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For the curious, here is what an expert witness for the rap artists -- musicologist Todd Decker -- testified on Friday (as reported in Law 360):

For this suit, Decker said he listened to Gray's 2008 song "Joyful Noise" and Perry's 2013 song "Dark Horse" back to back "countless times" before plunking notes out on a piano to try to figure out any similar-sounding patterns between the two songs. He eventually isolated an eight-note melodic phrase beginning with four C-notes and two B-notes that he said seemed to indicate some musical borrowing on the part of Perry's songwriters.

Decker said the melody for both phrases sits on the same note for four beats before descending in pitch. The phrases also have a similar timbre — or distinctive quality of sound — using synthesized sounds to create a "pingy," artificial sound in the beat, Decker explained.

Even the texture of the sound in the phrases, such as the number of instruments being used, is unusually "empty," Decker said, with both introducing their beats in isolation.

Despite the phrases ending with two different notes, Decker said "Dark Horse" uses a similar dip down in pitch to end the ostinato. Decker also noted that even though "Joyful Noise" is written in the key of A and "Dark Horse" is written in B-flat, that's only a difference of a half step.

the last Berry La Croix in the work fridge (morrisp), Monday, 22 July 2019 18:05 (five years ago) link

Update: Dr. Luke and Henry Walter aka Cirkut, two of the Perry songwriters and defendants in this case (along with Max Martin, Sarah Hudson, and others), testified today that they had never heard the "Joyful Noise" track, and detailed the process through which they had created the "Dark Horse" beat. Meanwhile, a security guard confronted a knife-wielding man outside the courthouse, and shot him in one of his hands.

the last Berry La Croix in the work fridge (morrisp), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 23:23 (five years ago) link

Message To My Girl by Split Enz - Wichita Lineman
The Teachers Are Afraid Of The Pupils by Morrissey sounds like In Every Dream Home A Heartache by Roxy Music

soref, Thursday, 25 July 2019 13:15 (five years ago) link

Whoa -- the jury just ruled against Katy Perry and the "Dark Horse" songwriting team.

the last Berry La Croix in the work fridge (morrisp), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 00:25 (five years ago) link

In the damages phase of the trial, the defendants have now been ordered to pay a combined $2.7 million (about 6.5% of the song's revenue).

Here endeth my court reporting.

the last Berry La Croix in the work fridge (morrisp), Thursday, 1 August 2019 23:26 (five years ago) link

Alex G - Gretel has almost the same riff as Stone Temple Pilots - Plush

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 2 August 2019 20:42 (five years ago) link

R.E.M.’s “So. Central Rain” sounds like a distant cousin of “Don’t Fear the Reaper.”

60... 90... 120 Minute IPA (morrisp), Friday, 2 August 2019 22:34 (five years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ytoUuO-qvg

MaresNest, Saturday, 3 August 2019 18:21 (five years ago) link

Yeah it sounds like they plan to appeal.

60... 90... 120 Minute IPA (morrisp), Saturday, 3 August 2019 18:22 (five years ago) link

Dark Horse ”pingy tone” is more similar to Art of Noise - moments in love imho. That video is great.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 3 August 2019 19:23 (five years ago) link

The one maresnest posted I mean

✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 3 August 2019 19:24 (five years ago) link

R.E.M.’s “So. Central Rain” sounds like a distant cousin of “Don’t Fear the Reaper.”

Ha, yes, the opening riffs - arpeggios around open chords. R.E.M. about 15 BPM faster.

timellison, Saturday, 3 August 2019 19:34 (five years ago) link

For a long time, I've heard "Reaper" as kinda sounding like "So You Want to Be a Rock and Roll Star."

timellison, Saturday, 3 August 2019 19:35 (five years ago) link

"Driver 8" sounds like "Don't Fear The Reaper."

― Stranded In the Jungle Groove (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, February 23, 2013 2:53 PM (six years ago)

hmm, I never noticed that before. I feel like they both must descend from Zouzou's 'Puisque tu es revenu'.

― garfield drops some dank n' dirty dubz at 2am (unregistered), Sunday, February 24, 2013 3:58 PM (six years ago)

hoostanbank de reason lyrics mp4 hd video download (unregistered), Saturday, 3 August 2019 20:29 (five years ago) link

Huh... teasing out the R.E.M./BÖC nexus.

60... 90... 120 Minute IPA (morrisp), Saturday, 3 August 2019 23:08 (five years ago) link

“Lady Godiva’s Operation”/“Born on the Bayou”

U or Astro-U? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 4 August 2019 06:44 (five years ago) link

the verse of "rhinestone cowboy" always has me singing "hoist up the john b sail!"

jakey mo collier (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 6 August 2019 15:09 (five years ago) link

For a long time, I've heard "Reaper" as kinda sounding like "So You Want to Be a Rock and Roll Star."

― timellison, Saturday, August 3, 2019 3:35 PM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink

ooooo otm

flappy bird, Sunday, 11 August 2019 05:25 (five years ago) link

two weeks pass...

l’Arc~En~Ciel "Love Flies" (1999)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEo9v2pkRMQ
(esp the solo starting at 2m37s onward)

Dinosaur Jr. "Water" (1991)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3rh8xlm228

I initially was trying to figure out what Built To Spill song I thought the l'Arc song was ripping off but then I realized that it's almost the same chord progression as the Dinosaur song.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 29 August 2019 18:51 (five years ago) link

two weeks pass...

this could be only in my head, but

catherine wheel 'black metallic' and counting crows 'hanginaround'

mookieproof, Saturday, 14 September 2019 19:48 (five years ago) link

“Lawman” by Girl Band is the best cover of Pretty Woman.

El Tomboto, Monday, 16 September 2019 16:56 (five years ago) link

three weeks pass...

'Rhinestone Cowboy' = 'Sloop John B'
(Glen Campbell was in the Beach Boys for a short amount of time)

'Money Money Money' = 'The Oompa Loompa Song' from Charlie and the Chocolate Factory

frame casual (dog latin), Wednesday, 9 October 2019 10:57 (five years ago) link

Oh... we said the first one just upthread

frame casual (dog latin), Wednesday, 9 October 2019 10:57 (five years ago) link

Brownstone - If You Love Me
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Plaid - Manyme

frame casual (dog latin), Wednesday, 9 October 2019 15:24 (five years ago) link

Camila Cabello - "Cry for Me" and The Jimi Hendrix Experience - "All Along the Watchtower"

daavid, Friday, 18 October 2019 20:37 (five years ago) link

On Pavement's "Carrot Rope" (1999) Malkmus sings this little melodic lick on the chorus that goes "explaining that you are worthwhile" that sounds like a direct cop of:

Lilys - "Year Of The Monkey", the part that Kurt sings "I could always look a hypocrite baby... Pay no mind".

Although this could be me exposing my rather embarrassing Beatles/Lennon blind spot... sounds like it could be a Rubber Soul/Revolver nick.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Saturday, 19 October 2019 04:11 (five years ago) link

Lilys song is from 1994.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Saturday, 19 October 2019 04:12 (five years ago) link

also it's the Carrot Rope PRE-chorus...

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Saturday, 19 October 2019 04:12 (five years ago) link

Thin Lizzy - Waiting for an Alibi
Rick Springfield - Jessie's Girl

drunk on hot toddies (morrisp), Monday, 21 October 2019 18:01 (five years ago) link

Only just this week realized that Talk by Coldplay seemed so familiar somehow because I did already know it as Computer Love by Kraftwerk.

Manitobiloba (Kim), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 01:50 (five years ago) link

dababy - intro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ce1lTmRtIkM
rick ross - apple of my eye ft raphael saadiq
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAThXmJF1ac

de-mamba mentality (Spottie), Friday, 1 November 2019 17:55 (five years ago) link

https://chaptermusic.bandcamp.com/track/runaway

Sounds a lot like Love Will Tear Us Apart

Evan, Friday, 1 November 2019 18:28 (five years ago) link

that's a good one, spottie

kanye kendrick frank kendrick frank kanye (voodoo chili), Friday, 1 November 2019 18:35 (five years ago) link

that apple of my eye beat really a whole different class than the dababy one.

de-mamba mentality (Spottie), Friday, 1 November 2019 18:37 (five years ago) link

The main melodic line of King Crimson's "Talk to the Wind" is a rip-off of Michelle by the Beatles.

walking towards the sun since 2007 (alex in mainhattan), Friday, 8 November 2019 21:39 (five years ago) link

that apple of my eye beat really a whole different class than the dababy one.

― de-mamba mentality (Spottie), Friday, November 1, 2019 1:37 PM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink

fun fact friday, the guy who produced that beat currently plays for the cleveland browns: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chad_Thomas

kanye kendrick frank kendrick frank kanye (voodoo chili), Friday, 8 November 2019 21:43 (five years ago) link

the intros of R.E.M.'s "Find the River" and Nick Drake's "Northern Sky"

Number None, Sunday, 10 November 2019 20:12 (five years ago) link

i'm sure people have noted the similarities between the dukes of stratosphear's 'vanishing girl' and 'the lion sleeps tonight,' but today i was also struck by the fact that the chorus melody bears striking similarity to 'seeing other people' by belle & sebastian

kanye kendrick frank kendrick frank kanye (voodoo chili), Thursday, 14 November 2019 20:00 (five years ago) link

surprised this hasn't been mentioned yet:

Gene Clark's "Strength of Strings" is very, very similar to Neil Young's "Words"

Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Thursday, 14 November 2019 20:22 (five years ago) link

Billy Ocean - Red Light Spells Danger

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dW66keO8Iew

Belle and Sebastian - Sleep the Clock Around

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mB8V9Lz7u0

YOU CALL THIS JOURNALSIM? (dog latin), Monday, 18 November 2019 10:13 (four years ago) link

Pretenders - I'll Stand By You

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maAyfcO-X3k

Bonnie Tyler - It's a Heartache

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPOy7TPjfkE

YOU CALL THIS JOURNALSIM? (dog latin), Monday, 18 November 2019 10:21 (four years ago) link

Tom Waits' "Fish & Bird" practically quotes the melody of "Somewhere" from West Side Story (the "There's a place for us" part), which Waits had also recorded earlier.

punning display, Monday, 18 November 2019 16:46 (four years ago) link

Randy Rhoads' solo on Quiet Riot's "Slick Black Cadillac" is just the intro to "Love -> Building On Fire"!

Agnes Motörhead (rushomancy), Sunday, 24 November 2019 21:29 (four years ago) link

Sister riffs: Rolling Stones, "It Must Be Hell" / Michael Jackson, "Black or White"

FODMAP of the reef (morrisp), Monday, 25 November 2019 23:22 (four years ago) link

the theme music for the cartoon series Extreme Dinosaurs sounds like 'All She Wants to Do Is Dance' by extreme classic rock dinosaur Don Henley

deepchord presents echosmith (unregistered), Monday, 2 December 2019 20:29 (four years ago) link

Godflesh "Mothra" and Helmet "Rude" are at least similar enough to turn into a medley in my head

"Third of the Storms" Jazz (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Monday, 16 December 2019 09:17 (four years ago) link

Christmas song 'In Dulci Jubilo' (Mike Oldfield's version) sounds like the children's nursery rhyme 'One Finger, One Thumb, Keep Moving'

YOU CALL THIS JOURNALSIM? (dog latin), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 13:54 (four years ago) link

DARE by the Gorillaz is just Fantasy by Mariah Carey slowed down
the chorus of Stupid horse sounds really similar to the theme tune of What's new, Scooby doo?
i dont remember what made me think this, but i feel like Never had the balls by Rex Orange County and Hounds Of Love by Kate Bush could mix real easy

GotToGeIt, Tuesday, 17 December 2019 20:26 (four years ago) link

DARE by the Gorillaz is just Fantasy by Mariah Carey slowed down

Can you spell this out? I'm not getting it

kinder, Tuesday, 17 December 2019 21:02 (four years ago) link

The chorus of CCR's "Wrote a Song for Everyone" closely echoes the chorus of "The Weight" in both melody and lyrical structure. So closely that I thought it must be commonly recognized, but I couldn't find any reference to it.

Wrote a song for everyone,
Wrote a song for truth.
Wrote a song for everyone
And I couldn't even talk to you.

Take a load off, Fanny
Take a load for free
Take a load off, Fanny
And you put the load right on me

punning display, Thursday, 19 December 2019 20:39 (four years ago) link


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