it was literally a toss-up between bumping the Loud Family thread and starting this
glad I made the right decision tho lol
― imago, Sunday, 5 January 2020 01:39 (four years ago) link
(xp) Indeed.
― Frozen Mug (Tom D.), Sunday, 5 January 2020 02:03 (four years ago) link
You either accept a historical definition or a wholly subjective one. But you can’t have both.
― Οὖτις, Sunday, 5 January 2020 02:13 (four years ago) link
The Reasonable Person Psychedelic Orchestra rules
― and i approve this message (Hunt3r), Sunday, 5 January 2020 02:22 (four years ago) link
may i kindly suggest we post more songs
and don't be afraid to post songs by more recent acts either
― imago, Sunday, 5 January 2020 02:23 (four years ago) link
Sleater-Kinney: "What's Mine Is Yours"
― a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 5 January 2020 03:02 (four years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GcpNvYFMGE
― Into the Bro-known: One Dude’s ‘Frozen’ Podcast (morrisp), Sunday, 5 January 2020 03:09 (four years ago) link
the dragonfly/purple dancer single is a path fleetwood mac should have followed a bit more, kirwan and spencer duets had potentialhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RicSJtQVmI
― buzza, Sunday, 5 January 2020 05:22 (four years ago) link
just listened to that chubby checker album, holy shit. one of the songs climaxes with him yelling "lets get together and make a SPACE BABY!" A+++++++, would psych again.
― warn me about a lurking rake (One Eye Open), Monday, 6 January 2020 20:12 (four years ago) link
I assumed that the thread was supposed to be about lps or tracks like that and things like Muddy Waters Electric Mud and the Howlin Wolf equivalent rather than attempting to dismiss bands that are pretty widely recognised for sounding psychedelic.
― Stevolende, Monday, 6 January 2020 20:29 (four years ago) link
"sounding psychedelic"
this is a meaningless phrase
― Οὖτις, Monday, 6 January 2020 20:30 (four years ago) link
also there is already this thread: Black Acid Rock - S/D
― Οὖτις, Monday, 6 January 2020 20:31 (four years ago) link
this is classic ilm
― bidenfan69420 (jim in vancouver), Monday, 6 January 2020 20:31 (four years ago) link
ok I'll play the little game that I should have just ignored. How do you define psychedelic in a way that somehow excludes Can.
Or what were the credentials and the correct phrase for amounting to psychedelic.
I would think the crucial point was that the sense of hearing experienced the sound as being psychedelic hence sounding psychedelic.
― Stevolende, Monday, 6 January 2020 21:00 (four years ago) link
the latter is a wholly subjective category that no one will agree on, rendering the usage of the term pointless. Using the term that way doesn't tell you anything about how the music sounds, who made it when/where, how it was performed/composed/produced. All it tells anyone is that you, as a listener, associate this particular piece of music with taking psychedelic drugs. And how is that useful for anyone.
― Οὖτις, Monday, 6 January 2020 21:12 (four years ago) link
like let's say both the Bee Gees "Red Chair Fadeaway" and Can's "Mother Sky" are considered "psychedelic". These two pieces of music have nothing in common. They don't sound similar, they weren't composed or produced in a similar style, they don't share lyrical associations, they don't share instrumentation, they were made in different times in different countries by very different sets of people - one is an abstract fairytale pop song with a mellotron and harmony vocals and the other is a ten minute long mostly instrumental chugging metallic groove with polyrhythms and a stinging electric guitar lead - why on earth would you want to group these songs together or imply that they share any musical DNA?
― Οὖτις, Monday, 6 January 2020 21:19 (four years ago) link
and yet, somehow, the term is used and ppl generally understand what is meant... expand yr mind & see the connections, man
― warn me about a lurking rake (One Eye Open), Monday, 6 January 2020 21:28 (four years ago) link
ppl generally understand what is meant
they obviously don't, as this clusterfuck of a thread proved within the first 10 posts.
― Οὖτις, Monday, 6 January 2020 21:29 (four years ago) link
just to say that the first track by the loud family is a phantastic jam i didn't know before. not quite sure if i'd call it psychedelic though. it is quite heavy though. what about this?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3r54Rrigr4
― walking towards the sun since 2007 (alex in mainhattan), Monday, 6 January 2020 21:32 (four years ago) link
^nah
― BeerAdvocate in the streets, Wookiepedia in the sheets (morrisp), Monday, 6 January 2020 21:34 (four years ago) link
I thought Gish was pretty psychedelic when I heard it around the time. Couldn't really take the voice that much though.THink I far preferred Mercury Rev around the time.
― Stevolende, Monday, 6 January 2020 21:36 (four years ago) link
how about Schooly D "PSK", the sound of PCP
― Οὖτις, Monday, 6 January 2020 21:37 (four years ago) link
or Ken Nordine's "Sound Museum"
see I can list random songs too!
― Οὖτις, Monday, 6 January 2020 21:38 (four years ago) link
ok u win the psych award jfc
― warn me about a lurking rake (One Eye Open), Monday, 6 January 2020 21:42 (four years ago) link
the PCPGees
― ☮️ (peace, man), Monday, 6 January 2020 21:44 (four years ago) link
they were made in different times in different countries by very different sets of people
I don’t really get what this has to do with anything tbh. There have psych bands all over the world for like the last 50 years. And lots of them would even say that they were influenced by Can
― Death to (NickB), Monday, 6 January 2020 21:53 (four years ago) link
woah check out the echo in here
― Death to (NickB), Monday, 6 January 2020 21:55 (four years ago) link
Gish was written & recorded under the influence of vast amounts of LSD, so surely it literally qualifies as psychedelic music
Another possibly contentious suggestion:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qXRjEQ7eEo
― Brainless Addlepated Timid Muddleheaded Awful No-Account (Pheeel), Monday, 6 January 2020 21:58 (four years ago) link
I like both "Rhinoceros" and that SY song a lot, but neither seem either "psychedelic" or "Psych" to me (tho I'm no arbiter of psych, self-proclaimed or otherwise)
― BeerAdvocate in the streets, Wookiepedia in the sheets (morrisp), Monday, 6 January 2020 22:00 (four years ago) link
gish was psychedelic that's right but the smashing weren't later on. so they belong in this thread, no?
― walking towards the sun since 2007 (alex in mainhattan), Monday, 6 January 2020 22:02 (four years ago) link
What makes Gish psychedelic? The guitar pedals? It's a pretty straight-up hard rock record.
― BeerAdvocate in the streets, Wookiepedia in the sheets (morrisp), Monday, 6 January 2020 22:07 (four years ago) link
if this isn't psychedelic - just look at the cacti - i don't know what is. later on howe mainly travelled the american desert rock roads.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3YwOYjrqbQ
― walking towards the sun since 2007 (alex in mainhattan), Monday, 6 January 2020 22:12 (four years ago) link
under the influence of vast amounts of LSD, so surely it literally qualifies as psychedelic music
oh cool, didn't know "Wu-Tang Forever" was a psych record too!
― Οὖτις, Monday, 6 January 2020 22:16 (four years ago) link
What makes Gish psychedelic? The guitar pedals? It's a pretty straight-up hard rock record
― walking towards the sun since 2007 (alex in mainhattan), Monday, 6 January 2020 22:17 (four years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-JdFM41RUg
― Οὖτις, Monday, 6 January 2020 22:22 (four years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtiMdE23L2o
― Οὖτις, Monday, 6 January 2020 22:23 (four years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xfi7MTaI9d4
― Οὖτις, Monday, 6 January 2020 22:24 (four years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51PP8TwXrxE
― Οὖτις, Monday, 6 January 2020 22:26 (four years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvKjpGP6P5Y
― Οὖτις, Monday, 6 January 2020 22:27 (four years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftSUchAdVTE
― Οὖτις, Monday, 6 January 2020 22:28 (four years ago) link
it is the sound effects, lots of stereo effects between the two channels. besides the silent loud dynamics and the general fucked-upness or weirdness of the sound the first time you listen to it.
Do you consider, say, Nothing's Shocking to be psychedelic?
― BeerAdvocate in the streets, Wookiepedia in the sheets (morrisp), Monday, 6 January 2020 22:29 (four years ago) link
xp. concerning the pogues:
so his teeth were sore from the beginning on...
quite standard rock.
the psychedelic share is below 10% i'd say.
― walking towards the sun since 2007 (alex in mainhattan), Monday, 6 January 2020 22:30 (four years ago) link
Like the 60s, this thread began with a lot of good music but ended in disillusion and confusion
― warn me about a lurking rake (One Eye Open), Monday, 6 January 2020 22:32 (four years ago) link
but Shane was taking a lot of acid at the time so it must be psychedelic music QED plus they used funny 60s visual effects in the video
― Οὖτις, Monday, 6 January 2020 22:37 (four years ago) link
― walking towards the sun since 2007 (alex in mainhattan), Monday, 6 January 2020 22:38 (four years ago) link
Possibly less contentious suggestion:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiloWOFuY08
― Brainless Addlepated Timid Muddleheaded Awful No-Account (Pheeel), Monday, 6 January 2020 22:39 (four years ago) link
later on the jane addiction album delves more into the boring heart of hard rock, it seems.
― walking towards the sun since 2007 (alex in mainhattan), Monday, 6 January 2020 22:40 (four years ago) link
Phil Ochs - The Crucifixion
― Death to (NickB), Monday, 6 January 2020 22:43 (four years ago) link
xp It has all that stuff you mention... if anything, I think it's more "psychedelic" than Gish!
― BeerAdvocate in the streets, Wookiepedia in the sheets (morrisp), Monday, 6 January 2020 22:44 (four years ago) link