taylor swift iridescent smoke bombs thread 2019 - lover

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Brad's review of 'Red' is possibly the best piece of music writing I read this year.

https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/taylor-swift-red/

Nourry, Monday, 19 August 2019 11:27 (five years ago) link

if you'd told me there was a Chan Marshall credit on "Lover" I'd have believed you.

Simon H., Tuesday, 20 August 2019 03:55 (five years ago) link

thank you nourry <3

american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 20 August 2019 17:02 (five years ago) link

apparently the "hey kids! spelling is fun!" bit is removed from the album version of "me!" lol

ufo, Wednesday, 21 August 2019 23:51 (five years ago) link

WTF?? That was the best part of the song!!!

Mr. Snrub, Thursday, 22 August 2019 00:16 (five years ago) link

I have apparently been schooled w/r/t my skepticism of this idea (when it was floated earlier): https://www.billboard.com/articles/business/8527959/taylor-swift-re-record-old-songs-regain-control-scooter-braun

Stub yr toe on the yacht rock (morrisp), Thursday, 22 August 2019 01:48 (five years ago) link

Pitchfork will have to review the albums all over again! LOL

Stub yr toe on the yacht rock (morrisp), Thursday, 22 August 2019 01:49 (five years ago) link

Taylor been hanging out w/Jeff Lynne, Squeeze, and Prince's ghost, I see.

frustration and wonky passion (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 22 August 2019 03:38 (five years ago) link

Sounds like she may have to wait 5 years from each album’s release to redo its songs (depending on the actual particulars of her contract): https://variety.com/2019/music/news/taylor-swift-scooter-braun-re-record-big-machine-songs-explained-1203309904/

Stub yr toe on the yacht rock (morrisp), Thursday, 22 August 2019 04:06 (five years ago) link

LOL that would mean she can currently re-record everything through to 1989.

Tim F, Thursday, 22 August 2019 06:37 (five years ago) link

Look What You Made Me Do (Again)

frustration and wonky passion (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 22 August 2019 07:43 (five years ago) link

Doesn't everybody leave their Christmas lights up until January?

☮ (peace, man), Thursday, 22 August 2019 12:38 (five years ago) link

“cruel summer” is amazing

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 22 August 2019 19:25 (five years ago) link

her idea of pop music has been updated but is still kinda bland from a production perspective

J0rdan S., Thursday, 22 August 2019 19:27 (five years ago) link

I'm not sure Taylor Swift is who I ever would expect modern pop production from at this point

This album is definitely good and better than the singles portended, not sure where it ranks among her post-Red catalog yet

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Thursday, 22 August 2019 19:31 (five years ago) link

I think I have tickets for the “private” show here in Paris next month? she’s playing the Olympia, a 2000 seat venue. she’s only played one show here ever, on the Speak Now tour, besides promos (which this one is too, though they’re making a few tickets available for the public).

L'assie (Euler), Thursday, 22 August 2019 19:48 (five years ago) link

did it leak?

Nourry, Thursday, 22 August 2019 20:42 (five years ago) link

Not that I'm aware of.

For sure the production ain't fresh. "False God" sounds like it could've been recorded by Carly Rae Jepsen in 2011.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 22 August 2019 20:49 (five years ago) link

"if i was man / then i'd be the man" ... not really her best writing...

J0rdan S., Thursday, 22 August 2019 21:00 (five years ago) link

It leaked a couple of hours ago

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Thursday, 22 August 2019 21:08 (five years ago) link

this album gets good at paper hearts i think... too many H&M beats in the first half

J0rdan S., Thursday, 22 August 2019 21:37 (five years ago) link

Yeah, the bridge is really weak

I agree the bridge sucks, which is funny because I heard T.Swift say in a recent interview(?) that "Lover" is/might be her favorite song she's ever written, and that she loves writing good bridges and she was really proud of the bridge on this one.

ilxor, Friday, 23 August 2019 00:45 (five years ago) link

I do miss the Cornelia Street Cafe.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 23 August 2019 00:49 (five years ago) link

Is that meant for this thread?

TS: “8:05” vs. “905” (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 23 August 2019 01:24 (five years ago) link

The album has a song called "Cornelia Street," observed from a car.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 23 August 2019 01:34 (five years ago) link

Oh, okay. I thought maybe you meant to post to Redd's Roster of Restaurants of the Old Weird New York

TS: “8:05” vs. “905” (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 23 August 2019 01:35 (five years ago) link

fucking hell "London Boy."

She sounds like Madonna in 2001 hitting a pub for the first time. The song is in part about being a tourist but lol.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 23 August 2019 01:51 (five years ago) link

it's really bad

J0rdan S., Friday, 23 August 2019 02:46 (five years ago) link

it's too soon for declarations, but I'll make one: this album has a lot of tired-ass shit on it.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 23 August 2019 02:47 (five years ago) link

on first listen this has its moments ("cruel summer" was the standout) but it's mostly so so bland. it's not as dire as "me!" suggested at least but is pretty in line with how dull the "you need to calm down" verses are.

ufo, Friday, 23 August 2019 03:00 (five years ago) link

"Cruel Summer" and "London Boy" and I was almost thinking this was a tribute to the Terry Hall/Belinda Carlisle romance somehow in a roundabout way. I would think that.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 23 August 2019 04:25 (five years ago) link

"if i was a man / then i'd be the man" ... not really her best writing...

"If I Were a Boy" it ain't.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 23 August 2019 04:34 (five years ago) link

I played 5-6 tracks on the drive home tonight. I really dug the spunky, poper-pop/new wave style in "Paper Rings," it easily stood out. The rest kinda blended together.

ilxor, Friday, 23 August 2019 04:54 (five years ago) link

power-pop* — obviously.

ilxor, Friday, 23 August 2019 04:55 (five years ago) link

Okay now that I've HEARD "London Boy," I'm still trying to process my exact reaction.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 23 August 2019 05:01 (five years ago) link

as with reputation there's...potentially a listenable album somewhere in here but Marie Kondo needs to come in and clean out a whole lot of it

monotony, Friday, 23 August 2019 05:13 (five years ago) link

"I Think He Knows" and "False God" are both really good

monotony, Friday, 23 August 2019 05:13 (five years ago) link

London Boy; basically this (9:00 onwards)

https://youtu.be/5NnOAl7eU_4

piscesx, Friday, 23 August 2019 05:37 (five years ago) link

I had to stop midway through the first chorus of “Paper Rings”

josh winters (josh), Friday, 23 August 2019 06:55 (five years ago) link

"I Think He Knows" and "False God" are both really good

― monotony, Thursday, August 22, 2019 10:13 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

Definitely the closest things to good songs on this

josh winters (josh), Friday, 23 August 2019 07:47 (five years ago) link

pfft “soon you’ll get better” is wonderful

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 23 August 2019 13:28 (five years ago) link

People comparing her Twitter to Hillary Clinton! Wow!

flamboyant goon tie included, Friday, 23 August 2019 13:55 (five years ago) link

"cruel summer", "i think he knows", "paper rings", "soon you'll get better" and "death by a thousand cuts" are all quite good which is enough to put this above reputation for me

ufo, Friday, 23 August 2019 13:57 (five years ago) link

"false god" doesn't quite lean enough into its sophisti vibes to work for me, the production lets it down

ufo, Friday, 23 August 2019 13:58 (five years ago) link

I need to clear my head with the new Raphael Saadiq.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 23 August 2019 13:59 (five years ago) link

I'm far more interested in hearing about the Big Machine/Scooter Braun merger than her new album.

https://www.bigmachinelabelgroup.com/news/so-its-time-some-truth

I really want to read more about what Big Machine was offering Taylor to stay, and why she decided to leave. It is weird that Borchetta would be highly disclosive about so many little aspects of closing this merger, but not specific about what Big Machine was offering Taylor to stay. Like, he's posting a screenshot from the negotiation, but he's not getting specific about what Taylor turned down?

flamboyant goon tie included, Friday, 23 August 2019 14:06 (five years ago) link

wtf is "London Boy"

brigadier pudding (DJP), Friday, 23 August 2019 16:34 (five years ago) link

It's no "American Boy"

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 23 August 2019 16:35 (five years ago) link

Did someone give her the encyclopedia entry for London and say "write a love song about this" or something

brigadier pudding (DJP), Friday, 23 August 2019 16:36 (five years ago) link

"You said you wanted a banger."

Ned Raggett, Friday, 23 August 2019 16:40 (five years ago) link


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