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xpost The song is " When You Dance I Can Really Love." Apparently the bass is a mess. That's Billy, right?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 October 2019 12:20 (five years ago) link

"Man, those guys can't play!" Neil's response was always, "Well, they can't play with you."

<3 <3 <3

sleeve, Thursday, 10 October 2019 13:50 (five years ago) link

Billy is not on that song and not on the whole record…that's Greg Reeves, who had played on deja Vu…the song that immediately comes to mind re: Billy being uproariously out of tune is the version of "Downtown" on the Crazy Horse record (which is fan-fucking-tastic). I had known the live version from TtN since I was 16, and then in 2011 when I found a pristine copy for like $12 at Gimme Gimme in NY in 2010, I was psyched as fuck to hear it, and while it is awesome, one does marvel that Jack Nitzsche, who I don't think subscribed to the "it was meant to be like that, maaannnn" school, didn't fix it. It sounds like his A string is not consonant with his E, D and G strings, in that some notes are okay, but his root is fucked up.

veronica moser, Thursday, 10 October 2019 14:08 (five years ago) link

Crazy Horse is the band on “when you dance” — the last whitten era studio recording iirc.

tylerw, Thursday, 10 October 2019 14:11 (five years ago) link

David Briggs pointed out that Talbot made two obvious mistakes on "Lotta Love", and when Nicolette Larson recorded her version, those mistakes were copied by the session bassist, so they are now accepted as part of the song (part of the sheet music etc.).

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 10 October 2019 14:26 (five years ago) link

Tyler is correct! In Shakey, Neil sez its Billy, Ralph, Jack and Danny, he sez indeed that it was the last time he recorded with danny…

veronica moser, Thursday, 10 October 2019 14:33 (five years ago) link

Billy isn't in the band to play the songs correctly, he's in there to yell at Neil to keep him from turning into Stephen Stills

chr1sb3singer, Thursday, 10 October 2019 15:09 (five years ago) link

And to argue with Ralph about harmonies cf. "Muddy Track"

chr1sb3singer, Thursday, 10 October 2019 15:10 (five years ago) link

short review of Colorado after a few listens: three terrible songs, seven pretty good songs. not sure if there are any new classics here. quieter stuff might be the strongest.

tylerw, Thursday, 10 October 2019 16:51 (five years ago) link

assuming there's no Walk Like a Giant on this huh?

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 10 October 2019 16:53 (five years ago) link

more and more Peace Trail I think is his best late period album, had a real unique specific dynamic with the band on that, like the sound and he wrote some really quirky stuff

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 10 October 2019 16:54 (five years ago) link

yeah i like peace trail.
colorado is growing on me though -- i thought it was pretty bad at first, but i'm digging the funkier/more intimate feel that comes across on some of the songs. it's less big billowy crazy horse and more small-scale. main problem is some truly bad lyrics.

tylerw, Thursday, 10 October 2019 17:05 (five years ago) link

unfortunately one of the very bad songs is 13 minutes long ...

tylerw, Thursday, 10 October 2019 17:15 (five years ago) link

lyrically, he's been pretty bad on the whole for a long time now. every now and then there's a couple well written ones but you gotta just kinda dig it for the sound now

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 10 October 2019 17:24 (five years ago) link

He was never a good lyricist.his power is/was in the melodies, his voice and of course his band. Imo.

nostormo, Thursday, 10 October 2019 17:41 (five years ago) link

that's crazy talk, Neil has written a lot of great lyrics.

Not many in the last 20 years though.

brb gonna get a hip hop haircut

Οὖτις, Thursday, 10 October 2019 17:43 (five years ago) link

Example?

nostormo, Thursday, 10 October 2019 17:45 (five years ago) link

xp he's got a million great lyrics, but yeah, few and far between this century.

tylerw, Thursday, 10 October 2019 17:46 (five years ago) link

He was much better in everything including lyrica in the 70's but man..
I listened to Rust Never Sleeps the other day - The lyrics of Ride My Llama..bad

nostormo, Thursday, 10 October 2019 17:48 (five years ago) link

welfare mothers
make better lovers

Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 10 October 2019 17:49 (five years ago) link

VegemiteGirl saw Kelsey Waldon cover "Powderfinger," posted this on Rolling Country

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OXLAeQeUwU&feature=youtu.be

dow, Thursday, 10 October 2019 17:50 (five years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OXLAeQeUwU&feature=youtu.be

dow, Thursday, 10 October 2019 17:51 (five years ago) link

Why does ilx do this sometimes--anyway the link is on Rolling Country; also check YouTube for Lee Ann Womack's version of "Out on the Weekend."

dow, Thursday, 10 October 2019 17:53 (five years ago) link

It does show the link when I'm logged out! So maybe log out and paste it---this 'un too (Womack's "out on the Weekend")
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtcx-zv-ijg

dow, Thursday, 10 October 2019 18:00 (five years ago) link

Tho sometimes I kinda prefer this shorter, simpler live performance---well kinda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ecLa35QvNQ

dow, Thursday, 10 October 2019 18:01 (five years ago) link

yeah that's a good cover

Οὖτις, Thursday, 10 October 2019 18:06 (five years ago) link

idk where to start with great Neil lines, there's so many

the "she's put the kid away and she's gone to get a hit/she hates her life and what she's done to it
there's one more kid that'll never go to school/never get to fall in love, never get to be cool" verse always gets me

Οὖτις, Thursday, 10 October 2019 18:08 (five years ago) link

otm

sleeve, Thursday, 10 October 2019 18:13 (five years ago) link

Neil has so many great lyrics
I'm talking recent years though
I don't even need them to be great just not so bad as to be distracting which they often are now

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 10 October 2019 18:15 (five years ago) link

"Country Home" has some of my favorite Neil lines; not entirely sure why I dig it so much, though Ragged Glory was the first Neil record I got heavily into.

(In keeping with the spirit of the album -- blacked-out CD booklet where the lyrics had been, because Neil decided at the last minute it was better for listeners to figure them out -- I won't quote the lines.)

And Tonight's The Night...jeez, "Lookout Joe," "Borrowed Tune," "Speakin' Out"...

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 10 October 2019 18:16 (five years ago) link

The saddest thing in the whole wide world
Is to break the heart of your lover
I made a mistake and I did it again
And we struggled to recover
Then I sang in anger, hit another bad chord
But I still try to sing about love and war

sleeve, Thursday, 10 October 2019 18:17 (five years ago) link

^^ Le Noise, 2010 (his best album of the last 40 years imo)

sleeve, Thursday, 10 October 2019 18:18 (five years ago) link

i find the lyrics to 'ramada inn' to be pretty devastating (it's also a fuckin' jam with some of my favourite neil electric-playing ever)

to regain his mental focus, he played video-game golf (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 10 October 2019 18:19 (five years ago) link

anyway this is of course the greatest neil cover ever

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UUH8avj6hs

to regain his mental focus, he played video-game golf (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 10 October 2019 18:21 (five years ago) link

yeah Ramada Inn is v good lyrically

Οὖτις, Thursday, 10 October 2019 18:22 (five years ago) link

^^ Le Noise, 2010 (his best album of the last 40 years imo)

― sleeve, Thursday, October 10, 2019 2:18 PM (eleven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Agreed. Well, maybe 30 years. But yeah, this is among my favorite Neil albums ever, and I am not a Lanois fan at all.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 10 October 2019 18:31 (five years ago) link

Guitar teacher and I just gave a close listen and didn't hear any bass clams on "Downtown" (either the Crazy Horse version or the TnT version, though he might have been a tiny bit out of tune on the latter), nor did we hear anything wrong on "Lotta Love" or the Larson cover of same. So ... ?

"When You Dance I Can Really Love" for sure has bum bass notes in it.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 October 2019 21:03 (five years ago) link

recently listened to a live tape where talbot completely forgets what key "don't cry no tears" is in sometime during Neil's solo. it's hilarious.

tylerw, Thursday, 10 October 2019 21:06 (five years ago) link

i adore many neil young lyrics! too many to remember
speaking of rockin' in the free world, is he the only person to have a hit featuring lyrics about/the actual words "toilet paper"?

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 10 October 2019 23:31 (five years ago) link

an ambulance can only go so fast

maybe one of my favorite lyrics, period

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Friday, 11 October 2019 00:10 (five years ago) link

two weeks pass...

New album sounds okay but kind of uninspired. Curious how it compares to Broken Arrow, another relatively uninspired one that I never pull out.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 26 October 2019 18:27 (five years ago) link

Ha. I've just returned from the record shop, where I couldn't resist buying Colorado, despite sensing that I might mildly regret it...

Duke, Saturday, 26 October 2019 18:40 (five years ago) link

It's not bad, just nothing special. I listened to Psychedelic Pill a couple of times this week, and that one still sounds great.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 26 October 2019 18:43 (five years ago) link

Yeah, I really like Psychedelic Pill.

"Not bad, nothing special" is precisely where my expectations for this one are. Let's see

Duke, Saturday, 26 October 2019 18:46 (five years ago) link

but haven't those been the expectations for everything he has released for many many years? the last album that kind of knocked me out was ragged glory . live he still kills though. with the old songs of course.

walking towards the sun since 2007 (alex in mainhattan), Saturday, 26 October 2019 19:03 (five years ago) link

Yes, expectations haven't been high for many years. But albums like PP sometimes exceed them.

Duke, Saturday, 26 October 2019 19:08 (five years ago) link

this is no Psychedelic Pill

other than the fact I find the *sound* of Crazy Horse so pleasurable it's pretty half assed on first blush

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 26 October 2019 19:10 (five years ago) link

Agreed.

A review I read here in a German newspaper put it on an equal footing with "Sleeps With Angels and Tonight's the Night"....

Duke, Saturday, 26 October 2019 19:34 (five years ago) link

In case Alex is interested...
'„Colorado“ ist eine überaus eingängige, widerborstig schöne Platte, die es durchaus mit Klassikern wie „Tonight’s The Night“ oder „Sleeps With Angels“ aufnehmen Mann.'

https://m.tagesspiegel.de/kultur/album-colorado-von-neil-young-jammen-auf-hohem-niveau/25156584.html

Duke, Saturday, 26 October 2019 19:38 (five years ago) link

Man I love "Broken Arrow" but this new one bites.

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 26 October 2019 19:45 (five years ago) link


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