xpost The song is " When You Dance I Can Really Love." Apparently the bass is a mess. That's Billy, right?
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 October 2019 12:20 (five years ago) link
"Man, those guys can't play!" Neil's response was always, "Well, they can't play with you."
<3 <3 <3
― sleeve, Thursday, 10 October 2019 13:50 (five years ago) link
Billy is not on that song and not on the whole record…that's Greg Reeves, who had played on deja Vu…the song that immediately comes to mind re: Billy being uproariously out of tune is the version of "Downtown" on the Crazy Horse record (which is fan-fucking-tastic). I had known the live version from TtN since I was 16, and then in 2011 when I found a pristine copy for like $12 at Gimme Gimme in NY in 2010, I was psyched as fuck to hear it, and while it is awesome, one does marvel that Jack Nitzsche, who I don't think subscribed to the "it was meant to be like that, maaannnn" school, didn't fix it. It sounds like his A string is not consonant with his E, D and G strings, in that some notes are okay, but his root is fucked up.
― veronica moser, Thursday, 10 October 2019 14:08 (five years ago) link
Crazy Horse is the band on “when you dance” — the last whitten era studio recording iirc.
― tylerw, Thursday, 10 October 2019 14:11 (five years ago) link
David Briggs pointed out that Talbot made two obvious mistakes on "Lotta Love", and when Nicolette Larson recorded her version, those mistakes were copied by the session bassist, so they are now accepted as part of the song (part of the sheet music etc.).
― a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 10 October 2019 14:26 (five years ago) link
Tyler is correct! In Shakey, Neil sez its Billy, Ralph, Jack and Danny, he sez indeed that it was the last time he recorded with danny…
― veronica moser, Thursday, 10 October 2019 14:33 (five years ago) link
Billy isn't in the band to play the songs correctly, he's in there to yell at Neil to keep him from turning into Stephen Stills
― chr1sb3singer, Thursday, 10 October 2019 15:09 (five years ago) link
And to argue with Ralph about harmonies cf. "Muddy Track"
― chr1sb3singer, Thursday, 10 October 2019 15:10 (five years ago) link
short review of Colorado after a few listens: three terrible songs, seven pretty good songs. not sure if there are any new classics here. quieter stuff might be the strongest.
― tylerw, Thursday, 10 October 2019 16:51 (five years ago) link
assuming there's no Walk Like a Giant on this huh?
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 10 October 2019 16:53 (five years ago) link
more and more Peace Trail I think is his best late period album, had a real unique specific dynamic with the band on that, like the sound and he wrote some really quirky stuff
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 10 October 2019 16:54 (five years ago) link
yeah i like peace trail. colorado is growing on me though -- i thought it was pretty bad at first, but i'm digging the funkier/more intimate feel that comes across on some of the songs. it's less big billowy crazy horse and more small-scale. main problem is some truly bad lyrics.
― tylerw, Thursday, 10 October 2019 17:05 (five years ago) link
unfortunately one of the very bad songs is 13 minutes long ...
― tylerw, Thursday, 10 October 2019 17:15 (five years ago) link
lyrically, he's been pretty bad on the whole for a long time now. every now and then there's a couple well written ones but you gotta just kinda dig it for the sound now
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 10 October 2019 17:24 (five years ago) link
He was never a good lyricist.his power is/was in the melodies, his voice and of course his band. Imo.
― nostormo, Thursday, 10 October 2019 17:41 (five years ago) link
that's crazy talk, Neil has written a lot of great lyrics.
Not many in the last 20 years though.
brb gonna get a hip hop haircut
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 10 October 2019 17:43 (five years ago) link
Example?
― nostormo, Thursday, 10 October 2019 17:45 (five years ago) link
xp he's got a million great lyrics, but yeah, few and far between this century.
― tylerw, Thursday, 10 October 2019 17:46 (five years ago) link
He was much better in everything including lyrica in the 70's but man..I listened to Rust Never Sleeps the other day - The lyrics of Ride My Llama..bad
― nostormo, Thursday, 10 October 2019 17:48 (five years ago) link
welfare mothersmake better lovers
― Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 10 October 2019 17:49 (five years ago) link
VegemiteGirl saw Kelsey Waldon cover "Powderfinger," posted this on Rolling Country
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OXLAeQeUwU&feature=youtu.be
― dow, Thursday, 10 October 2019 17:50 (five years ago) link
― dow, Thursday, 10 October 2019 17:51 (five years ago) link
Why does ilx do this sometimes--anyway the link is on Rolling Country; also check YouTube for Lee Ann Womack's version of "Out on the Weekend."
― dow, Thursday, 10 October 2019 17:53 (five years ago) link
It does show the link when I'm logged out! So maybe log out and paste it---this 'un too (Womack's "out on the Weekend")https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtcx-zv-ijg
― dow, Thursday, 10 October 2019 18:00 (five years ago) link
Tho sometimes I kinda prefer this shorter, simpler live performance---well kindahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ecLa35QvNQ
― dow, Thursday, 10 October 2019 18:01 (five years ago) link
yeah that's a good cover
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 10 October 2019 18:06 (five years ago) link
idk where to start with great Neil lines, there's so many
the "she's put the kid away and she's gone to get a hit/she hates her life and what she's done to itthere's one more kid that'll never go to school/never get to fall in love, never get to be cool" verse always gets me
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 10 October 2019 18:08 (five years ago) link
otm
― sleeve, Thursday, 10 October 2019 18:13 (five years ago) link
Neil has so many great lyricsI'm talking recent years thoughI don't even need them to be great just not so bad as to be distracting which they often are now
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 10 October 2019 18:15 (five years ago) link
"Country Home" has some of my favorite Neil lines; not entirely sure why I dig it so much, though Ragged Glory was the first Neil record I got heavily into.
(In keeping with the spirit of the album -- blacked-out CD booklet where the lyrics had been, because Neil decided at the last minute it was better for listeners to figure them out -- I won't quote the lines.)
And Tonight's The Night...jeez, "Lookout Joe," "Borrowed Tune," "Speakin' Out"...
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 10 October 2019 18:16 (five years ago) link
The saddest thing in the whole wide worldIs to break the heart of your loverI made a mistake and I did it againAnd we struggled to recoverThen I sang in anger, hit another bad chordBut I still try to sing about love and war
― sleeve, Thursday, 10 October 2019 18:17 (five years ago) link
^^ Le Noise, 2010 (his best album of the last 40 years imo)
― sleeve, Thursday, 10 October 2019 18:18 (five years ago) link
i find the lyrics to 'ramada inn' to be pretty devastating (it's also a fuckin' jam with some of my favourite neil electric-playing ever)
― to regain his mental focus, he played video-game golf (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 10 October 2019 18:19 (five years ago) link
anyway this is of course the greatest neil cover ever
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UUH8avj6hs
― to regain his mental focus, he played video-game golf (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 10 October 2019 18:21 (five years ago) link
yeah Ramada Inn is v good lyrically
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 10 October 2019 18:22 (five years ago) link
― sleeve, Thursday, October 10, 2019 2:18 PM (eleven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
Agreed. Well, maybe 30 years. But yeah, this is among my favorite Neil albums ever, and I am not a Lanois fan at all.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 10 October 2019 18:31 (five years ago) link
Guitar teacher and I just gave a close listen and didn't hear any bass clams on "Downtown" (either the Crazy Horse version or the TnT version, though he might have been a tiny bit out of tune on the latter), nor did we hear anything wrong on "Lotta Love" or the Larson cover of same. So ... ?
"When You Dance I Can Really Love" for sure has bum bass notes in it.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 October 2019 21:03 (five years ago) link
recently listened to a live tape where talbot completely forgets what key "don't cry no tears" is in sometime during Neil's solo. it's hilarious.
― tylerw, Thursday, 10 October 2019 21:06 (five years ago) link
i adore many neil young lyrics! too many to rememberspeaking of rockin' in the free world, is he the only person to have a hit featuring lyrics about/the actual words "toilet paper"?
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 10 October 2019 23:31 (five years ago) link
an ambulance can only go so fast
maybe one of my favorite lyrics, period
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Friday, 11 October 2019 00:10 (five years ago) link
New album sounds okay but kind of uninspired. Curious how it compares to Broken Arrow, another relatively uninspired one that I never pull out.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 26 October 2019 18:27 (five years ago) link
Ha. I've just returned from the record shop, where I couldn't resist buying Colorado, despite sensing that I might mildly regret it...
― Duke, Saturday, 26 October 2019 18:40 (five years ago) link
It's not bad, just nothing special. I listened to Psychedelic Pill a couple of times this week, and that one still sounds great.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 26 October 2019 18:43 (five years ago) link
Yeah, I really like Psychedelic Pill.
"Not bad, nothing special" is precisely where my expectations for this one are. Let's see
― Duke, Saturday, 26 October 2019 18:46 (five years ago) link
but haven't those been the expectations for everything he has released for many many years? the last album that kind of knocked me out was ragged glory . live he still kills though. with the old songs of course.
― walking towards the sun since 2007 (alex in mainhattan), Saturday, 26 October 2019 19:03 (five years ago) link
Yes, expectations haven't been high for many years. But albums like PP sometimes exceed them.
― Duke, Saturday, 26 October 2019 19:08 (five years ago) link
this is no Psychedelic Pillother than the fact I find the *sound* of Crazy Horse so pleasurable it's pretty half assed on first blush
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 26 October 2019 19:10 (five years ago) link
Agreed.
A review I read here in a German newspaper put it on an equal footing with "Sleeps With Angels and Tonight's the Night"....
― Duke, Saturday, 26 October 2019 19:34 (five years ago) link
In case Alex is interested...'„Colorado“ ist eine überaus eingängige, widerborstig schöne Platte, die es durchaus mit Klassikern wie „Tonight’s The Night“ oder „Sleeps With Angels“ aufnehmen Mann.'
https://m.tagesspiegel.de/kultur/album-colorado-von-neil-young-jammen-auf-hohem-niveau/25156584.html
― Duke, Saturday, 26 October 2019 19:38 (five years ago) link
Man I love "Broken Arrow" but this new one bites.
― SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 26 October 2019 19:45 (five years ago) link