Grimes/Claire Boucher thread

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Idoru is one of the best ones in here I agree

✖✖✖ (Moka), Sunday, 16 February 2020 16:46 (four years ago) link

the instrumental of "darkseid" confirms she's been listening to as much skinny puppy lately as i have

american bradass (BradNelson), Sunday, 16 February 2020 16:48 (four years ago) link

excited to pick this up Friday

omar little, Sunday, 16 February 2020 16:50 (four years ago) link

Halfway through this, and 4æm is the first song I won't delete forever. Even if it does sound like the kind of d'n'b interlude bands like Oasis would use to fill out the runtime of a CD back in the late nineties. Other than that, this is really boring.

Frederik B, Friday, 21 February 2020 09:13 (four years ago) link

i'm a bit surprised it hasn't gotten widely panned. it's not thaat bad but it's still a real disappointment and factoring in her heel turn made a huge backlash seem pretty likely to me

it's not even fun to dislike it unfortunately

ufo, Friday, 21 February 2020 09:23 (four years ago) link

It's perhaps slightly better than feared? Ok final track. But mostly it reminds me how much great and thoughtful pop is happening at the moment.

Frederik B, Friday, 21 February 2020 09:43 (four years ago) link

even the stronger tracks like "idoru" are let down by the strangely amateurish mix and sound design

ufo, Friday, 21 February 2020 09:53 (four years ago) link

The album reminded me of the time a friend of mine said that Miley Cyrus was more artistically daring than Beyoncé, because she worked with the Flaming Lips

Frederik B, Friday, 21 February 2020 09:55 (four years ago) link

i like the melody of "you'll miss me when i'm not around" a lot but it feels a bit slight overall. there's some interesting stuff happening in the background but it never quite commits to any of it

ufo, Friday, 21 February 2020 10:00 (four years ago) link

This is good and everyone except Brad is wrong.

Matt DC, Friday, 21 February 2020 10:05 (four years ago) link

Another thing that struck me is this whole idea of celebrating climate change, isn't that what California did already?

Frederik B, Friday, 21 February 2020 10:38 (four years ago) link

it was a shame the completely bonkers concept she talked about in interviews basically didn't end up coming through at all

ufo, Friday, 21 February 2020 10:40 (four years ago) link

That seems good actually

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Friday, 21 February 2020 12:28 (four years ago) link

Pitchfork Best New Music? And Brad likes it?
Sigh... I guess I have to give this album a fair chance now. (and here i thought "delete forever" was the final straw....)

enochroot, Friday, 21 February 2020 13:42 (four years ago) link

warning i now think "delete forever" is the best grimes song

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 21 February 2020 13:44 (four years ago) link

xp: With all love and respect to one of my favorite posters, please name something Brad doesn't like.

☮️ (peace, man), Friday, 21 February 2020 14:07 (four years ago) link

heh, the pitchfork review is the rare BNW that is also a burn

But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Friday, 21 February 2020 16:12 (four years ago) link

The disjunction between the disembodiment and the explicit riffage is enticing so far.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 21 February 2020 16:14 (four years ago) link

This is pretty good, it's the kind of album a Visions fan may have imagined her making with a bigger budget. If you prefer the turn she took with Art Angels towards massive energetic hooks, this may be a bit too much reverb-soaked meandering.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 21 February 2020 16:57 (four years ago) link

This might end up being a grower for me but at the moment I find the sound design and mixing in general very offputting.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 21 February 2020 17:13 (four years ago) link

i've spent months with it and it hasn't grown on me at all

ufo, Friday, 21 February 2020 17:20 (four years ago) link

First listen made me want to listen to Visions.

Indexed, Friday, 21 February 2020 17:32 (four years ago) link

it's closer to Visions than it is to ArtAngels, a more slick and metallic version of the former. Really good at first pass (i never heard the leak). There's a deluxe version out there w/We Appreciate Power and several other tracks, which i don't think is seeing a CD/vinyl release unfortunately.

omar little, Friday, 21 February 2020 17:36 (four years ago) link

Ugh hearing IDORU and I’m getting annoyed by the lack of mid sounds. It sounds so hollow, like a really long intro. I’m waiting for the sound to have some muscle and it never does. I’ll assume it’s a conscious aesthetic choice but it’s perplexing to me why you’d like your songs to sound so skeletal.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 21 February 2020 17:55 (four years ago) link

I love Art Angels and Visions and the tracks in between but I'm just really not feeling this one aside from 2 or 3 tracks that I kind of like.

gman59, Friday, 21 February 2020 18:46 (four years ago) link

perhaps this will be the death knell of the hipster obsession with cold corporate visual and sound design. mids are what the human ear hears best so it makes sense she got rid of em for more impeccably “post human” vibe but that shit is increasingly played out, the whole accelerationist obsession with mutability is feeling like missing the point

Vapor waif (uptown churl), Friday, 21 February 2020 20:05 (four years ago) link

sounds really good on airpods. #masteredforairpods ?

mh, Friday, 21 February 2020 20:25 (four years ago) link

i just got my first pair of knockoff airbuds (their true name) in the mail yesterday! i will give this a listen on their intended format

But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Friday, 21 February 2020 20:53 (four years ago) link

perhaps this will be the death knell of the hipster obsession with cold corporate visual and sound design

yes, a few critical posts on ilx and it's all over

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 21 February 2020 21:09 (four years ago) link

but will we use our power for good or evil?

But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Friday, 21 February 2020 21:11 (four years ago) link

I get the sense that this is meant to be listened to on large speakers as loud as possible

winters (josh), Friday, 21 February 2020 21:21 (four years ago) link

Ok I'm listening to this now despite all my resolutions not to and it's not terrible sounding at all? Sounds like grimes. I'm about halfway through and really wish there were stronger hooks, but production-wise its Grimes doing what she does best. Five years on from Art Angels though, I think it confirms that I'm just not that into her anymore. Like, my interest in her style has definitely passed.

☮️ (peace, man), Friday, 21 February 2020 21:25 (four years ago) link

starting to think that while ol’ grimey has a skill for tunes and visual aesthetics she might not be the brightest bulb

hm pic.twitter.com/QxbAOUJmZc

— large sarah the size of a small sarah (@SarahNEmerson) February 21, 2020

mh, Friday, 21 February 2020 23:34 (four years ago) link

She did a Q&A on twitch today as Ocarina_of_Grimes, it was pretty rough going.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 21 February 2020 23:40 (four years ago) link

This is almost impressively forgettable. Everything about it feels uninspired. Be cool if there were some hooks, not a lot to hold onto here besides some flimsy sounding production work that seems well below her talents. And I don’t really care if it’s an intentional Bold Aesthetic Decision if the result is this boring.

circa1916, Saturday, 22 February 2020 00:40 (four years ago) link

I’ve always dug We Appreciate Power but I guess that’s not even on the album proper.

circa1916, Saturday, 22 February 2020 00:43 (four years ago) link

People are complaining about the guitars but honestly so many people have been recoding guitars so badly for so long now that I dunno why you'd single Grimes out here?

That organ sound at the beginning of UDORU though fucking hell.

This does sound good in general on big speakers though. A lot of it sounds like it was made from reclaimed sounds from 1999 bargain bins though, made explicit when it lurches into drum and bass midway through, plus all those moody beats and processed guitars. I kinda like that about it though, and she's bringing enough new to the table that it's not just big Sneaker Pimps energy.

Matt DC, Saturday, 22 February 2020 11:14 (four years ago) link

it's really just "delete forever" where the guitars stick out horribly, it's not just that they're badly recorded but they don't sonically fit with everything else which is worse than if everything is badly recorded but in a way that's at least cohesive. i tend to dislike her vocals and some of the drum and synth sounds more on other tracks, but there's also tracks that hold together well like "so heavy i felt through the earth".

the rest of the guitar sounds aren't that bad but aren't particularly good either (except "so heavy i fell through the earth" where they do their job). i think i'd like it more if the guitar sounds committed more to rocking i guess, like "we appreciate power" worked a lot better than most of these tracks while "my name is dark" and "you'll miss me when i'm not just around" just kinda plod along

ufo, Saturday, 22 February 2020 11:25 (four years ago) link

Might start telling people that's Elon Musk playing the Wonderwall guitar on Delete Forever.

Matt DC, Saturday, 22 February 2020 11:53 (four years ago) link

Odds of that are maybe 50/50. What drugs do you think they’re ripping? I think this is a drug album but I’m not sure which drug.

circa1916, Saturday, 22 February 2020 13:10 (four years ago) link

'Violence' and 'Idoru' are highlights, 'My Name Is Dark' as well maybe. The rest just kind of lazily drones on and doesn't leave much of an impression.

romanesque architect (pomenitul), Saturday, 22 February 2020 13:13 (four years ago) link

I thought "Flesh Without Blood" and "Kill V. Maim" were supreme jams, but nothing else I've heard from her has made any impression. Should I bother with the new one?

pet friendly (Euler), Saturday, 22 February 2020 13:42 (four years ago) link

it’s a nootropics album

Lol brad touché what I meant was an ultimate stylistic dead end for the sort of highlighted artificiality aesthetic

it’s also interesting to think about some of the discourse here as a case study for how poptimism can force an artificial equivalency between corporate marketing and artistic intent

Vapor waif (uptown churl), Saturday, 22 February 2020 16:37 (four years ago) link

it’s a nootropics album


This is good. I mean the album isn’t, but yeah.

circa1916, Saturday, 22 February 2020 17:56 (four years ago) link

what does that mean, exactly? music for people who take nootropics?

But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Saturday, 22 February 2020 18:15 (four years ago) link

-insert obvious spacemen 3 joke here-

But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Saturday, 22 February 2020 18:15 (four years ago) link

it’s an album for people who post on nootropics message boards maybe lol

mh, Saturday, 22 February 2020 19:35 (four years ago) link

Album whips ass

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Saturday, 22 February 2020 22:39 (four years ago) link

does it?

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Saturday, 22 February 2020 22:42 (four years ago) link

But does it whip a camel’s ass?

brimstead, Saturday, 22 February 2020 22:52 (four years ago) link


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