes of male badness and suffering hinted at throughout the album but this is an album people are describing as an experimental leap-forward for art-pop and so i have to counter that canard as fervently as is required, them's the rules, soz

7: this is sounding much more like it - there's something going on musically that's a bit more substantial this time. less energy spent on flexing all the jazzy vocal mannerisms and more on building a narrative and a momentum. the first track since the opener that i've really liked. nice use of backing vocals and the homemade percussion works well

8: *insert clapping emoji between every word*

we def needed more soft-liberal npr mithering in our lives eh right. the music is dull as hell too - sheer upright-bass pablum

9: there's a cool vocal harmony in the chorus, not getting the transcendence tho. yeah she's still hitting her cutlery drawer and that's cool w/e

10: the lyrics in the chorus are making me cringe! i do not get what people are hearing in this to go 'omg these lyrics are the best', it's all so sickly and bad-twee! it's all signifiers without substance! apparently she is worth $14 million and this track feels like a good place to mention this idk. at least she's mostly dialled-back the vocal jazz hands. oh except that semi-whispered thing near the end puts my fucking teeth on edge

11: *clapping emoji between every word* fgti's tune-yards (sorry, I mean tUnE-YaRdS!1!!1!) comparison getting truer with each song. oh it doubled tempo, give the album 10.0!!

ah this is the track where she talks about that. ok fine. men are bastards, we knew this tho

12: the vocal harmonies are just irritating here, but i guess that's cabaret. i guess cabaret is the best music now. ffs.

13: finally doing away with melodies entirely, pointing towards a bright future where all music is just tweets

IN SUMMARY

a generous 5/10 for 'i want you to love me' and 'newspapers' alone, the rest is bilge

please only reply if ur sympathetic to my cause

ty

lol I was waiting for this. Agreed, for the most part (am too lazy to explain why right now). The Idler Wheel remains her best album.

yeah sorry, but what the fuck

also, given the thread revival, i have to add Thundercat to the list.
i have tried several times with each of his albums.
do. not. get. it.

Tl;dr: too many words, and Broadway ruins everything.

oh i can't stand most of thundercat's records mark e, i'm with you there xp

i'm gonna spend the rest of my day being mad at the complete meaninglessness of the phrase "sheer upright-bass pablum"

if you don't want to actually hear the record then don't listen to it

what the fuck i love thundercat

lol i don't really

but idk that phrase was meant to capture the kind of soft-jazz ennui i experienced listening to that song, game of opinions innit. i'm still the heel sometimes yknow

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Brad, this thread is your Achilles’ heel, I’d avoid us negative folk when we’re in the mood for a bitchin’ if I were you.