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a lot of the production makes me think of, like, sunset strip hair metal... a good thing

or, like, hysteria. i haven’t actually ever listened to hysteria

Re: Kompakt, yeah, a lot of it is not too exciting, but that's been true of dance and club music since... forever?

my favorite underrated Kompakt dude? Jurgen Paape. i wouldn't say i normally like stuff that could be described as "muscular," but i love this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJm72_Mo1ps

Rickie Lee Jones's best album is The Magazine

Tab.......25 > Dopesmoker

the band are yacht rock

Madonna's music is bad and Madonna in general is an embarrassingly lame human being

I feel that way about many (most?) pop stars, but not Madonna

She means a lot to my spouse but, yeah, I'm often mystified by what people seem to get out of most of her work, especially since the 80s. "Live to Tell" is cool, though.

Some great singles and a solid album (Ray of Light). Good enough in my book.

the band are yacht rock

― mark s

not really but this def is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuqFmG9Lp30

I’d rather listen to the worst Limp Bizkit album than the best Joe Satriani album. But I’d also prefer to pour mercury from a broken thermometer into my ears than to listen to a full Satriani album.

brian eno should retire.

Hard to say whether that's a genuinely controversial opinion, Moka. I'm on board with it, though.

Indeed. It is probably more controversial to think that "The Crush of Love" is a classic single, which I do.

Wouldn't call it classic, but it's one of his better pieces, yeah.

Madonna is a better songwriter than Paul McCartney.

Not a Beatles fanatic by any means but nah.

I feel like there has been a drift over the last couple of decades where consensus has gone from "every note Bon Jovi ever recorded is completely worthless" to "some Bon Jovi tracks / LPs are actually good" and I cant help feeling that this is a symptom of a greater moral decline.

Joe Satriani and many of his ilk of late 80s guitar mag shredders are underrated

So is Limp Bizkit.

bon jovi has some jams. cross road is a decent greatest hits album

it isn't that their music is unbearable, it's just that if their whole discography were to be deleted, nothing of value would have been lost. i don't get why people would use their limited time on earth listening to them when there is other music available.

you mean The Beatles yeah?

THANK YOU

They should make an alternate reality movie about what the world would be like if there never was a Bon Jovi.

Sounds fine, would be a bit annoying explaining why they were bad, but I'd get over it.

what the world would be like if there never was a Bon Jovi.

https://frinkiac.com/img/S04E21/888169.jpg

We'd have a thread called "Every huge artist has their "For Those About to Rock-- We Salute You" - a huge event album that ultimately feels a bit hollow & signals a career decline"

it isn't that their music is unbearable, it's just that if their whole discography were to be deleted, nothing of value would have been lost. i don't get why people would use their limited time on earth listening to them when there is other music available.

― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, June 21, 2019 9:59 AM (one week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

you mean The Beatles yeah?

― nashwan, Friday, June 21, 2019 10:03 AM (one week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

THANK YOU

― Rory end to the lowenbrow (Noodle Vague), Friday, June 21, 2019 10:15 AM (one week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this whole exchange gives me life. I don't hate the Beatles nor do I hate Bon Jovi, but I'd rather hear Bon Jovi than the Beatles about 99% of the time. of course, i'd rather not hear either of them because they're both kind of trash, but at least Bon Jovi is real trash.

the Rolling Thunder Revue is great if you like overplaying and coked-up shouting

hmm well i *do* like rock and roll music...

This opinion isn't controversial.

That is precisely why I haven't watched it, as a matter of fact.

Based on their first album, Magma are an okay-ish band.

the best replacements song is TMBG's "hi we're the replacements"

More or less, it seems to me over recent years that:

- ilx needs to be convinced they shouldn't automatically hate an indie act they heard about
- ilx needs to be convinced they shouldn't automatically like a pop act they heard about

Just an impression I have; I don't have enough citations to back that up in a debate at the moment

What about indie pop?

Under my anecdotal premise I guess I feel like that leans towards "automatically like" generally as well? IDK

Speaking purely personally, I have heard enough indie guitar music to last me a lifetime, and any new music of this sort has to be either very good or very novel to not seem like a total waste of time.

always happy to oblige!

I was convinced I'd get more pushback for making generalizations like this. Was inspired by the Car Seat Headrest discussions. Everyone on ilx seems to want to give that guy a swirly.

the phrase "indie landfill" came about for a reason. the bar there is so, so low compared to pop music, which is as brutal and cutthroat a competition as one gets.

"moondance" would be a much, much better record if only van morrison had had the good sense to excise the title track

which is trash

I think it's a good album with or without "Moondance". Not quite as good as "Tupelo Honey" though (the album, not the song).

I enjoy the song, but it is a bit corny and out of place on there.

Queen is overrated.

I like ketchup but a tablespoon of it is enough. Queen is, like, an entire cup of ketchup.

The Police were mainly brilliant

Cirith Ungol's vocalist sounds like he's been trying to shit for 20 years