Update on a case discussed at length above (by me): https://variety.com/2020/music/news/katy-perry-dark-horse-reversal-1203537482/
― Panic! At The Costco (morrisp), Wednesday, 18 March 2020 01:55 (four years ago) link
It must have been commented on before but "Sunday Morning" and "Femme Fatale" are the same song from a chord sequence perspective - yes it's true Lou throws in a couple of major sevenths in the verse of the latter, but if you play in the same key they're otherwise exactly the same.
― God gave toilets rolls to you, gave toilet rolls to you (Tom D.), Thursday, 19 March 2020 12:37 (four years ago) link
I think there’s one extra minor chord in Sunday morning, but yes, they’re remarkably similar
― ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Thursday, 19 March 2020 12:41 (four years ago) link
They both use a bVII as a dominant prep chord in the chorus. The verses are a little different.
Sunday Morning:I - IV - I - IVI - vi - V/V - V
Femme Fatale:I - IV - I - IVI - IV - ii - V
― timellison, Thursday, 19 March 2020 21:11 (four years ago) link
Sunday Morning chorus:I - IV - I - IVii - ii - bVII - V
Femme Fatale chorus:I - IV - I - IVI - IV - ii - ii - bVII - V
― timellison, Thursday, 19 March 2020 21:15 (four years ago) link
So, yeah, they both use that ii-bVII-V for the last cadence.
Both with two measures on the ii chord.
― timellison, Thursday, 19 March 2020 21:16 (four years ago) link
Yeah, don't really know what any of that means tbh. I was trying to play them on piano today - by memory, in my own hamfisted way. I don't believe there is an extra minor in "Sunday Morning" though. Also, while we're talking Velvets, am I completely insane or does the D minor in the verse of "I'm Set Free" become a D major in the chorus and, if so, why does nobody play it that way?
― God gave toilets rolls to you, gave toilet rolls to you (Tom D.), Thursday, 19 March 2020 21:32 (four years ago) link
It would make sense because the verse is wistful and melancholic and the chorus is hopeful and uplifting.
― God gave toilets rolls to you, gave toilet rolls to you (Tom D.), Thursday, 19 March 2020 21:34 (four years ago) link
... I mean, the "I'm set free to find a new illusion" bit, in case of confusion.
― God gave toilets rolls to you, gave toilet rolls to you (Tom D.), Thursday, 19 March 2020 21:35 (four years ago) link
yeah my bad, there's not an extra minor in the sunday morning verse, but as tim points out, it goes to the vi not the ii
― ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Thursday, 19 March 2020 21:38 (four years ago) link
Yes on the D major in the "I'm Set Free" chorus. That's a V/V chord, too (like the chord they go to on "It's nothing at ALL" in the "Sunday Morning" chorus).
― timellison, Thursday, 19 March 2020 23:14 (four years ago) link
böc's 'shooting shark' was a prophet foretelling the birth of pink floyd's 'sorrow'
― mookieproof, Saturday, 21 March 2020 01:34 (four years ago) link
“This Land Is Your Land” and “You Are My Sunshine.”
― morrisp, Thursday, 2 April 2020 19:50 (four years ago) link
“If you leave” and “hungry heart”
― brimstead, Thursday, 2 April 2020 19:53 (four years ago) link
lol such a good call. weirdly I like one of those a lot and can’t tolerate the other for more than a minute...
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 8 April 2020 04:02 (four years ago) link
Buck Owens - Santa Looked a Lot Like Daddy John Prine - Jesus the Missing Years
― anatomy of a buttless wonder (unregistered), Monday, 13 April 2020 02:40 (four years ago) link
the intros of R.E.M.'s "Find the River" and Nick Drake's "Northern Sky"
I have probably said this itt but I hear Lisa Loeb "Stay" in the intro to "Find the River."
Arpeggiate, STRUMMM; appreciate, STRUMMM
Hey there little speedyhead
You say, I only hear what I want to
Just listened to "Northern Sky" and yeah. All have different second chords though?
Find D A7Stay D BmSky D Em
― Fleetwood Machiavelli (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 13 April 2020 12:07 (four years ago) link
“Over the Rainbow” has some similarities with “Song to the Moon” from Rusalka.
― Three Hundred Pounds of Almond Joy (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 14 April 2020 18:00 (four years ago) link
I never played the second chord as an A7 on "Find the River." I think it's E-G-D-F#.
You could say that's an Emin9 chord minus the fifth, but I hear it as step-wise alterations of the tonic chord (D up to E, A down to G).
― timellison, Tuesday, 14 April 2020 18:41 (four years ago) link
"Step-wise alterations of the tonic chord" - I guess this is my way of talking about things that Peter Buck does a lot.
― timellison, Tuesday, 14 April 2020 18:43 (four years ago) link
Listening now, I hear the bass goes up to E, though. No issues with calling it an E minor extended chord.
― timellison, Tuesday, 14 April 2020 19:10 (four years ago) link
I haven't played it for years but just tried it and yeah, it sounds like some flavor of Em
― Fleetwood Machiavelli (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 14 April 2020 19:34 (four years ago) link
Some Funkadelic song - on Cosmic Slop? "March to the Witch's Castle"? sounds like Donald Byrd's version of "Cristo Redentor."
― Three Hundred Pounds of Almond Joy (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 19 April 2020 14:26 (four years ago) link
Which is probably the original version, written by Duke Pearson.
― Three Hundred Pounds of Almond Joy (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 19 April 2020 14:28 (four years ago) link
It is.
To circle back to the beginning, "Waking Up" also sounds very much like "Sally's Revolution" by Grant McLennan.
― last updated a group of five done twelve times ago (geoffreyess), Monday, 20 April 2020 15:05 (four years ago) link
Pet Shop Boys "You Only Tell Me You Love Me When You're Drunk" ≈ Magnetic Fields "I Have the Moon" ≈ Billy Bragg "Mother of the Bride"
― last updated a group of five done twelve times ago (geoffreyess), Monday, 20 April 2020 15:09 (four years ago) link
the theme to cheers ("sometimes you wanna go where everybody knows your name") is a total ripoff of elton john's "border song"
― reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 02:33 (four years ago) link
Tangerine Dream's 'Love On A Real Train' is basically a four-minute excerpt from 'Music For 18 Musicians' by Steve Reich, except on electronic rather than acoustic instruments.
― mirostones, Saturday, 25 April 2020 12:19 (four years ago) link
The beginning of this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nocturne_in_E_minor,_Op._posth._72_(Chopin) sounds exactly like the beginning of Manhã de Carnaval.
― Together Again Or (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 29 April 2020 21:08 (four years ago) link
the theme to cheers ("sometimes you wanna go where everybody knows your name") is a total ripoff of elton john's "border song"not really hearing it...
― I eat fast foods (morrisp), Wednesday, 29 April 2020 21:20 (four years ago) link
listen to the opening piano riff in each song
― reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 29 April 2020 21:35 (four years ago) link
I hear the similarity there, but "total ripoff" seems extreme... though what do I know, I didn't predict the "Blurred Lines" outcome.
― I eat fast foods (morrisp), Wednesday, 29 April 2020 21:45 (four years ago) link
okay "total ripoff" may be a bit hyperbolic but still, they're pretty close!
― reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 29 April 2020 21:49 (four years ago) link
By the way, to circle back to the Katy Perry case I have been tracking in this thread (to no one's interest): the plaintiff is now appealing to the Ninth Circuit. (As a refresher: the original verdict in his favor was overturned in March.) Given how Led Zeppelin fared before the 9th Circuit recently, the odds may be in favor of Perry et al.
― I eat fast foods (morrisp), Wednesday, 29 April 2020 22:00 (four years ago) link
Kid is playing that Nocturne again for her lesson right now.
― My Chess Hustler (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 16:17 (four years ago) link
the main riff of katie pruitt's "expectations" can't help but evoke the theme song from last week tonight with john oliver
― sleight return (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 21:55 (four years ago) link
just struck by how much "Mary in the Morning" sounds like "Sunday Morning" and it's not just the glockenspiel (although it's probably the glockenspiel)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p39E2OUSfQ8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qK82JvRY5s
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Monday, 18 May 2020 06:28 (four years ago) link
Been listening all day to the fabtrabulously awesome Dare! album by the Human League. What a great album this is! I love discovering great albums. But anyway you can pretty much play “Spot Who Homaged Us/Ripped Us Off” on here. “Darkness” is mid-to-late-80s Depeche Mode. “Love Action” is “The Simple Life” by the Juan Maclean. “Don’t You Want Me” does the flat disaffected electroclash vocal style. The “Hard Times” bassline reminds me of “Somebody That I Used to Know” (though that one’s a bit of a stretch, I admit). And MOST EGREGIOUSLY OF ALL you might as well sing “I’m ready for the shuffle, ready for the deal, ready to let go of the steering wheel” as the opening verse of “Seconds”.
― Mr. Snrub, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 19:59 (four years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FR3H8TY3iGg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwtykH7ey_0
brian jonestown massacre - panic in babylonokay temiz & johnny dyani - doktor / play for me
― budo jeru, Friday, 5 June 2020 16:56 (four years ago) link
Work Drugs - Prime
https://youtu.be/TU5HrNEFPeo
Sounds way too much like Roxette’s listen to your heart. I can’t find the credits but I hope they sorted it out.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 8 June 2020 18:49 (four years ago) link
the Census 2020 commercial uses strings that initially resemble the opening of Forgot About Dre before revealing its really just some neo-Free Design sounding shit
― Dig Dug the police (Neanderthal), Monday, 8 June 2020 23:07 (four years ago) link
Which imagine dragons song is this again? https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=geQ7Xkm_CdE
― Deflatormouse, Tuesday, 9 June 2020 01:33 (four years ago) link
jolene & forever autumn
― massaman gai (front tea for two), Saturday, 13 June 2020 20:29 (four years ago) link
Evanescence's new single Wasted on You sounds like Radiohead's 'Creep'. no one listens to Evanescence in 2020.
― stop trying to make fetch the bolt cutters happen (unregistered), Sunday, 14 June 2020 15:10 (four years ago) link
the first two chords are the same, but not much else
― Dig Dug the police (Neanderthal), Sunday, 14 June 2020 15:18 (four years ago) link
but it's a shit song so
yeah, I guess you're right. the first five seconds of the song are practically a disclaimer that it's gonna be warmed-over glurge straight through, so idk why I was fool enough to keep listening
― stop trying to make fetch the bolt cutters happen (unregistered), Sunday, 14 June 2020 15:26 (four years ago) link
My wife and I were in Target today; a ringing guitar intro was playing over the PA.ME: What’s this Strokes rip-off song?HER: You’re gonna laugh when you realize what it is.The vocals come in: She was an American girl....#moded― i’m still stanning (morrisp), Saturday, July 14, 2018 ^Just wanted to follow this up with something even dumber (from today):*a song plays from my wife’s phone*Me: Is that Free Design?Her: What?Me: The band playing... is it Free Design?Her: uh, it’s the Carpenters. You’re too hipster for this room, buddy.
― Charging for Brewskis™ (morrisp), Tuesday, 16 June 2020 07:29 (four years ago) link