often hire external help to adjust the mix level settings/compression/EQ at the track level
But there are "mixers" credited on every track... I think IDORU is the only one where Grimes is the credited mixer?
― Murdered-Out Highlander XLE (morrisp), Thursday, 27 February 2020 20:27 (four years ago) link
Yeah I saw that... which is why it's likely a deliberate choice, and one that I don't agree with.
― octobeard, Thursday, 27 February 2020 20:34 (four years ago) link
Oh it’s totally a deliberate choice (sorry, guess I misunderstood your comment). I personally think it “works” and sounds great, but obviously that’s a matter of taste.
― Murdered-Out Highlander XLE (morrisp), Thursday, 27 February 2020 20:37 (four years ago) link
I don't know that I buy that, there are plenty of records where a professional engineer just fucked up the mix. I definitely hear digital clipping on the kicks and it does not sound purposeful to me.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 27 February 2020 20:44 (four years ago) link
moodles otm, basically the line between production and mixing doesn't really exist anymore so you have producers making mix decisions and vice versa and it can end up with the mixer sorta being the label's enforcer to juice and maximize things to earbleed levels sometimes or rush things to release.
but it sounds great on my iphone speakers, and i don't notice the mediocre quality when i am commuting with headphones on. it suffers played back to back with extremely expensively made records. but at the end of the day the album is fascinating, and sort of suggests a chillwavey nostalgia-as-future-anxiety with the past being y2k era instead of vhs, and the future anxiety being apocalypse rather than joblessness. the garbage comparison resonates because it hits that period where the digital hooks were going in and we weren't really noticing, and now look where it got us.
speaking of hooks ... it is absolutely packed with hooks and ... i think people have differing definitions of what a hook is? i have had like 5-6 different ones running through my head after just two listens
― Vapor waif (uptown churl), Thursday, 27 February 2020 21:21 (four years ago) link
people hear things differently... like the tonic of “sweet home Alabama” or w/e
― brimstead, Thursday, 27 February 2020 21:51 (four years ago) link
I think there’s been a lot of projecting w/the relatively few reviews calling this a failure, little discussion of her skills as a musician creating a melodic work and more about her skill in executing the concept album she mentioned which like i said before was more a jumping-off point wrt inspiration vs any explicitly told dystopian tale.
Interestingly I think like AA it comes off better as a whole, when listened to in one sitting. vs listening to the tracks as they were rolling out — they sounded cool but it works well as a piece. Also idk if it’s better than AA but I think it’s a more consistent record so maybe I’ll agree w D-40 eventually.
― omar little, Thursday, 27 February 2020 21:55 (four years ago) link
chillwavey nostalgia-as-future-anxiety with the past being y2k era instead of vhs, and the future anxiety being apocalypse rather than joblessness
Holy shit I love this description thank you
― octobeard, Thursday, 27 February 2020 22:53 (four years ago) link
Interestingly, in another forum someone took the leaked album and inverted the audio from the official release to see if there were adjustments made between then and now. Only You'll miss me when I'm not around had any changes.
― octobeard, Thursday, 27 February 2020 22:59 (four years ago) link
a forgotten hyper corporate alt rock album downloaded from Kazaa at >128kpbs ca. 1998
^^this is the description I luv
― Murdered-Out Highlander XLE (morrisp), Thursday, 27 February 2020 23:06 (four years ago) link
maybe it's the grimes album for ppl who aren't particularly grimes fans? idk... none of her stuff other than "oblivian" has really grabbed me, but I'm so locked in to this.
― Murdered-Out Highlander XLE (morrisp), Thursday, 27 February 2020 23:07 (four years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCrhTU9HkVQ
can anyone confirm if grimes likes anime
― american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 28 February 2020 01:41 (four years ago) link
almost as hard to determine as whether she's been into tumblr
― mh, Friday, 28 February 2020 01:48 (four years ago) link
Having just listened to the new Caribou album, yeah, this sounds like shit. Still enjoy it though.
― Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 28 February 2020 21:22 (four years ago) link
Is it just me or are her music videos very low effort this album cycle?
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 28 February 2020 21:44 (four years ago) link
Friendship with @Fantano CANCELED ! Friendship with @pitchfork RENEWED pic.twitter.com/DgKnFynbN4— ༺GRIMES༻ 🤍 小仙女 (@Grimezsz) February 28, 2020
― ☮️ (peace, man), Friday, 28 February 2020 23:16 (four years ago) link
ha ha, that’s awesome
― Murdered-Out Highlander XLE (morrisp), Friday, 28 February 2020 23:50 (four years ago) link
pic.twitter.com/Ed4HLucaXe— maddie (@elfnymph) February 28, 2020
― Wuhan!! Got You All in Check (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 29 February 2020 00:08 (four years ago) link
That is how artists should respond to good/bad reviews xxpost
― Tim F, Saturday, 29 February 2020 00:34 (four years ago) link
otm good stuff
― brimstead, Saturday, 29 February 2020 01:20 (four years ago) link
Answering my own question but I wasn’t too far off with the “lesser effort” in her music videos for this cycle compared to previous albums, from an AMA he did in reddit a couple hours ago:
There was also a lot of stuff planned that didn't pan out due to my manager's passing (LAUREN FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!!!) and my pregnancy. We had planned a short film with Jodeb that was about all the Goddesses fighting but being pregnant got too crazy to make somethning like that, and a "modern demonology" with Heavy Metal Magazine that would be a coffee table book with all the Gods
Kinda sucks that her original vision for the visuals of the album got slashed away.
Here’s the AMA : https://www.reddit.com/r/popheads/comments/fb38tj/popheads_its_grimes_and_my_new_album_miss/
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 29 February 2020 04:10 (four years ago) link
the ama also has grimes talking about the mix:
For Miss A i think each song is a mini world/ personality whereas AA is more of a cohesive statement. So some songs just required specific personelle to finish. Like with So heavy, its such a wierd song production wise, i needed someone who could keep the bass heavy but bring the vocals up without losing verb and without muddying the mix, which is why Illangelo was the only option to mix. He's worked extednsively with the weeknd and i think a song like the hills is one of the only songs that has lots of reverb on the vocal and still bangs.
― like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Sunday, 1 March 2020 02:43 (four years ago) link
I know she’s just typing fast, but I genuinely dig the “personelle” neologism.
― Murdered-Out Highlander XLE (morrisp), Sunday, 1 March 2020 03:26 (four years ago) link
I listened to this one again yesterday and my new conclusion is that not all of the songs have an awful sound, just the ones I would actually listen to (delete forever, idoru). The songs that I don’t care much about don’t sound that bad like say, “you’ll miss me when I’m not around”, that one actually sounds good to me.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Sunday, 1 March 2020 08:27 (four years ago) link
Do we know who’s working with her in each track? Illangelo is hit or miss to me but most of his work with the weeknd is great. Did that quote means he worked in the whole album or just on “so heavy”?
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Sunday, 1 March 2020 08:38 (four years ago) link
Carlo “Illangelo” Montagnese is only credited as “mixer” on that particular track.
― Murdered-Out Highlander XLE (morrisp), Sunday, 1 March 2020 15:09 (four years ago) link
I’ve had delete forever in my head all week, such a weird flat disturbing yet beautiful song. The pro tools sterilized banjo is affecting in a way hard to articulate
― Vapor waif (uptown churl), Sunday, 1 March 2020 16:36 (four years ago) link
it is my song of the year so far
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Sunday, 1 March 2020 16:41 (four years ago) link
I'm really getting into this album, it's full of hooks and it's not super long so I can listen to most of it in a single commute.
― Joey Corona (Euler), Sunday, 1 March 2020 16:46 (four years ago) link
Yeah I was wrong about wanting those other mixes on the CD, it’s actually the perfect length.
― Murdered-Out Highlander XLE (morrisp), Sunday, 1 March 2020 16:53 (four years ago) link
I highly appreciate “we appreciate power” but she was correct in not including it on this imo.
― omar little, Sunday, 1 March 2020 18:05 (four years ago) link
At first I was disappointed but the flow of the album is vv good and musically it doesn’t quite fit in.
― omar little, Sunday, 1 March 2020 18:06 (four years ago) link
I’ve officially warmed up to “delete forever” again after listening to it on cheaper headphones. It still sounds a bit flat to my ears but it’s a good Grimes song regardless of how it sounds.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 2 March 2020 08:01 (four years ago) link
Just want to point out how clever it is that "You'll Miss Me When I'm Not Around" (poppiest song ever about suicide?) features gurgling, watery "You'll miss me when I'm down" vocals at the end -- musically expressing the "I'll tie my feet to rocks and drown" sentiment via the chopped 'n screwed chorus treatment so prevalent in recent pop hits.
― Murdered-Out Highlander XLE (morrisp), Monday, 2 March 2020 17:44 (four years ago) link
guYS i mIgHt kILl mYSeLf!!1
― strangely hookworm but they manage ream shoegaze poetry (imago), Monday, 2 March 2020 18:01 (four years ago) link
Oh, go soak yr head ;-)
― Murdered-Out Highlander XLE (morrisp), Monday, 2 March 2020 18:11 (four years ago) link
“You’ll miss me when I’m not around“ has some good hooks though I think it probably is the least essential of the 10 tracks. which isn’t to say it’s not good just that I think the rest of the album is quite a bit better.
― omar little, Monday, 2 March 2020 18:19 (four years ago) link
oh man, I think it's such a great jam!
("before the fever" is the least essential to me... kinda feels mainly like a "bridge" into "IDORU"?)
― tamagotchi revival artist (morrisp), Monday, 2 March 2020 18:22 (four years ago) link
I think it’s a jam but maybe just a step below for me?
Idk though I usually have shifting opinions with strong albums like this which are dense w/quality cuts. Some rise above others in my estimation over time after previously having been slightly lesser.
― omar little, Monday, 2 March 2020 18:27 (four years ago) link
I really loved “violence” and “so heavy I fell through the earth”, looking forward to hearing this
― brimstead, Monday, 2 March 2020 18:56 (four years ago) link
After two listens I'd say there's a greater confidence here. Doesn't wash over you like some of the earlier stuff. Wish it really rocked more or had straight up perverse disco like "violence".
― Alpha 666, The Number of the Beast (I M Losted), Tuesday, 3 March 2020 14:19 (four years ago) link
― strangely hookworm but they manage ream shoegaze poetry (imago), Monday, March 2, 2020 7:01 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
^^ unheimisch feeling of "uh oh, this post will not age well"
― Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 3 March 2020 14:42 (four years ago) link
Love suicide humor, but I guess she has it coming
― omar little, Tuesday, 3 March 2020 14:54 (four years ago) link
Accordingly, the earthiest musical moment on her new album, the strummed acoustic guitars on the track “Delete Forever” (which shares its bizarro-country vibes with 2015’s “California”) is not what it sounds like. “Actually, hilariously,” she says, “that guitar is from a sample pack that I chopped up.” She fakes it so real she’s beyond fake.
no wonder it sounds so off to me then
― ufo, Thursday, 5 March 2020 22:50 (four years ago) link
Good album.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 5 March 2020 23:03 (four years ago) link
otm
― omar little, Thursday, 5 March 2020 23:13 (four years ago) link
― ufo, Thursday, March 5, 2020 4:50 PM (twenty-six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
all rap music does this fwiw
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Thursday, 5 March 2020 23:17 (four years ago) link
OMG you guys, I drove by a huge billboard for this album on my way home 😂:https://i.imgur.com/VqjKJkS_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium
― tamagotchi revival artist (morrisp), Friday, 6 March 2020 01:50 (four years ago) link
I wish I’d been able to get a better shot of it, but you get the main idea. The album art is off to the side
I wonder if Grimes' & Katy Perry's babies are gonna grow up as BFF's.
― Panic! At The Costco (morrisp), Saturday, 7 March 2020 17:19 (four years ago) link