I mean there’s been a noticeable trend of Enya-house music in the past decade and Grimes was doing variations on it even before this single. I don’t think this is Grimes following trends but rather continuing on a style she had explored previously.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Sunday, 17 November 2019 05:46 (four years ago) link
oh, I'm not saying she's following trends, unless the leaked album (which I haven't heard) is full of idk billie eilish ripoffs
― like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Sunday, 17 November 2019 05:48 (four years ago) link
IDORU could also be referencing the William Gibson novel, which would be on brand with the concept of the album
― octobeard, Monday, 18 November 2019 05:25 (four years ago) link
oh goddamnit I missed mh's comment.
― octobeard, Monday, 18 November 2019 05:34 (four years ago) link
this is....fine? I like it better than most of her stuff but I'm still mystified as to what makes her so distinct from or so much more deserving of hype than loads of other acts working in a similar mode
― Simon H., Monday, 18 November 2019 08:56 (four years ago) link
like who?
― Mordy, Monday, 18 November 2019 14:32 (four years ago) link
Grimes thinks "live music is going to be obsolete soon" https://t.co/S9EnoA3fZM pic.twitter.com/No4Ei9c2CR— BrooklynVegan (@brooklynvegan) November 20, 2019
― self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Thursday, 21 November 2019 16:52 (four years ago) link
says the voice of silicon fascist privilege https://t.co/rsn04V7AyV— ZJ (@ZOLAJESUS) November 21, 2019
her reputation seems to have taken a bit of a hit
― Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Thursday, 21 November 2019 17:11 (four years ago) link
https://images.app.goo.gl/fjaU1BWo6eBVp2i16
― Cousin Slappy, Thursday, 21 November 2019 18:36 (four years ago) link
ppl take her at face value a lot, anyway i enjoy her troll moves tbh
― omar little, Thursday, 21 November 2019 18:40 (four years ago) link
Sure. It's "troll moves" when SHE does it :/
― Cousin Slappy, Thursday, 21 November 2019 18:48 (four years ago) link
get her ass ZJ
― Simon H., Thursday, 21 November 2019 18:49 (four years ago) link
xpost -- and that's the difference between her and Amanda Palmer uh hold on
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 21 November 2019 18:54 (four years ago) link
i believe about 5% of what grimes says about anything even her own intent, it's all pretty entertaining. anyway i like ZJ but grimes >>>>> ZJ
― omar little, Thursday, 21 November 2019 18:57 (four years ago) link
I've listened to and read enough conversations that have made a similar point but not in a value-neutral wayalthough, tbh, with such a dystopian album concept or w/e I guess the commentary is semi-implicitthen again, maybe the dystopia is good?
hmm!
― mh, Thursday, 21 November 2019 19:30 (four years ago) link
I guess she's to be taken seriously not literally like Thiel said about Trump?
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 21 November 2019 21:09 (four years ago) link
the kind of insight only young blood gets you
― Simon H., Thursday, 21 November 2019 22:30 (four years ago) link
Troll moves are bullshit and annoying even when done by people omar little finds attractive
― Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Friday, 22 November 2019 00:08 (four years ago) link
I apologise, that was uncalled for. I'll shut up now.
― Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Friday, 22 November 2019 00:10 (four years ago) link
the bad cop/good cop lego head spins at 208 rotations per second
― $1,000,000 or 1 bag of honeycrisp apples (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 22 November 2019 00:12 (four years ago) link
sorry 1/208
― $1,000,000 or 1 bag of honeycrisp apples (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 22 November 2019 00:13 (four years ago) link
I’m slowly realizing I hate all this futuristic shit. I was a huge fan of her melancholy bedroom pop—huge huge fan—and also loved her foray into exuberant art pop, which seemed life affirming and artistically brave. But this all seems weird. If it’s sincere, she’s creepy now, and if it’s a troll, what’s the point?
Speaking my truth today. I‘m just an indie fan, i don’t want to be a cyborg.
― treeship., Friday, 22 November 2019 00:17 (four years ago) link
i think she's having fun deliberately saying provocative nonsense that it's not immediately obvious how serious she is about (so trolling basically) after all the frustrations she's had with the media reporting her every word in the past
― ufo, Friday, 22 November 2019 00:30 (four years ago) link
Maybe idk. She seems really fascinating with the singularity and these types of techno-utopian ideas. Maybe it’s all an artistic conceit but who knows.
― treeship., Friday, 22 November 2019 00:33 (four years ago) link
yeah that's the thing, she's sincerely very into that stuff but it's not clear just how much. like she obviously didn't get experimental cornea replacement surgery but how much of the rest of this stuff is a bit?
― ufo, Friday, 22 November 2019 00:40 (four years ago) link
I just know it’s alienating to me as a listener
― treeship., Friday, 22 November 2019 00:45 (four years ago) link
but then again she doesn’t like pandering to audience expectations/desires, and that’s been consistent
― treeship., Friday, 22 November 2019 00:48 (four years ago) link
Ok i just listened to the newest one—i thought “violence” was the newest one.
It’s actually awesome. Still don’t like the singularity stuff but this is a great track.
― treeship., Friday, 22 November 2019 00:55 (four years ago) link
― Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Thursday, November 21, 2019 4:08 PM (fifty-four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
― Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Thursday, November 21, 2019 4:10 PM (fifty-two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
It’s pretty clear that she’s someone who just says shit without thinking, I mean give her a mic or some space to rant and she’ll say a bunch of wild shit because I think that’s simply how her mind operates. I do doubt she’s actually trolling as much as just rambling and having fun with her thought process, without regard for what anyone else feels about it. So she says dumb stuff like about Tesla or public transit and she dates a psychopath. I won’t comment on her attractiveness pro or con, I’ll just note your first post and tell you that you shouldn’t have apologized if you really meant it, and if you didn’t you should probably just chill because it’s just grimes.
― omar little, Friday, 22 November 2019 01:13 (four years ago) link
I mean I ain’t even mad I had a brief “what the—!” and then remembered it was the internet
― omar little, Friday, 22 November 2019 01:17 (four years ago) link
Nah, I was being a shit, but thank you for your understanding.
― Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Friday, 22 November 2019 04:37 (four years ago) link
Forget it, my man, just don’t get the wrong idea about me and Larry Mullen Jr next time I bump a U2 thread to defend Songs of Experience.
― omar little, Friday, 22 November 2019 04:57 (four years ago) link
:)
― Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Friday, 22 November 2019 07:59 (four years ago) link
Larry Mullen Jr is cute tho
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 22 November 2019 13:30 (four years ago) link
I think a big part of the problem is Grimes' techno-utopian shit just feels a bit naff and laughable. It's much more Sigue Sigue Sputnik/Network 7 than Blade Runner.
― Position Position, Friday, 22 November 2019 16:01 (four years ago) link
https://i.pinimg.com/236x/43/5d/a4/435da4f0fe3fb2b6662f3ff6ca0febc6--paint-by-number-unicorn.jpg
― omar little, Friday, 22 November 2019 19:45 (four years ago) link
the finished version of this has apparently leaked now. when was the last time an album leaked this far out?
― ufo, Monday, 25 November 2019 11:46 (four years ago) link
it's... fine?
― ufo, Monday, 25 November 2019 13:27 (four years ago) link
ive come to think she's being critical of tech-utopianism but her strategy is over-identification which might be an unredeemably fraught method of critique imo
― Vapor waif (uptown churl), Monday, 25 November 2019 15:51 (four years ago) link
maybe she's a shallow self centered person who has a platform to talk bullshit because she's good at music and dates a billionaire?
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 25 November 2019 15:57 (four years ago) link
I'd generously go with flakey over self-centered
my mind just keeps going back to the "build a boat and float down the mississippi" story
― mh, Monday, 25 November 2019 16:35 (four years ago) link
there's nothing wrong with being flakey! I have some friends like that. I probably would have a lot of reservations if they had any fame or power
― mh, Monday, 25 November 2019 16:36 (four years ago) link
feel like some outlandish percentage like 75% of ilm distaste for grimes is bc she dated musk for a minute. i do understand since he's pretty distasteful and esp for ilx politics/aesthetics but seems so harsh to run her down bc of a very short romance.
― Mordy, Monday, 25 November 2019 16:59 (four years ago) link
They broke up?
― Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 25 November 2019 17:17 (four years ago) link
the real crime was breaking up w/ an ilxor tbh, we look after our own
― imago, Monday, 25 November 2019 17:20 (four years ago) link
lol we definitely don't look after our own
― treeship., Monday, 25 November 2019 17:21 (four years ago) link
but anyway emil.y skewered her as a popular kid cosplaying weird a long while ago
not that any of this makes her music bad of course
― imago, Monday, 25 November 2019 17:21 (four years ago) link
everything is cosplaying
― Mordy, Monday, 25 November 2019 17:30 (four years ago) link
granted
― imago, Monday, 25 November 2019 17:31 (four years ago) link