taylor swift iridescent smoke bombs thread 2019 - lover

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"new romantics" has been the opener on my edited 1989 tracklist since release

ufo, Thursday, 29 August 2019 04:15 (five years ago) link

I think experiencing "Welcome to New York" in concert made me like it more than I should. Hearing 60,000 or so people sing along to it in a Boston suburb was a real treat. "New Romantics" would've been an excellent opener! Hate that it was relegated to the bonus tracks.

Wally P. Doyle, Thursday, 29 August 2019 04:20 (five years ago) link

It at least could have replaced “I Know Places" (that album’s bum track).

Stub yr toe on the yacht rock (morrisp), Thursday, 29 August 2019 05:12 (five years ago) link

Remove both tracks and add in "You Are In Love".

Tim F, Thursday, 29 August 2019 05:13 (five years ago) link

London Boy isn't as bad as people are saying it is

otm

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 29 August 2019 05:20 (five years ago) link

The "London Boy (A to Zedd Remix)" is gonna be ace!

Wally P. Doyle, Thursday, 29 August 2019 05:25 (five years ago) link

She could have at least got J Hus to jump on there or something

Number None, Thursday, 29 August 2019 07:19 (five years ago) link

There's still time.

Simon H., Thursday, 29 August 2019 08:23 (five years ago) link

I've tried liking "Daylight," and while it's nice it feels as if she and Antonoff put it at the end because it's slow enough to feel like a closer or something instead of a retread.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 29 August 2019 10:42 (five years ago) link

^The bridge is terrific though; it makes the song! (Don’t know why so much bridge tawk for this album...)

Stub yr toe on the yacht rock (morrisp), Thursday, 29 August 2019 14:10 (five years ago) link

Oh fuck I love tracks 2-15 so much I haven't been able to get to the end of this album for days.

cpl593H, Thursday, 29 August 2019 15:27 (five years ago) link

she has become very good at singing "darling"

L'assie (Euler), Friday, 30 August 2019 13:10 (five years ago) link

her performance of "Lover" at the VMAs was really quite something. I know the crowd was full of fellow celebs but it was still pretty powerful to see so many people at an awards show vibing on the same thing in a seemingly genuine way, especially for a song that hadn't been out two weeks but that everyone was already treating like a staple.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Friday, 30 August 2019 13:19 (five years ago) link

I’ve never been a huge Taylor fan, but I’m really liking the sadder/more anxious songs on this album. I like how under all the candy-colored happiness there’s this consistent undercurrent of fear that she’s going to screw it up and it’s all going to go away.

Lily Dale, Saturday, 31 August 2019 19:59 (five years ago) link

i love this album

american bradass (BradNelson), Saturday, 31 August 2019 20:00 (five years ago) link

Yeah I’m in deep too

L'assie (Euler), Saturday, 31 August 2019 22:00 (five years ago) link

Currently obsessed with “I Think He Knows”. By 16th Avenue does she mean Music Row or is that some significant New York or London reference?

L'assie (Euler), Saturday, 31 August 2019 22:02 (five years ago) link

she's a big fan of the nuttery
https://thenutteryny.com/about-us

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Saturday, 31 August 2019 22:43 (five years ago) link

"cornelia street" might be the best version of the breathy synthy kinda song she's started writing since 1989

J0rdan S., Saturday, 31 August 2019 23:00 (five years ago) link

‘i forgot that you existed’ is my #breakupgoals

flopson, Sunday, 1 September 2019 02:11 (five years ago) link

i agree that ‘if i was a man, id be the man’ is a bad lyric... but it’s also otm

flopson, Sunday, 1 September 2019 02:55 (five years ago) link

‘calm down’ and ‘ME!’ are 2 of the worst songs on here, and prob some of the worst of her career imo. ‘lover’ is fantastic, such a great chorus

flopson, Sunday, 1 September 2019 03:02 (five years ago) link

I’m at that point I reach with Taylor Swift albums, where some songs still sound awesome to me, but others have suddenly become skippable (“The Man,” “The Archer”...).

Sorry to clutter yr watchlist with my junk (morrisp), Sunday, 1 September 2019 18:55 (five years ago) link

Archer must be skipped unless you want to spend the next 20 minutes staring out the nearest rain-streaked window

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 1 September 2019 19:28 (five years ago) link

"cornelia street" might be the best version of the breathy synthy kinda song she's started writing since 1989

Yeah, it kind of is. It's like she finally managed to marry those vibes with the diaristic/narrative idiosyncrasy that was so integral to classic-TS.

cpl593H, Monday, 2 September 2019 13:29 (five years ago) link

so "Holy Ground"

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 2 September 2019 13:37 (five years ago) link

Live Lounge:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p07m7pwb

1 London Boy
2 Lover
3 Can't Stop Loving You (Phil Collins cover)
4 Holy Ground
5 The Archer
6 You Need to Calm Down

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 2 September 2019 14:03 (five years ago) link

yess holy ground.

I think at this point I can swallow this album from beginning to end. Which is more than I can say for most.

I can even somewhat enjoy "Me!" here? Am I going too far? Possibly. But it feels so much more earned at Track #16 than as first single. It's like the shallow/simplistic first couple of singles are now part of a more complex whole?

cpl593H, Monday, 2 September 2019 14:20 (five years ago) link

Can't believe she's making a cover version from a Phil Collins 34-point Metacritic album. That's gutsy.

cpl593H, Monday, 2 September 2019 14:28 (five years ago) link

yesss I hope she plays "Holy Ground" at the show here next week

I am really into "Afterglow" and "I Think He Knows" now.

"Death By A Thousand Cuts" sounds she's adapting the Imogen Heap sounds of "Clean" to a poppier song.

L'assie (Euler), Monday, 2 September 2019 14:52 (five years ago) link

I think at this point I can swallow this album from beginning to end. Which is more than I can say for most.

I can even somewhat enjoy "Me!" here? Am I going too far? Possibly.

same on all counts but this was so inevitable for me that i’m suspicious of it. same thing happened with red, i had my own edit and discovered i preferred the sprawl. “me” is a bad song but it’s just kinda this cloud-skipping detour in sequence and it’s fine. i guess, unlike “bad blood,” which i still struggle through, at least it didn’t exactly become a world-blanketing hit

american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, 2 September 2019 16:02 (five years ago) link

even though I like "You Need To Calm Down" and "London Boy" fine enough, I'm enjoying my edit without them (and without "Me!" obviously). I also cut "It's Nice to Have a Friend" because it and "Daylight" are good but seem unnecessary & then I can just start the album over again a little faster.

L'assie (Euler), Monday, 2 September 2019 16:07 (five years ago) link

had a real moment with “daylight” yesterday

also i was talking to a friend about how i’m confused about what i’m supposed to think the verse and chorus are on “death by a thousand cuts.” obv “saying goodbye is etc.” is the chorus but the rest of the song doesn’t feel like verses, just more distorted and desperate unfoldings of the chorus. my friend then made the point that the song’s more like three incredible bridges strung together

american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, 2 September 2019 16:12 (five years ago) link

that sounds right! it's an excellent song

I do like "Daylight" but I'll treat it like a b-side and only indulge periodically, whereas I'm mainlining the rest

L'assie (Euler), Monday, 2 September 2019 16:14 (five years ago) link

Her lyrics can still be, I guess, endearingly clumsy (“Running through rose thorns / I saw the scoreboard / And ran for my life”).

And I like “Paper Rings,” but the details of the relationship don’t track — in the verses, they’re a couple who met on a night out, she was instantly obsessed, and they played “cat and mouse” for a few months before falling hard for each other; and in the chorus, they’re a pair of friends who “accidentally” became lovers?

Sorry to clutter yr watchlist with my junk (morrisp), Monday, 2 September 2019 16:14 (five years ago) link

"You Need To Calm Down" I've warmed to, "ME!" remains a rubber donut, and "Daylight" is a weak closer -- a limper "New Year's Day."

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 2 September 2019 16:19 (five years ago) link

And I like “Paper Rings,” but the details of the relationship don’t track — in the verses, they’re a couple who met on a night out, she was instantly obsessed, and they played “cat and mouse” for a few months before falling hard for each other; and in the chorus, they’re a pair of friends who “accidentally” became lovers?

― Sorry to clutter yr watchlist with my junk (morrisp), Monday, 2 September 2019 16:14 (seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

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imago, Monday, 2 September 2019 16:22 (five years ago) link

imago I am glad you don't like this and the LDR record, because if you did, I would second guess my taste.

L'assie (Euler), Monday, 2 September 2019 16:26 (five years ago) link

i haven't said if i like this yet. but i am listening so i'd imagine i'll be letting you know

imago, Monday, 2 September 2019 16:31 (five years ago) link

opening track has a vocal hook redolent of...xtc of all things

imago, Monday, 2 September 2019 16:32 (five years ago) link

dear god

Sorry to clutter yr watchlist with my junk (morrisp), Monday, 2 September 2019 16:36 (five years ago) link

'church of women' actually ;)

if taytay or antonoff have heard xtc's much-maligned final album i'd be fairly amazed tho

imago, Monday, 2 September 2019 16:38 (five years ago) link

anyway

this album...sounds...much better than other taylor swift albums i've heard, can't hate the music (even if her persona, exemplified by the very end of the opening track, still irritates me)

imago, Monday, 2 September 2019 16:42 (five years ago) link

so cut the HEADLIGHTS
summers a KNIFE
im always waiting for you just to cut to the bone
devils roll the DICE
angels roll their EYES
and if i bleed youll be the last to knoww

johnny crunch, Monday, 2 September 2019 16:44 (five years ago) link

if taytay or antonoff have heard xtc's much-maligned final album i'd be fairly amazed tho

― imago, Monday, September 2, 2019 9:38 AM (nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

it would surprise me zero percent to learn antonoff is a xtc fanboy

american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, 2 September 2019 16:48 (five years ago) link

though the opening track is not antonoff lol

american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, 2 September 2019 16:49 (five years ago) link

so cut the HEADLIGHTS
summers a KNIFE
im always waiting for you just to cut to the bone
devils roll the DICE
angels roll their EYES
and if i bleed youll be the last to knoww


I really like the bridge lyrics:

I'm drunk in the back of the car
And I cried like a baby coming home from the bar
Said, "I'm fine," but it wasn't true
I don't wanna keep secrets just to keep you....

Sorry to clutter yr watchlist with my junk (morrisp), Monday, 2 September 2019 16:53 (five years ago) link

"You Need To Calm Down" I've warmed to, "ME!" remains a rubber donut, and "Daylight" is a weak closer -- a limper "New Year's Day."

Album closers for me: Long Live > Begin Again > Our Song > New Year's Day (these 4 are all really good and I suppose could be interchangeable depending on the mood) > Change > Clean (I just really love Change) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Daylight

“bad blood,” which i still struggle through, at least it didn’t exactly become a world-blanketing hit

Bad blood is still a clunker to me, too. It's sad that for many people, that's what comes to their minds when they think of Swift.

cpl593H, Monday, 2 September 2019 17:15 (five years ago) link

“clean” is her best closer, real heads know

american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, 2 September 2019 17:19 (five years ago) link

i've reached 'london boy'

if she names anywhere south of the thames i'll give it a pass

imago, Monday, 2 September 2019 17:21 (five years ago) link


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