Every Little Counts. Saw them on the tour for this record. Bernard sang, 'Every second counts, when I'm fucking you'
― woody woods, Sunday, 5 January 2020 18:48 (four years ago) link
No-one i've met likes this record much. They almost never do tracks from it live iirc?
― piscesx, Sunday, 5 January 2020 21:18 (four years ago) link
I love this version of "Paradise" from Reading '98
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ct2T7aW_d8Y
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 5 January 2020 21:21 (four years ago) link
and "As It Is When It Was":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-T3yzQbMVE
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 5 January 2020 21:22 (four years ago) link
the first three songs of this album are so bad that it hurts.
― walking towards the sun since 2007 (alex in mainhattan), Sunday, 5 January 2020 21:23 (four years ago) link
I never even bought this one, don't know why.
― Mark G, Sunday, 5 January 2020 21:40 (four years ago) link
Sleeve uninspiring maybe. Wasn't totally sold on the singles, possibly. Something else happening? Quite probably.
― Mark G, Sunday, 5 January 2020 21:41 (four years ago) link
My least favorite NO album (noting that I've never heard anything post-Technique front to back). I don't come to NO for jangly guitar mope. Even the album version of "BLT" is suboptimal. With it eliminated from contention, I guess... "Paradise"?
― shared unit of analysis (unperson), Sunday, 5 January 2020 21:59 (four years ago) link
I wouldn't call 'Broken Promise' or "Way of Life" victims of guitar mope at all -- the rhythms are too sprightly (and the acoustic guitar on "As It Is" works as a wtf moment). I remembered a description written by a Select writer in '93 reassessing NO's albums: "Elsewhere, the Bass of Hook prowls the first side, presumably with a hangover."
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 5 January 2020 22:26 (four years ago) link
the album version of BLT is the best one
― ufo, Monday, 6 January 2020 00:56 (four years ago) link
Sleeve uninspiring maybe
when i got into new order (in pre-internet days) i bought everything i could find by them... except this album which i'd always passed by, unaware of what it was. it was years later that i saw the sleeve online and realized "oh! so that's brotherhood".
― visiting, Monday, 6 January 2020 01:52 (four years ago) link
Nice to see Gillian playing guitars in those clips. No one is (should be) listening to NO primarily for the guitars, necessary, but it's interesting to see who brings what in terms of texture. Also interesting to see the band in that '98 clip relying so much on backing tracks for the synths and backing vox.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 6 January 2020 03:32 (four years ago) link
the magic of new order is they were also incidentally the best guitar-pop band in the world when they wanted to be
― ufo, Monday, 6 January 2020 05:26 (four years ago) link
No one is (should be) listening to NO primarily for the guitars
lol what?
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Monday, 6 January 2020 17:26 (four years ago) link
Oh, I like the guitars! I just mean it's the electronic/dance elements that really set them apart, imo. That and good songs. Or I guess you could say it's the guitars that set them apart from a lot of electronic/dance music, I suppose. Anyway, when anyone describes a band as being like New Order, they're rarely talking about the guitars, imo
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 6 January 2020 18:55 (four years ago) link
I just assume they mean the lead singer is terrible
― totally unnecessary bewbz of exploitation (DJP), Monday, 6 January 2020 19:00 (four years ago) link
"Limp Bizkit, a New Order-influenced band from Florida ... "
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 6 January 2020 19:01 (four years ago) link
checks out
― totally unnecessary bewbz of exploitation (DJP), Monday, 6 January 2020 19:21 (four years ago) link
http://img4.bdbphotos.com/images/230x300/e/p/epe5tvz6zherh6ez.jpg?skj2io4l
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 6 January 2020 19:29 (four years ago) link
https://images.complex.com/complex/images/c_limit,dpr_auto,q_90,w_720/fl_lossy,pg_1/hzuevut6p7azm9jt7x69/fred-durst
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 6 January 2020 19:31 (four years ago) link
just an odd take, since for me Peter Hook's bass playing is just about one of the most distinctive things in music
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Monday, 6 January 2020 19:34 (four years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.
― System, Monday, 20 January 2020 00:01 (four years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― System, Tuesday, 21 January 2020 00:01 (four years ago) link
Oh I missed that - I would have voted for Broken Promise with Paradise a close second. Like others, it's the NO album I know least (including the come-back albums which I love). Unlike others, I really don't like "All day Long" and "Every Little Counts" which I think turned me off this album. Something about barney's singing that I find really off-putting on these songs (kinda similar in thsi regard to Love Vigilantes and 1963)
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 21 January 2020 10:14 (four years ago) link
I too have always been a bit baffled by the love for those two songs, in particular. I think I missed the poll but I probably would have voted "Paradise." This is definitely not my favorite NO album.
― Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, 21 January 2020 12:48 (four years ago) link
Having recently seen Wagner's Rheingold at the opera, I was struck by the similarity between the synth line in All Day Long beginning at around 3'10" and the Rhine leitmotif emerging in the Rheingold's prelude at ca. 2 minutes into the piece.
For comparison:
https://youtu.be/MuHNXoZvlgg?t=189
https://youtu.be/gH4947fQcgo
― jvc, Tuesday, 21 January 2020 13:54 (four years ago) link
Isn't the Reinghold the walk on music for New Order typically?
― brotherlovesdub, Tuesday, 21 January 2020 17:54 (four years ago) link
Thanks! Haven't really kept up with NO after Technique, so that's news to me. Checking recent setlists and concert clips, the Rheingold prelude indeed is their walk on music, so the ADL string synth part is definitely a conscious borrowing.
― jvc, Tuesday, 21 January 2020 19:40 (four years ago) link
The walk-on music last Saturday was "Times Change."
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 21 January 2020 20:22 (four years ago) link
Yeah, I watched a very long video compiled from the Miami shows and that instrumental version of Times Change was the best thing they 'played' in 4 days. Mostly due to Bernard not singing on it. Although Dream Attack sounded great.
― brotherlovesdub, Tuesday, 21 January 2020 22:43 (four years ago) link
The Saturday show was solid. The show last January was superb.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 21 January 2020 22:46 (four years ago) link
It's so much better in person than it is watching a hand held youtube stream.
― brotherlovesdub, Tuesday, 21 January 2020 22:53 (four years ago) link
Despite squishing together several superior NO singles, "Angel Dust" is perfect orientalist goth.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 7 September 2021 02:41 (three years ago) link