Haven't heard the new one yet. I myself thought The Visitor was an improvement over Peace Trail (and certainly over Monsanto - I don't think it's terrible but definitely the weakest of the recent-ish bunch).EARTH's good - the new song (Seed Justice) blew me away when I heard it live, it's still pretty great on record.Storytone's beautiful!
― Valentijn, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 16:24 (five years ago) link
the version of Living With War he released with the choir overdubs removed is a sleeperI'm#TeamPeaceTrailI totally forgot about The Visitor
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 29 October 2019 16:26 (five years ago) link
i don't trust any of you
― It is my great honor to post on this messageboard! (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 29 October 2019 16:28 (five years ago) link
trust me Karl, Are You Passionate? is a keeper
― L'assie (Euler), Tuesday, 29 October 2019 16:30 (five years ago) link
i'm talking 2897 posts of trust, completely broken
― It is my great honor to post on this messageboard! (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 29 October 2019 16:36 (five years ago) link
i left my heart out there, in the thread. i'm done
― It is my great honor to post on this messageboard! (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 29 October 2019 16:37 (five years ago) link
you can trust me, karl. i liked the reveal in the recent wired article that neil lurked on model train message boards in the 1990s under the moniker "Clyde Coil"
― tylerw, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 16:51 (five years ago) link
hahaha omg
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 29 October 2019 17:18 (five years ago) link
http://cs.trains.com/ctt/f/95/p/44008/559323.aspx
???
― omar little, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 17:22 (five years ago) link
Didn't Neil work with Lionel on some high-tech model train controller designs? I can understand why he'd be cranky on message boards...insofar as I can understand the motivation behind anything else Neil has done.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 29 October 2019 17:34 (five years ago) link
i think he was pretty much the president of lionel for a little while there. or at least a part-owner.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 17:35 (five years ago) link
I thought he remains a part owner of Lionel? Because one of his sons was really into trains?
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 17:41 (five years ago) link
yeah he owned a significant interest of Lionel for awhileit's actually touching he got into it because his son who is very disabled liked to play with them
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 29 October 2019 17:41 (five years ago) link
I guess he used to be a minority owner (20%) but now is just a consultant.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 17:42 (five years ago) link
I've tried "Colorado" a few times now, always with an open mind, I mean I love "Doghouse" and Greendale fer cryin' out loud I am gonna give Neil a zillion chances and each time I've been stymied by the line "I'm a few bricks short of a load" and had to tap out.
― chr1sb3singer, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 18:19 (five years ago) link
You know that gesture the frustrated card dealer makes in Casino when Pesci's character is making a huge scene? That's me when I get to that line
― chr1sb3singer, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 18:21 (five years ago) link
lol
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 18:59 (five years ago) link
first listen to Peace Trail today on account of the praise here yesterday, and wow @ the autotune (particularly on "My Pledge"). not a bad album!
― L'assie (Euler), Wednesday, 30 October 2019 16:16 (five years ago) link
Neil Young hasn't released too many outright bad records, but the mediocrity of many of his records does stick out against his masterpieces, of which he of course has many.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 16:25 (five years ago) link
Lol at the dozens of "it's not great but it's sort of ok" reviews of recent NY output just up-thread.
For a revered artist he's put out a considerable amount of crap. Which I suppose is just repeating what Josh just said
― Duke, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 20:30 (five years ago) link
I'm not yet sure what I think of Colorado. Probably that it's alright, but not great, funnily enough
― Duke, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 20:32 (five years ago) link
haha, i'm definitely guilty of the "it's not great but it's sort of ok" review ... https://aquariumdrunkard.com/2019/10/29/neil-young-and-crazy-horse-colorado/it is interesting to wonder if neil had been on a Dylan schedule for the past 20 years — only four albums of original material?
― tylerw, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 20:34 (five years ago) link
https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/neil-young-crazy-horse-colorado
― Duke, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 20:39 (five years ago) link
Quite like the description : "He solos like something’s buried under the fretboard that he’s trying to dig out."
― Duke, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 20:40 (five years ago) link
Nice review Tyler. You're definitely right about She Showed Me Love..
― Duke, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 20:42 (five years ago) link
damn She Showed Me Love is "only" 13+ minutes long but i'm not sure it isn't an hour.
― omar little, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 20:45 (five years ago) link
yeah, that one is kinda the biggest disappointment because a 13-minute crazy horse song should, by definition, be great. but it really isn't!
― tylerw, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 20:47 (five years ago) link
it's just a real formless blob of a dirge, and usually NY+CH create these really deceptively simple epics in a similar style which have a real journey and the call and response type vocals and harmonies play off each other well and in a non-repetitive way, even though the epics usually have repetitive-seeming elements.
― omar little, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 20:56 (five years ago) link
would forgive the godawful lyrics if the jam at the end got into some interesting zones ...
― tylerw, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 21:19 (five years ago) link
Some jams are potentially epic and ultimately flabby, that’s an unfortunate fact imo
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 31 October 2019 00:24 (five years ago) link
Yeah, but you're supposed to leave those off of your albums. (Especially if you're Neil Young.)
― nickn, Thursday, 31 October 2019 00:48 (five years ago) link
trying to work my way up to Colorado, haven't listened much to Neil's work since like Are You Passionate? (which is a good album dangit) but I've been giving them all a spin these last few days since I can just stream them instead of having to buy, and man the lyrics are tough going. Living With War sounds cool (currently on the with-chorus version even) but the song subjects are just dumb. it wasn't always thus!
― L'assie (Euler), Thursday, 31 October 2019 13:02 (five years ago) link
I actually appreciate Living With War because of its political content and it's the sound that doesn't quite grab me. I find the stripped-down versions on 'Living With War - In The Beginning' much better than those on the normal record, Neil's vocals show more emotion & power on those raw recordings.
― Valentijn, Thursday, 31 October 2019 13:40 (five years ago) link
yeah I'll listen to that version shortly, now moved on to Greendaletrying to steel up for the Monsanto experience
― L'assie (Euler), Thursday, 31 October 2019 13:48 (five years ago) link
I thought I remembered a thread where people tried to make a greatest hits of his post 2000s oeuvre, or was it just a dream?
here are some choices through 2006:
Razor LoveDifferentlyGoin' HomeBanditIt's A DreamFamilies
― L'assie (Euler), Thursday, 31 October 2019 14:52 (five years ago) link
i made a mix of 2000-2009 back in the day that i thought was pretty solid, might need to update ...
― tylerw, Thursday, 31 October 2019 15:18 (five years ago) link
link?
first listen to The Visitor now, and this isn't starting well...
― L'assie (Euler), Thursday, 31 October 2019 15:35 (five years ago) link
i'm afraid the link is long gone! not even sure what hard drive the files are on at this point ... i could probably re-create using spotify (though I think I included an unreleased live version of "Day In The Life" haha)
― tylerw, Thursday, 31 October 2019 15:42 (five years ago) link
I'd happy just to have the song titles you choose, can get all the tunes myself probably
― L'assie (Euler), Thursday, 31 October 2019 15:44 (five years ago) link
The Visitor is the first one of these latter day Neil albums that's a chore to listen to. I mean I didn't like e.g. "Carmichael" on Greendale but this is just dopier all around. I guess the backing singing on "Stand Tall" sounds a little like Danny Whitten maybe?
― L'assie (Euler), Thursday, 31 October 2019 15:45 (five years ago) link
"Big Box" on The Monsanto Years is pretty good
― L'assie (Euler), Thursday, 31 October 2019 17:50 (five years ago) link
THANK YOU
― Book Doula (sleeve), Thursday, 31 October 2019 19:58 (five years ago) link
You're welcome! (I think?)
― L'assie (Euler), Friday, 1 November 2019 16:58 (five years ago) link
Not sure how I feel about Coloradoyet. Overall, it feels like an exercise in trying to break in the Poncho-less Crazy Horse. And it's not like I don't expect (and love) a degree of looseness from Neil, but these aren't just first takes; these are negative-one takes. The first-ever performance of "Rockin' in the Free World" on the '89 Seattle show -- where no one in the band had even heard the song before -- is vastly more cohesive than anything here.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 5 November 2019 18:16 (five years ago) link
Ain’t singing for PepsiAin’t singin for cokeAin’t singing for Bezos
Oh wait
― June Pointer’s Valentine’s Day Secret Admirer Note Author (calstars), Saturday, 9 November 2019 13:54 (five years ago) link
Guess his ranch needs a new wing
― June Pointer’s Valentine’s Day Secret Admirer Note Author (calstars), Saturday, 9 November 2019 13:55 (five years ago) link
wait, what now?
― Paul Ponzi, Saturday, 9 November 2019 18:33 (five years ago) link
he's just shilling for amazon's move into hi-res streaming
― tylerw, Saturday, 9 November 2019 18:39 (five years ago) link
Pono 2.0?
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 9 November 2019 18:47 (five years ago) link
I bet big Bezos had to call Neil personally for this to happen. Imagine the fawning
― June Pointer’s Valentine’s Day Secret Admirer Note Author (calstars), Saturday, 9 November 2019 18:57 (five years ago) link