NOUGHT BUT THE TRUTH: 2000-2009 albums & tracks VOTING (and campaigning) thread DEADLINE OCTOBER 11

hey my first pass through the albums got me just under 100, not bad

imago at 2:46 25 Sep 19

I'm sure it is.

I think I'll vote for The Meadowlands too.

― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, September 25, 2019 10:06 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

Alfred!!!!

voted

lethal bizzle 'pow' has so many feat artists that it takes up 2 lines on the ballot is this gonna be a problem for tabulation or no?

poll worth it for making me dig out 'run the road' comp for the first time in years.

I nearly nominated Wiley ft. "England 10"'s 'She Likes To' and not that it would've made the 77 but crediting all the MCs featured on tbe track on an image might've been a 'fun' headache too.

Two things:

1. Don't forget to vote for Gravenhurst. 'Hollow Men', his only nominated track, is not his most representative song, but it's awesome. The two nominated albums are undeniable masterpieces.

2. Please pay attention to three late-career / career-ending albums that are very much overlooked and/or underrated: In Prism by Polvo, My Heart Has a Wish That You Would Not Go by Aereogramme and The Rising Tide by Sunny Day Real Estate.

All three contain some of their very best songs:

Polvo:
'Beggar's Bowl'
'Lucia'

Aereogramme:
'A Life Worth Living'
'The Running Man'

Sunny Day Real Estate:
'Snibe'
'The Rising Tide'

will certainly be voting for the rising tide

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I also voted for The Rising Tide. I'm not sure when people started to come around on it but it seemed like it was completely ignored for years

so much to choose from yet I'm still thinking of stuff I forgot to nominate like Lil Kim's "The Jump Off", Kelis' "Caught Out There", the Emancipation of Mimi, and Kylie's Body Language. :(

The Utada Hikaru track "Hikari" should be this one by the way: https://open.spotify.com/track/7CVug9n4FomAqQV4RCunYv?si=JL-bX5eIS8yL8qzrTPR4dg
Or its English version, "Simple and Clean": https://open.spotify.com/track/74ZhWPdUHlVjFmXFD2JOVv?si=fGJ0T9ldQ-KoWzqUxc3Rdw

amended!

Kelis' "Caught Out There"

1999

thanks lj xp

cheers Brad, one less song to feel bad about lol

if nominations were prevented by mischance rather than negligence i suppose i can be lenient. check the nominations list later (or tomorrow) perhaps...

― imago, Wednesday, September 25, 2019 11:21 AM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

do we have a verdict here?

ready to vote, just waiting for this one judgment from the almighty poll-runner

check the nominations list!

I still think its wrong Dopesmoker was denied as its different to Jersusalem, nobody in their right mind would vote for the 1996 version of Jersusalem and most people hadn't heard it. but hey I was ill in bed so couldn't argue its case

Everybody vote Dopethrone instead

Can't remember the last time I've felt dumber for letting something pass me by for so damn long as the Life Without Buildings album. An incredible, mysterious gem.

I still think its wrong Dopesmoker was denied as its different to Jersusalem, nobody in their right mind would vote for the 1996 version of Jersusalem and most people hadn't heard it. but hey I was ill in bed so couldn't argue its case

― Thus Spoke Darraghustra (Oor Neechy), Thursday, September 26, 2019 8:21 AM (three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

i'm sure everyone can use their imagination

oh wait dopesmoker was denied bc it's technically from the '90s? yeah i think that's fair

check the nominations list!

― imago, Thursday, September 26, 2019 10:03 AM (twenty-nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

sweeeeet

I would like to remind everyone to vote for Asa Chang & Junray - Hana.

And Sheets of Easter.

Also La Ritournelle.

Both wouldn't place but am now noticing the 'Progress Reform' EP by I Like Trains and This Will Destroy You's s/t aren't nominated, two records I'd vote for if possible.

Following on from Roz' Utada Hikaru recommendation, some of the Japanese / HK stuff I’ll be voting for:

Puffy – Spike (Japanese Version): Famous in the West for their Cartoon Network show but their English-language songs never came close to doing them justice. Spike was mostly produced by Andy Sturmer from Jellyfish and there’s a strong jangle-pop influence to some of the album but it’s vastly better than his own band’s records. Asia No Junshin and Sumire are particular highlights but the whole thing’s a delight.

Faye Wong – Fable: Grand, sweeping, cinematic pop from HK’s greatest superstar. New Tenant and Chanel

Tommy February6 – Tommy Airline: When Tomoko Kawase left the (very pleasant) indie-pop group The Brilliant Green, she started parallel solo careers as Tommy February6, a jovial, alcoholic J-Pop star and Tommy Heavenly6, her goth counterpart / nemesis. None of this made any sense but the records were superb. Sepia Memory and Je t’aime Je t’aime.

Ayumi Hamasaki – Duty: A huge star, and fashion icon, in Japan for twenty years, it’s easy to overlook how amazing her opening run of albums with Max Matsuura’s Avex Trax label was. She could never really sing but they worked around that with anthemic Eurodance and dramatic, noisy pop. Surreal and Vogue.

Utada Hikaru – Exodus: Although I do like Simple & Clean a lot, I was never a fan of Utada Hikaru until her big attempt to extend her Japanese mega-stardom to the US with Exodus. Exodus 04, produced by Timbaland, and the intricate Kremlin Dusk are two of the best.

just voted and am already filled with regret. (no more regret than usual, i guess).

looking forward to the results.

I've concluded that since paring down to 50 and sorting within those 50 is pretty much impossible it's best to just wing it and embrace the chaos.

Just voted and I literally got a headache after doing so.

i have a lawyer

hahaha

I suspect no-one (esp the poll runner) is in favour of allowing three *add your non-nominated albums/tracks here*? It's not usance in these polls with a decade spanning poll, with stakes so high (lol), would it be a too hard a breach of etiquette to allow, say, three non-nominated entries on the ballot?

(I know a majority probably detests it but I had to try and ask, regardless)

Down to 109 albums. What a decade.

In terms of errors, someone seems to have nominated U2.

omar little is an ilx institution and we all have our reasons iirc

Since we're allowed to post youtubes here I'd like ilxors to give a listen to this title track (its not metal, honest) its synthy goodness that I'm sure a lot of ilxors would like if they were introduced to it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjXlNSlAMXI

There’s a terrible Coldplay album somewhere on the noms too.

Surprised that indie folk popular acts from the 00’s like Bon Iver, Devendra Banhart and Sufjan Stevens were almost completely ignored. I know this is ILM but still.

Oh wait I see the Sufjan albums are all in there, still he’s very underrepresented in the tracks poll. I don’t think I even voted for him, not huge on the songs from Chicago which were the couple of noms. I think his best songs are in seven swans and michigan.

sent! hope i didn't fuck up!

There’s a terrible Coldplay album somewhere on the noms too.

viva la vida is the best coldplay album and i may vote for it

I would have voted for Parachutes had I nominated it or found it on the noms list.

you never meant to cause us trouble

I'd sort kidded myself that Martin became progressively duller, lyric-wise, but christ, I just looked at some of the Parachutes lyrics and that's a slough of despond right there.

In terms of errors, someone seems to have nominated U2

The error was nominating the wrong hated U2 album. I think How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb would make my top 50, maybe All That You Can't Leave Behind in the right mood, but even I can't get behind No Line on the Horizon

viva la vida is easily the best coldplay album but there's no chance it'll make my top 50

htdaab and nloth are both pretty dreadful, easily some of the worst u2 albums, but of the two nloth is at least kinda interesting in places and there's the general feeling of maybe it could have been something worthwhile if they hadn't gotten scared and changed paths halfway through recording

voted.

albums ballot turned out to be relatively painless in the end, but I chickened out and didn't do a weighted ballot for tracks - it was hard enough to compile, let alone rank.

It might be Coldplay’s best but I can’t think of a single reason I’d like to listen to it, let alone vote for it, over 500+ of the noms.

Of interest, I think:

15th anniversary edition of Complex Simplicity is out, with some added tracks. It’s on Spotify as well, from where the original album has been absent for a long time, at least where I live.
https://ratedrnb.com/2019/09/teedra-moses-releases-15th-anniversary-edition-of-complex-simplicity/

no lollipop on the tracks list?

PSA: If voting for DMX 'Party Up' please base it on the original recording / music video version rather than the distinctly inferior version that is on Spotify.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thIVtEOtlWM

VOTED

btw having copied and pasted from the sheet the entry for Studio includes the qualifier still Studio - West Coast / Yearbook 1 -- these are more or less the same album

I voted.

I managed to get the albums into some kind of order. Tracks seemed hopeless, so I did a top 5 then had the rest unweighted. I did one album/track per artist (altho I goofed and included two Jay-Z tracks, oh well), and still I had to cut out some great artists entirely.