I have the usual trouble, and I suppose it's a minority opinion: I don't need so many instrumentals or quasi-instrumentals.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 16:29 (four years ago) link
yeah they do this no favors. save it for the EPs lads
― k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 16:31 (four years ago) link
there are four and i'd say "having no head" and "shiny collarbone" rule and the other two are very short and pretty framing devices for "frail state of mind" and "the birthday party"
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 16:33 (four years ago) link
"shiny collarbone" being the only thing i can think of as something y'all would consider a "quasi-instrumental" i guess
everything else is fully formed
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 16:35 (four years ago) link
i don't get the complaints about the sequencing at all. if you wanna say there's filler ok, i disagree & think the instrumentals/electronic tracks stand up on their own but it's 22 tracks so i get you. but from a sequencing perspective i find it quite beautiful and cohesive. the last album jumped around wildly in terms of style & for that reason i haven't listened to it front to back in ages, but here i think they're working in a pretty established aesthetic continuum. electronica, shoegaze-y guitars, folk/country... stuff like this has interacted in tons of different ways for ages, the juxtaposition of textures on this album makes total sense to me. also love that the album has this warm center, they transition into and out of it w/ colder electronic and soundscapey production in a way that i think is quite effective. a lot of you guys are tripping imo.
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 19 May 2020 16:37 (four years ago) link
i guess the intro counts too but i listen to that thing front-to-back every time! yasss greta hurt my feelings about mass extinction xp
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 16:38 (four years ago) link
on a stan nerd level it's like they dove back into the EP aesthetic and blew it up into its own world in a way that is distinctly post-everything that came after it and for that reason i think it's a kick ass record too
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 19 May 2020 16:39 (four years ago) link
booming posts j0rd
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 16:40 (four years ago) link
this record has made me realize that I don't like matty all that much anymore, or at least not enough to spend 80 minutes with ~matty thoughts~
― k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 16:41 (four years ago) link
10. "Roadkill" 11. "Me & You Together Song" 12. "I Think There's Something You Should Know" 13. "Nothing Revealed / Everything Denied"14. "Tonight (I Wish I Was Your Boy)" 15. "Shiny Collarbone"16. "If You're Too Shy (Let Me Know)" 17. "Playing on My Mind"18. "Having No Head" 19. "What Should I Say"
i'm seriously just looking at this and laughing
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 19 May 2020 16:42 (four years ago) link
nothing but hits
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 16:42 (four years ago) link
on a stan nerd level it's like they dove back into the EP aesthetic and blew it up into its own world in a way that is distinctly post-everything that came after it
can you develop this?
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 16:43 (four years ago) link
i do not understand what is objectionable about the lyrics
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 16:43 (four years ago) link
"what should i say" is completely doing my head in haha
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 19 May 2020 16:43 (four years ago) link
"Tonight" sounds like Passion Pit
― k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 16:43 (four years ago) link
there's nothing wrong with them really, I just find him exhausting at this length
― k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 16:45 (four years ago) link
On a purely aural level, it's their most delicious. The confidence of the singles -- their strongest run imo -- does complement the quieter Burial/Radiohead stuff; Healy can make these fabulous declarative statements, then disappear into the music for a while ("Shiny Collarbone," "Yeah I Know") before reemerging. It plays like a deejay set.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 16:47 (four years ago) link
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, May 19, 2020 12:43 PM (thirty seconds ago)
to me the overarching palate of this album is the electronic/shoegazey sound of the EPs, but it's also distinctly post-everything the band made after those EPs (maybe that part wasn't quite clear). there's the neo-soul stuff, the "tootime"ish pop, the cheesey "she's american" 80s numbers, acoustic tracks and flirting w/ country, the orchestral stuff from the last album. some of it is fully self-referential as well... "nothing revealed" opens in a way that calls back to "sincerity is scary" etc. again it all strikes me as pretty coherent as a standalone record and w/in the context of the band's career arc.
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 19 May 2020 16:49 (four years ago) link
On a purely aural level, it's their most delicious.
i think i agree!
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 19 May 2020 16:50 (four years ago) link
yeah i was gonna add to your point j0rd that it's like what would happen if the eps were released after a brief inquiry, so it's almost a more in-focus version of them, this mutable liquid space that can just as easily result in something like "roadkill" as "bagsy not in net" (incredible song btw vastly underrated itt)
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 16:53 (four years ago) link
this is the album i've always wanted them to make without knowing it lol
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 16:56 (four years ago) link
bagsy not in net
― megan thee macallan 18 year (||||||||), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 16:57 (four years ago) link
It plays like a deejay set.
yup
― k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 16:58 (four years ago) link
The strings on "Bagsy..." remind me of Christopher Cross' "Sailing"!
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 16:58 (four years ago) link
OI MATES SOME BIG BOTTOM BIRD IS ALL OVER THE NEWSY WEWSIES, I"M GONNA MAKE ME A 'ORRIBLE POST ABOUT IT TO ME ILXOR CHUMS, ALSO BLOOD SAUSAGE IS DELICIOUS BAGSY NOT IN NET
― megan thee macallan 18 year (||||||||), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 16:59 (four years ago) link
lmao
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 17:00 (four years ago) link
j0rd thank-you for those posts, particularly the one referencing the EPs.really interesting to think about.
i think i'm falling completely in love with this thing.
― ripersnifle, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 17:01 (four years ago) link
downright shocked at how many times i've listened to an 80-minute record today
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 17:06 (four years ago) link
the chorus melody/harmony on "roadkill" is absolutely haunting
― ripersnifle, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 17:08 (four years ago) link
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, May 19, 2020 12:56 PM (twelve minutes ago)
yes!
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 19 May 2020 17:10 (four years ago) link
other than a long walk earlier, I've gotten no work b/c I'm listening to this frustrating, beautiful album for the fifth time and discussing with favorite colleagues.
#covid4ever
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 17:14 (four years ago) link
i can't stop looping "tonight..."
― ripersnifle, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 18:03 (four years ago) link
just an absolutely immaculate track
― ripersnifle, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 18:06 (four years ago) link
girlsfoodgear
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 18:20 (four years ago) link
the "chorus" payoff of "what should i say" is actually a bit underwhelming i'm finding. wish it wasn't wordless - feels a bit too spotifycore imo.
― ripersnifle, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 18:29 (four years ago) link
live "birthday party" :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5RYo3TnhG8&feature=emb_title
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 19 May 2020 19:54 (four years ago) link
i'm going through the whole catalog today baby!!! band of the fucking decade!!!!!
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 20:01 (four years ago) link
i spent the all day without the chance to hear this. i can't wait for what will happen in the next 80 minutes.
― Nourry, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 20:13 (four years ago) link
ever listen to "head.cars.bending" when you're really stoned
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 20:21 (four years ago) link
yes, highly recommended
have not heard this yet but encouraging signs include 1) the singles, 2) jordan and brad being all in 3) posts that start with “on a stan nerd level”
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 19 May 2020 20:36 (four years ago) link
They really weren’t kidding about this thing having Burial beats!
― josh az (2011nostalgia), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 20:41 (four years ago) link
The confidence of the singles -- their strongest run imo -- does complement the quieter Burial/Radiohead stuff; Healy can make these fabulous declarative statements, then disappear into the music for a while ("Shiny Collarbone," "Yeah I Know") before reemerging. It plays like a deejay set.
Yeah. I got to know the 1975 through the music first, and only later started taking note of matty as a public figure. He has a big personality, obviously, but seems very assured and clear eyed on when to play the solipsism angle for artistic effect, and when to just get out, and make room for other sentiments.
― Josh (phantompenguin), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 20:43 (four years ago) link
"if you're too shy" into "playing on my mind" into "having no head" into "what should i say" into "bagsy" really feels like the fully developed original thesis of the band to me. like if you heard the EP/first album and then that stretch it would make total sense to you as "growth" even if you hadn't heard the stuff in between
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 19 May 2020 21:02 (four years ago) link
I would like to hear more about “tonight”
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 19 May 2020 21:25 (four years ago) link
'bagsy not in net' is channeling deep the streets-weak become heroes vibes.this record is so weird and wonderful.
― Nourry, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 21:55 (four years ago) link
Bagsy Not in Net is 100% sampling the intro to "Sailing", right?
― MarkoP, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 23:11 (four years ago) link
I would like to hear more about “tonight”its a gorgeous sophisti-pop track built around a temptations sample
― ufo, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 23:50 (four years ago) link
did this leak or something?
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 00:24 (four years ago) link
yeah
― ufo, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 00:33 (four years ago) link
i can kinda forgive the sequencing for being so weird because i really have no idea how you'd make something that flows at all coherently out of this stylistic grab bag. but iliwys was almost as long and expansive and that's a masterpiece of sequencing so, you know, i have high expectations for this band.
i did already make a radically resequenced playlist that cuts out like a third of the album and i like it a lot better but there's a lot of stuff that i like fine but couldn't make fit at all.
― ufo, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 00:54 (four years ago) link