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Man I love "Broken Arrow" but this new one bites.

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 26 October 2019 19:45 (five years ago)

thanks, duke. i doubt it. sleeps with angels didn't impress me much. as i said the last album i liked a lot was from 1990. since then lots of ok records and some stinkers.

walking towards the sun since 2007 (alex in mainhattan), Saturday, 26 October 2019 19:55 (five years ago)

just started listening to colorado. it indeed seems ok but pretty boring. she showed me love is about 7 minutes too long. olden days is a snooze fest. the best about it is that it is only 4 minutes long. help me lose my mind is quite nice as it is a little rockier. the next slow song green is blue is a beauty. shut it down is good when it trails off the refrain into improv country which it doesn't do enough. milky way is a sluggish ballad i'd rather not listen to again. eternity is just totally superfluous. i do is better and reminds me of harvest moon, an album which was ok but rather pale in comparison with harvest.

another neil young album one safely do without.

walking towards the sun since 2007 (alex in mainhattan), Saturday, 26 October 2019 20:39 (five years ago)

one safely can do without.

walking towards the sun since 2007 (alex in mainhattan), Saturday, 26 October 2019 20:40 (five years ago)

yeah I made it through, but this is pretty bad
big disappointment, esp because it's probably the last Crazy Horse record

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 26 October 2019 21:23 (five years ago)

almost picked it up yesterday but didn't want to drop that much on the LP til i heard, maybe it's good i didn't. anyway i just really want this dude to get around to reissuing some of those '90s LPs too.

omar little, Saturday, 26 October 2019 21:26 (five years ago)

like there's hardly any solos! there's more piano ballads than jams!

crazy horse is literally only good at one thing

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 26 October 2019 21:33 (five years ago)

Is that Neil playing piano or Nils?

Who knows, maybe there will be another Crazy Horse album. When Americana came out, did anybody know Psychedelic Pill was on its way?

This one is just so uninspired and undercooked. I love later albums like Sleeps with Angels, Americana and Pill, because Neil sounds like he was driven back to the band for a purpose. This one, they sound incidental, there to bring a certain degree of sloppiness to songs that don't quite stand up.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 26 October 2019 21:38 (five years ago)

IIRC, Americana was sort of pitched as openers for an original album cut at the same sessions.

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 26 October 2019 22:18 (five years ago)

Also there was that massive improv jam they put out online before either.

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 26 October 2019 22:20 (five years ago)

Psychedelic Pill stylistically falling between those poles as it happened.

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 26 October 2019 22:22 (five years ago)

Neil needs to do the weirdo Le Noize/weird tape type stuff with Crazy Horse. As with the Dead Man soundtrack, I think at times "you know what this needs...a rhythm section". I would figure this would work and be the ear candy the kids have been wanting to get.

earlnash, Sunday, 27 October 2019 01:08 (five years ago)

I'm so bummed out about this album

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 29 October 2019 01:41 (five years ago)

Feel like this would have been better received as a one of those "surprise! you didn't know it was coming" Neil albums. Having it hyped up for this long, esp with Crazy Horse, allowed expectations to get a little too high I think. Like if this followed six months after another Psychedelic Pill type release, I think this would be approached a little differently. Which isn't to say I think people are underrating this, it's definitely not great.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 29 October 2019 14:18 (five years ago)

That's why I brought up "Broken Arrow." Raging comeback with "Freedom," reunion and tour with Crazy Horse behind "Ragged Glory," "Harvest Moon" and "Mirror Ball" as successful and well received side-ventures, "Sleeps with Angels" a really cool Crazy Horse record. Neil's back and better than ever! And then ... "Broken Arrow," kind of an underwhelming afterthought album.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 14:35 (five years ago)

Makes sense, although I've always loved Broken Arrow, but mostly for it coming really early in my Neil fandom. I grew up with my dad playing him around the house all the time, but never really considered him "mine". But (of course for being 19 at the time), I was really excited when I did an album with Pearl Jam, so Broken Arrow was my third Neil album after Mirror Ball and Decade.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 29 October 2019 14:37 (five years ago)

Mirror Ball was intended to be a surprise, left-field album, its quick turnaround was hamstrung by Epic's meddling.

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 29 October 2019 14:39 (five years ago)

yall are doing Broken Arrow dirty comparing it to this

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 29 October 2019 14:41 (five years ago)

the first song on Broken Arrow is Big Time!

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 29 October 2019 14:42 (five years ago)

Ah but "Broken Arrow" has some sublime stuff, almost touching on shoegaze ("Slip Away"). It's a weird NYCH album but in a very good way.

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 29 October 2019 14:42 (five years ago)

"Broken Arrow" is better than this one, as far as I can remember. The fact that I can't really remember pretty much captures how I feel about "Broken Arrow," give or take a song (again, as far as I remember).

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 14:43 (five years ago)

i ended up liking Colorado a bit more than I expected to after digging in a little more -- might be a grower! "She Showed Me Love," "Shut It Down" and "Rainbow of Colors" are straight up bad, but I enjoy almost everything else. Not a classic by any stretch, but I've been enjoying it. I recommend seeing the doc of the making of the record, kinda puts it all into context + there's plenty of Neil terrorizing his engineer.

tylerw, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 14:56 (five years ago)

and yeah Broken Arrow is great (I do remember being slightly underwhelmed at the time).

tylerw, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 14:56 (five years ago)

Haven't had a chance to spin Colorado yet, but I always loved Broken Arrow, apart from the pointless and half-assed Jimmy Reed cover at the end. I definitely prefer it to Sleeps With Angels, Mirror Ball, and Psychedelic Pill, and it was his last great record until Le Noise (or, depending on my mood, Greendale).

And in looking at his discography, what the hell is Peace Trail? And he made two studio records with Promise Of The Real?! How long have I been asleep?

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 29 October 2019 15:05 (five years ago)

I really liked Promise of the Real as a backing band - despite the terrible name they just hit a good sound/groove imo - but Neil was delivering some of the worst lyrics ever, makes those albums basically unlistenable.

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 15:23 (five years ago)

Peace Trail is maybe my fave from the past few years — good, spare sound with Keltner on drums, some solid songs.

tylerw, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 15:32 (five years ago)

Will definitely check out Peace Trail. And I've never minded the on-the-noseness of the Greendale lyrics, so I may check out the two Promise records, too.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 29 October 2019 15:35 (five years ago)

EARTH definitely has some good moments (but it's mainly just that Neil's guitar remains an insanely glorious thing). Monsanto Years and The Visitor are maybe the worst-ever Neil Young albums. Not really PoTR's fault, just bad songwriting overall.

tylerw, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 15:37 (five years ago)

yeah I enjoyed seeing Neil play with PoTR on tour but those songs were not good. The old songs sounded great.

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 15:39 (five years ago)

oh c'mon Monsanto Years is not THAT bad, it's not exactly good though. "Wolf Moon" sounds like a Harvest Moon outtake and I like it a lot.

Book Doula (sleeve), Tuesday, 29 October 2019 16:04 (five years ago)

Haven't heard the new one yet. I myself thought The Visitor was an improvement over Peace Trail (and certainly over Monsanto - I don't think it's terrible but definitely the weakest of the recent-ish bunch).
EARTH's good - the new song (Seed Justice) blew me away when I heard it live, it's still pretty great on record.
Storytone's beautiful!

Valentijn, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 16:24 (five years ago)

the version of Living With War he released with the choir overdubs removed is a sleeper

I'm#TeamPeaceTrail

I totally forgot about The Visitor

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 29 October 2019 16:26 (five years ago)

i don't trust any of you

It is my great honor to post on this messageboard! (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 29 October 2019 16:28 (five years ago)

trust me Karl, Are You Passionate? is a keeper

L'assie (Euler), Tuesday, 29 October 2019 16:30 (five years ago)

i'm talking 2897 posts of trust, completely broken

It is my great honor to post on this messageboard! (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 29 October 2019 16:36 (five years ago)

i left my heart out there, in the thread. i'm done

It is my great honor to post on this messageboard! (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 29 October 2019 16:37 (five years ago)

you can trust me, karl.
i liked the reveal in the recent wired article that neil lurked on model train message boards in the 1990s under the moniker "Clyde Coil"

tylerw, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 16:51 (five years ago)

hahaha omg

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 29 October 2019 17:18 (five years ago)

http://cs.trains.com/ctt/f/95/p/44008/559323.aspx

???

omar little, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 17:22 (five years ago)

Didn't Neil work with Lionel on some high-tech model train controller designs? I can understand why he'd be cranky on message boards...insofar as I can understand the motivation behind anything else Neil has done.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 29 October 2019 17:34 (five years ago)

i think he was pretty much the president of lionel for a little while there. or at least a part-owner.

tylerw, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 17:35 (five years ago)

I thought he remains a part owner of Lionel? Because one of his sons was really into trains?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 17:41 (five years ago)

yeah he owned a significant interest of Lionel for awhile

it's actually touching he got into it because his son who is very disabled liked to play with them

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 29 October 2019 17:41 (five years ago)

I guess he used to be a minority owner (20%) but now is just a consultant.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 17:42 (five years ago)

I've tried "Colorado" a few times now, always with an open mind, I mean I love "Doghouse" and Greendale fer cryin' out loud I am gonna give Neil a zillion chances and each time I've been stymied by the line "I'm a few bricks short of a load" and had to tap out.

chr1sb3singer, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 18:19 (five years ago)

You know that gesture the frustrated card dealer makes in Casino when Pesci's character is making a huge scene? That's me when I get to that line

chr1sb3singer, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 18:21 (five years ago)

lol

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 18:59 (five years ago)

first listen to Peace Trail today on account of the praise here yesterday, and wow @ the autotune (particularly on "My Pledge"). not a bad album!

L'assie (Euler), Wednesday, 30 October 2019 16:16 (five years ago)

Neil Young hasn't released too many outright bad records, but the mediocrity of many of his records does stick out against his masterpieces, of which he of course has many.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 16:25 (five years ago)

Lol at the dozens of "it's not great but it's sort of ok" reviews of recent NY output just up-thread.

For a revered artist he's put out a considerable amount of crap. Which I suppose is just repeating what Josh just said

Duke, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 20:30 (five years ago)


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