no one is exactly hyping that record up lj
― american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 14 June 2019 17:52 (five years ago) link
lol I was gonna say!
― Ambient Police (sleeve), Friday, 14 June 2019 17:53 (five years ago) link
yes this is fatuous venting but hatred is rarely dignified
― imago, Friday, 14 June 2019 17:53 (five years ago) link
as recompense i will listen to the Madonna album
― imago, Friday, 14 June 2019 17:54 (five years ago) link
lmao i'm already here for whatever your reaction to "dark ballet" will be
― american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 14 June 2019 17:55 (five years ago) link
theres a gas station near me that i regularly use and they have those TVs at every pump to entertain you while you stand there for a minute, and they haven't updated them since the end of 2018. So every time I go to fill 'er up i hear a story about Taylor Swift's instagram photos of her and her squad and what they dressed up as for Halloween. I guess one of them dressed as Ms Frizzle from Magic Schoolbus, who knows which one, it will never matter.
― omar little, Friday, 14 June 2019 17:55 (five years ago) link
TS’ new single “all my happiness is gone” b/w “darkness and cold”
― calstars, Friday, 14 June 2019 18:03 (five years ago) link
I don't think that coming from a comfortable or even privileged background necessarily means that someone has to make comfortable music with no edge, fwiw, cf. Stravinsky, Boulez, Stockhausen, Miles Davis, Henry Kaiser, ...
Stockhausen's father was a schoolteacher - he was hardly Scelsi.
― John Harris is a Guardian columnist (Tom D.), Friday, 14 June 2019 18:22 (five years ago) link
and honeys, I will NOT tone it down for Taytay! *meaningful look to camera*
You need to calm down.
― Theodor Adorno, perhaps the greatest philosopher alive today (morrisp), Friday, 14 June 2019 18:32 (five years ago) link
The Madonna album is not good, it is in fact bad
(despite the charmingly wacky left-turn in Dark Ballet and some passably ok house music)
― change display name (Jordan), Friday, 14 June 2019 18:52 (five years ago) link
Madonna hasn't released anything good since "Hung Up," and even that was mostly good because of the ABBA sample and Stuart Price's production.
― blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Friday, 14 June 2019 20:27 (five years ago) link
oh god
― imago, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 20:26 (four years ago) link
can't decipher which this one is about
― american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 30 October 2019 20:28 (four years ago) link
it's always HAIM lol. listened to the new one without watching the video and it's just a dreamier version of the usual IDGIcore. but i really just bumped this for show, i don't have much to say, you guys do you, see you in the eoys etc etc
― imago, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 20:40 (four years ago) link
was sure you meant the remastered Oh, God! soundtrack
― Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 30 October 2019 20:41 (four years ago) link
lj you will never be alone in hating haim on ilm
― american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 30 October 2019 20:42 (four years ago) link
lool xp
― imago, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 20:42 (four years ago) link
and yeah obviously there's much more hyped and much more hated, this is mere pageantry. kind of regret it. maybe i'll move onto a real enemy
― imago, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 20:46 (four years ago) link
I'd never heard of this band but this is generic trash, and PTA's video shoves it even deeper towards the bottom of the bin. Savage Garden was much better than this tbh.
― pomenitul, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 20:46 (four years ago) link
see?
― american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 30 October 2019 20:47 (four years ago) link
pom and i are rockist assholes by ilx standards tho :P
― imago, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 20:49 (four years ago) link
there was a lot of wailing that one year they placed on the top 77 three times
― american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 30 October 2019 20:50 (four years ago) link
I secretly wish Tuomas would post to this thread every time an ILXor extols the virtues of a recent guitar-led song or album.
― pomenitul, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 20:55 (four years ago) link
Idk about the later stuff but “If I could change your mind” is irresistible
― brimstead, Friday, 1 November 2019 00:33 (four years ago) link
yeah, sugar were pretty good
― tantric societal collapse (rushomancy), Friday, 1 November 2019 00:38 (four years ago) link
RIGHT
let's liveblog this
fair warning: this isn't going to go well
opening track legitimately v good, there was one bit that felt ripped off from Dominique Leone of this parish but yeah can't complain, melodies and structure striking and on point
second track, that you're all seemingly gaga about, is nothing the Fiery Furnaces haven't done so much better
3: annoying even before the completely artless kate bush reference
4: starting to work out what my problem with this is. it's the whole cabaret jazz-singing lolrandom wackiness. not that she's Amanda Palmer but it isn't a million miles off. the homemade percussion is a bit lolrandom too - it'd be better if the instruments were being used to do something more interesting compositionally, but the arrangements themselves appear to be the interest factor. bring back that opening track ffs
5: *insert clapping emoji between every word*
oh god is this still going
6: well, this is one of the catchiest ones so far at least, although it contains some of the most irritating Winehouse-isms yet, and the lyrics are far too...sassy? cutesy? precious? yeah i know i must sound like an asshole rn given the actually-serious themes of male badness and suffering hinted at throughout the album but this is an album people are describing as an experimental leap-forward for art-pop and so i have to counter that canard as fervently as is required, them's the rules, soz
7: this is sounding much more like it - there's something going on musically that's a bit more substantial this time. less energy spent on flexing all the jazzy vocal mannerisms and more on building a narrative and a momentum. the first track since the opener that i've really liked. nice use of backing vocals and the homemade percussion works well
8: *insert clapping emoji between every word*
we def needed more soft-liberal npr mithering in our lives eh right. the music is dull as hell too - sheer upright-bass pablum
9: there's a cool vocal harmony in the chorus, not getting the transcendence tho. yeah she's still hitting her cutlery drawer and that's cool w/e
10: the lyrics in the chorus are making me cringe! i do not get what people are hearing in this to go 'omg these lyrics are the best', it's all so sickly and bad-twee! it's all signifiers without substance! apparently she is worth $14 million and this track feels like a good place to mention this idk. at least she's mostly dialled-back the vocal jazz hands. oh except that semi-whispered thing near the end puts my fucking teeth on edge
11: *clapping emoji between every word* fgti's tune-yards (sorry, I mean tUnE-YaRdS!1!!1!) comparison getting truer with each song. oh it doubled tempo, give the album 10.0!!
ah this is the track where she talks about that. ok fine. men are bastards, we knew this tho
12: the vocal harmonies are just irritating here, but i guess that's cabaret. i guess cabaret is the best music now. ffs.
13: finally doing away with melodies entirely, pointing towards a bright future where all music is just tweets
IN SUMMARY
a generous 5/10 for 'i want you to love me' and 'newspapers' alone, the rest is bilge
please only reply if ur sympathetic to my cause
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― when I come out, can you introduce me as Jagger (imago), Saturday, 18 April 2020 17:19 (four years ago) link
lol I was waiting for this. Agreed, for the most part (am too lazy to explain why right now). The Idler Wheel remains her best album.
― coviderunt omnes (pomenitul), Saturday, 18 April 2020 17:24 (four years ago) link
yeah sorry, but what the fuck
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 18 April 2020 17:36 (four years ago) link
also, given the thread revival, i have to add Thundercat to the list.i have tried several times with each of his albums.do. not. get. it.
― mark e, Saturday, 18 April 2020 17:37 (four years ago) link
Tl;dr: too many words, and Broadway ruins everything.
― coviderunt omnes (pomenitul), Saturday, 18 April 2020 17:38 (four years ago) link
oh i can't stand most of thundercat's records mark e, i'm with you there xp
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 18 April 2020 17:38 (four years ago) link
i'm gonna spend the rest of my day being mad at the complete meaninglessness of the phrase "sheer upright-bass pablum"
if you don't want to actually hear the record then don't listen to it
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 18 April 2020 17:39 (four years ago) link
what the fuck i love thundercat
lol i don't really
but idk that phrase was meant to capture the kind of soft-jazz ennui i experienced listening to that song, game of opinions innit. i'm still the heel sometimes yknow
― when I come out, can you introduce me as Jagger (imago), Saturday, 18 April 2020 17:40 (four years ago) link
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Brad, this thread is your Achilles’ heel, I’d avoid us negative folk when we’re in the mood for a bitchin’ if I were you.
― coviderunt omnes (pomenitul), Saturday, 18 April 2020 17:41 (four years ago) link
also when Ladies started I was as receptive as I was at any point during the listen-through (which I did absent of any other activity) as the best song on the album had just occurred
albeit the opening vocal dampened my anticipation slightly
― when I come out, can you introduce me as Jagger (imago), Saturday, 18 April 2020 17:42 (four years ago) link
a liveblog where anything that occurs in the music that's beyond your limited horizons can be dismissed outright as "winehouse-isms" "clapping emoji" "tweets": it's so obvious that these are your projections and you're incapable of hearing beyond them
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 18 April 2020 17:42 (four years ago) link
listen, i *always* get mad when people who supposedly love music can't listen to it
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 18 April 2020 17:43 (four years ago) link
maybe my mistake was to listen too intently - this might have worked better in the background
― when I come out, can you introduce me as Jagger (imago), Saturday, 18 April 2020 17:45 (four years ago) link
No such thing as love without hate amirite.
― coviderunt omnes (pomenitul), Saturday, 18 April 2020 17:47 (four years ago) link
i'd usually not give this record much thought and would even speak approvingly when 'newspaper' appeared in the EOY traxpoll (although at this rate the whole damn album will) but i will never not stand up against the pitchfork-industrial complex
― when I come out, can you introduce me as Jagger (imago), Saturday, 18 April 2020 17:50 (four years ago) link
Apparently I've never been tempted to click on the thread about this. Good instinct?
― I've got my bidet and my pills (Noel Emits), Saturday, 18 April 2020 18:04 (four years ago) link
it is a very positive thread without any dissent so in that regard it is a place of health and cheer, this was the wrong thread to click lol
― when I come out, can you introduce me as Jagger (imago), Saturday, 18 April 2020 18:08 (four years ago) link
nothing the Fiery Furnaces haven't done so much betterThe Furnaces are an interesting comparison point for this album — particularly I’m Going Away (which, in the spirit of this thread, I find more appealing in both songwriting and performance... but that’s a matter of taste, of course).
― I eat fast foods (morrisp), Saturday, 18 April 2020 19:26 (four years ago) link
I wasn't going to check this LP out but now I am, thanks lj.
― Wuhan!! Got You All in Check (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 18 April 2020 19:36 (four years ago) link
any record lj goes out of his way to hate on is a record i feel like i need to hear
i like some of the albums that he likes but i _really_ like a lot of the records he loudly and mean-spiritedly dunks on
― Kate (rushomancy), Saturday, 18 April 2020 19:57 (four years ago) link
when the pawn is so so much better than this and i'm probably never gonna listen to the new one again. but am happy that a few ilxors love it so much, good luck to em. liked the new laura marling better as well tbh.
― oscar bravo, Saturday, 18 April 2020 19:59 (four years ago) link
not heard the FA yet but my god the fact that anyone likes Thundercat at all is a testament to the range and diversity of human life and taste in this univese
― boxedjoy, Saturday, 18 April 2020 20:06 (four years ago) link
Thundercat and tune-yards have both made brilliant music, can I use this thread to dis this thread which I don't get/don't like/wanna complain about?
― Wuhan!! Got You All in Check (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 18 April 2020 20:09 (four years ago) link
dissing is a relay sport
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 18 April 2020 20:10 (four years ago) link