GUIDED BY VOICES vs STONE TEMPLE PILOTS

no hes right

Defending gbv feels so 20 years ago

― calstars, Friday, January 3, 2020 1:25 PM (eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

srsly its like defending the vu... some things just arent for everyone

honestly, if you listen to Bee Thousand and Alien Lanes and don't like em yr probably good on not going farther

― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, January 3, 2020 4:21 PM (eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

I can see someone loving Earthquake Glue and then checking out those two albums and not really being down with the lo-fi, low-attention-span weirdness despite the tunes.

exactly

xp not if you're turned off by the production on those two albums

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― calstars, Friday, January 3, 2020 3:31 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

dunno exactly what my gbv pox would look like and i'll never put myself through the pain of trying to make one but i'm certain this would be on it

i just think the songwriting and general "frission" took a major nosedive after '95.. it doesn't appeal to me

And now we see eye to eye
That another man's trash is collectible
And every weakness is correctable

Speaking of highlights, just want to share this great piano version of Wondering Boy Poet:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSggyzJH9nI

lotta gems on the first suitcase.. full band version of "spring tigers" <3 <3 <3

kinda wish scott weiland wouldve recorded a whole loungey album a la "and so i know"

Assuming you already have, but check out Weiland's solo records if you haven't. Quite a few more loungey leaning moments on those, iirc.

lol I actually haven’t, thx for the tip

12 Bar Blues is a really good record, I actually come back to it more often than STP proper these days - start there. Happy in Galoshes is a bloated mess with some great gems. I haven't heard Blaster since it came out, but I don't recall liking it much at all.

agreed that 12 bar blues is v good

Unless there are ppl who just don't like hooks? Is that a type?

It’s something about his kind of hooks, and his singing/songwriting style... idk. I guess he’s heavily influenced by older British bands (not really my bag)?

But that's the thing, I think maybe this is a misconception by ppl who haven't dug very deeply—yeah he's totally influenced by the Davies bros and the Who etc., but at least as much by Wire, Genesis, Rocket From The Tombs, loads of stuff that isn't remotely British Invasion

I guess this where I should say that, beyond Purple, I wouldn't stump for more than a couple STP/Weiland tracks, and I certainly wouldn't stump that hard.

i think tiny music is better than purple and i find it weird that ppl don't agree

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjLiO7BlpuI

this is my fuckin favorite stp song

I've listened to a couple of the post-Purple joints, Weiland's 12-Bar Blues, even the Talk Show album, and my feeling is they pretty much shot all they had that second time out.

It's a good one, for sure.

xp

I didnt like his voice as much after purple

Tiny Music has the best ratio of great/good non-singles.

One of my favorite 2010s songs is a non-Pollard from the double LP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQzw0kn-GfU

Pollard would write a lyric with the phrase "humble kidney pie."

re: tiny music, i routinely forget how good "adhesive" is too. it sounds like a psych emo song with a trumpet solo

best album track on purple is "unglued" imo

which my best friend and I loved when it first aired cos "masturbation" is the third word

I loved "Lounge Fly", but only cos I recognized the part of the song that was used on MTV

"Adhesive" is rad

young me had a hard time adjusting to Tiny Music's expansion into other genres and wearing more of their 70s influences on their sleeves

adult me is all about that shit. like I hated "And So I Know" with a passion then, but right now this shit makes me wanna get in a goddamn jacuzzi with a mai tai

I love "Adhesive", it was one of the many tracks where I wondered if he sucked helium out of a balloon before recording though.

also hate the Ju-On esque "i told you five or four times" gross vocal thing at the end of "Art School Girl"

The move toward Bowie/Zeppelin/Lennon was exactly what pulled me in.

yeah I was just spinning through Tiny Music and I really dig it much more now than I did as a kid. really let the DeLeos play to their strengths

which my best friend and I loved when it first aired cos "masturbation" is the third word

Barbarella is masturbation

lol

Btw unglued is awesome and super fun to play on guitar. Same w silvergun superman.

Kitchenware & candybars is a good tool song

Tiny Music has the best ratio of great/good non-singles

I kinda think this might be No. 4 instead actually

Brad, just have to say real quick that I have mad respect for your musical opinions even when they diverge wildly from my own. Your enthusiasm is palpable.

huh, never read the credits for 12 bar blues before

Sheryl Crow – accordion
Brad Mehldau – piano

also thanks to this thread i'm listening to a ton of stp and i think i've been underrating no. 4 for ages. "down," "heaven & hot rods," "church on tuesday," "sour girl," all pretty great. lmao that "no way out" is basically a nu-metal song though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smzWHzRzWfc

good new song, must be a Tuesday

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voted STP to help the ratio a bit but im probably ready to do a gbv deep dive here soon.

i think tiny music is better than purple and i find it weird that ppl don't agree

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not a wide enough margin