lol, that'd be ... crazy. but i was listening to a live Greendale show recently, and it was sounding pretty good ... long solos on "carmichael" were great.
― tylerw, Monday, 23 September 2019 16:44 (five years ago) link
I...uh I mean STEVE, hadn't listened to Greendale in forever and it was just hitting all the right spots this wknd? Obv it is insane to think it is the best CH lp...obv
― chr1sb3singer, Monday, 23 September 2019 16:50 (five years ago) link
i was thinking that Greendale might the thing in his creative life that neil has committed most heavily to. i mean, it's an album, a movie, a graphic novel, a multimedia tour ... he definitely hasn't tried anything remotely like it since.
― tylerw, Monday, 23 September 2019 19:33 (five years ago) link
PONO
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, 23 September 2019 19:38 (five years ago) link
missed the PONO graphic novel, but I'm sure it's in the archives
― tylerw, Monday, 23 September 2019 19:40 (five years ago) link
I feel like his model train ventures were way more personal and near to him than PONO esp given the connecting to his son's disabilities
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 23 September 2019 20:52 (five years ago) link
I remember seeing a pre-screening of the "Greendale" film at the opera plaza in SF. it was.... innaresting
― Οὖτις, Monday, 23 September 2019 20:59 (five years ago) link
it's pretty doofy but it's pure neil
― tylerw, Monday, 23 September 2019 21:00 (five years ago) link
it's really the lip-syncing that, er, sinks it imo. Just a bad (and unnecessary) aesthetic decision.
― Οὖτις, Monday, 23 September 2019 21:35 (five years ago) link
i was thinking that Greendale might the thing in his creative life that neil has committed most heavily to. i mean, it's an album, a movie, a graphic novel, a multimedia tour ... he definitely hasn't tried anything remotely like it since
and he even released them all, right?
― SHANTY the golden fish portion (stevie), Tuesday, 24 September 2019 11:32 (five years ago) link
he did!https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/G/01/books/rando-ems/greendale-4-large.jpg
― tylerw, Tuesday, 24 September 2019 16:18 (five years ago) link
EARTH, OR WHATEVER YOUR NAME IS
― a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 24 September 2019 16:20 (five years ago) link
~Yerth shook his head in exasperation~
― Sally Jessy (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 24 September 2019 16:21 (five years ago) link
I've only interacted with the album not the ancillary media, within that framework I feel like it succeeds pretty well, story-wise.
It should be noted that weird, rambling "concept" or story records, esp from an artist who doesn't really tread those waters often are 100% my shit, ymmv.
― chr1sb3singer, Tuesday, 24 September 2019 16:25 (five years ago) link
Greendale and Prairie Wind are probably the post-2000 neil albums that I pull out the most often.
I have a friend who still makes fun of me for being excited to see Neil perform on a latenight show when Greendale was out, and he came out and did "Be the Rain" with the whole stage show and props and actors and dancers all over the stage, and it was pretty embarassing
― “Hakuna Matata,” a nihilist philosophy (One Eye Open), Tuesday, 24 September 2019 17:41 (five years ago) link
Neil Young trivia, kind of:
The Brian de Palma movie "The Fury" not only starred Carrie Snodgrass, but it was Daryl Hannah's first movie.
― Hideous Lump, Sunday, 6 October 2019 04:05 (five years ago) link
! What do you mean kind of!?
― dow, Sunday, 6 October 2019 16:19 (five years ago) link
A Man Needs A Maid meets A Man Needs A Mermaid
― a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 6 October 2019 16:21 (five years ago) link
Angry Neil in the studio..:
Watch a glimpse into the Mountain Top Sessions with Crazy Horse recording ‘Colorado’. Out 10/25.Taking care of the music: https://t.co/QBps0Ck5J7‘Colorado’: https://t.co/4atUah0q7P#NeilYoung #NeilYoungArchives #CrazyHorse #Colorado pic.twitter.com/5Di2apkKzu— Neil Young Archives (@NeilYoungNYA) October 7, 2019
― Duke, Monday, 7 October 2019 18:08 (five years ago) link
Cool, I'm in.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 7 October 2019 18:13 (five years ago) link
Yep. Same here
― Duke, Monday, 7 October 2019 20:16 (five years ago) link
love it"This is a band, this is not a recording"
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 7 October 2019 20:20 (five years ago) link
Kinda hope that vibraphone makes an appearance, but I'm doubtful.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 7 October 2019 20:32 (five years ago) link
Though I've got to admit it's more than a little lol that Neil Young, who has exemplified a meat and potatoes approach for 50 years, with one of the most meat and potatoes backing bands of all time, infamous for their meat and potatoes recordings, would yell at the engineer in 2019 that they're not capturing their meat and potatoes loud-band-in-a room sound right.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 9 October 2019 18:42 (five years ago) link
You're makin' our T-Bone sound like hamburger!
― a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 9 October 2019 18:48 (five years ago) link
still extremely jarring to see the horse without poncho :(
― to regain his mental focus, he played video-game golf (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 9 October 2019 18:59 (five years ago) link
there's vibraphone on the new album!
― tylerw, Wednesday, 9 October 2019 19:08 (five years ago) link
xpost Amen :/
― SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Wednesday, 9 October 2019 19:26 (five years ago) link
I am reading Shakey at the moment, and am struck by how often everybody around NY regards Ralphie and Billy as utter clod-hopping stumblebums. Including Neil frequently…Cros in particular can't stand 'em, which is a stupendous recommendation as far as I am concerned…I didn't know before this book that those guys and Danny hadn't been playing instruments for very long before EKTiN…so as much as I often can't believe how rudimentary their playing is live, their harmonizing on the live Tonight's the Night record is exceptional…they sound EXACTLY like that record…
I never heard Landing on water til last week…while I can see that Geffen was setting him up for some Building the Perfect Beast shit with Kootch and that doesn't sit well with Neil stans, I liked it! Also kinda liked Life, which I hadn't heard since 89, but those two are interesting for being the digital/ Synclavier extravaganzas that he would foreswear. Hadn't heard Trans since the 80s either, and that record is fantastic…
― veronica moser, Wednesday, 9 October 2019 20:29 (five years ago) link
and am struck by how often everybody around NY regards Ralphie and Billy as utter clod-hopping stumblebums.
Neil has said that musicians would take him aside and say, "Man, those guys can't play!" Neil's response was always, "Well, they can't play with you." I thought that was perfect.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 9 October 2019 20:38 (five years ago) link
Croz getting on his high (sorry) horse (super sorry) about the Horse's playing is the funniest thing to me and I've sometimes wondered if it had as much to do with Neil treating Billy & Ralph as equals instead of "just" side men rather then their playing, which admittedly can be...loose
― chr1sb3singer, Wednesday, 9 October 2019 20:47 (five years ago) link
Also "Life" is a kinda of a fun/overlooked record, "Prisoners of Rock'n'Roll" is great, though ironic to have the Horse doing a song about "not listening to the record label" while Billy's playing a keytar
― chr1sb3singer, Wednesday, 9 October 2019 20:48 (five years ago) link
"He can play one note on anything!"
― a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 9 October 2019 20:49 (five years ago) link
I don't have an ear for this sort of thing, but I could have sworn a friend of mine (who does have a good ear for this) said Billy hits some pretty wrong notes in a few CH songs, which of course Neil had no problem leaving in!
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 9 October 2019 21:39 (five years ago) link
Croz is such a dumb dickhead I really hate this rehabilitation of him
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 10 October 2019 03:08 (five years ago) link
Is Shakey worth a read? Neil's autobiog was pretty good fun, despite all the Pono/car/model railway talk, I would guess Shakey is significantly less all over the place?
― Captain ACAB (Neil S), Thursday, 10 October 2019 06:28 (five years ago) link
Yes. Shakey has its issues, but is still very much worth your time.
― a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 10 October 2019 06:37 (five years ago) link
yeah, shakey’s essential imo
― to regain his mental focus, he played video-game golf (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 10 October 2019 07:10 (five years ago) link
cheers! you see about it in charity shops now and again, I'll keep an eye out
― Captain ACAB (Neil S), Thursday, 10 October 2019 07:23 (five years ago) link
St long last a good Neil album is coming out (i hope at least)
― nostormo, Thursday, 10 October 2019 10:56 (five years ago) link
xpost The song is " When You Dance I Can Really Love." Apparently the bass is a mess. That's Billy, right?
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 October 2019 12:20 (five years ago) link
"Man, those guys can't play!" Neil's response was always, "Well, they can't play with you."
<3 <3 <3
― sleeve, Thursday, 10 October 2019 13:50 (five years ago) link
Billy is not on that song and not on the whole record…that's Greg Reeves, who had played on deja Vu…the song that immediately comes to mind re: Billy being uproariously out of tune is the version of "Downtown" on the Crazy Horse record (which is fan-fucking-tastic). I had known the live version from TtN since I was 16, and then in 2011 when I found a pristine copy for like $12 at Gimme Gimme in NY in 2010, I was psyched as fuck to hear it, and while it is awesome, one does marvel that Jack Nitzsche, who I don't think subscribed to the "it was meant to be like that, maaannnn" school, didn't fix it. It sounds like his A string is not consonant with his E, D and G strings, in that some notes are okay, but his root is fucked up.
― veronica moser, Thursday, 10 October 2019 14:08 (five years ago) link
Crazy Horse is the band on “when you dance” — the last whitten era studio recording iirc.
― tylerw, Thursday, 10 October 2019 14:11 (five years ago) link
David Briggs pointed out that Talbot made two obvious mistakes on "Lotta Love", and when Nicolette Larson recorded her version, those mistakes were copied by the session bassist, so they are now accepted as part of the song (part of the sheet music etc.).
― a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 10 October 2019 14:26 (five years ago) link
Tyler is correct! In Shakey, Neil sez its Billy, Ralph, Jack and Danny, he sez indeed that it was the last time he recorded with danny…
― veronica moser, Thursday, 10 October 2019 14:33 (five years ago) link
Billy isn't in the band to play the songs correctly, he's in there to yell at Neil to keep him from turning into Stephen Stills
― chr1sb3singer, Thursday, 10 October 2019 15:09 (five years ago) link
And to argue with Ralph about harmonies cf. "Muddy Track"
― chr1sb3singer, Thursday, 10 October 2019 15:10 (five years ago) link
short review of Colorado after a few listens: three terrible songs, seven pretty good songs. not sure if there are any new classics here. quieter stuff might be the strongest.
― tylerw, Thursday, 10 October 2019 16:51 (five years ago) link
assuming there's no Walk Like a Giant on this huh?
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 10 October 2019 16:53 (five years ago) link