this is the album i've always wanted them to make without knowing it lol
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 16:56 (four years ago) link
bagsy not in net
― megan thee macallan 18 year (||||||||), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 16:57 (four years ago) link
It plays like a deejay set.
yup
― k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 16:58 (four years ago) link
The strings on "Bagsy..." remind me of Christopher Cross' "Sailing"!
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 16:58 (four years ago) link
OI MATES SOME BIG BOTTOM BIRD IS ALL OVER THE NEWSY WEWSIES, I"M GONNA MAKE ME A 'ORRIBLE POST ABOUT IT TO ME ILXOR CHUMS, ALSO BLOOD SAUSAGE IS DELICIOUS BAGSY NOT IN NET
― megan thee macallan 18 year (||||||||), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 16:59 (four years ago) link
lmao
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 17:00 (four years ago) link
j0rd thank-you for those posts, particularly the one referencing the EPs.really interesting to think about.
i think i'm falling completely in love with this thing.
― ripersnifle, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 17:01 (four years ago) link
downright shocked at how many times i've listened to an 80-minute record today
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 17:06 (four years ago) link
the chorus melody/harmony on "roadkill" is absolutely haunting
― ripersnifle, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 17:08 (four years ago) link
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, May 19, 2020 12:56 PM (twelve minutes ago)
yes!
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 19 May 2020 17:10 (four years ago) link
other than a long walk earlier, I've gotten no work b/c I'm listening to this frustrating, beautiful album for the fifth time and discussing with favorite colleagues.
#covid4ever
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 17:14 (four years ago) link
i can't stop looping "tonight..."
― ripersnifle, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 18:03 (four years ago) link
just an absolutely immaculate track
― ripersnifle, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 18:06 (four years ago) link
girlsfoodgear
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 18:20 (four years ago) link
the "chorus" payoff of "what should i say" is actually a bit underwhelming i'm finding. wish it wasn't wordless - feels a bit too spotifycore imo.
― ripersnifle, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 18:29 (four years ago) link
live "birthday party" :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5RYo3TnhG8&feature=emb_title
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 19 May 2020 19:54 (four years ago) link
i'm going through the whole catalog today baby!!! band of the fucking decade!!!!!
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 20:01 (four years ago) link
i spent the all day without the chance to hear this. i can't wait for what will happen in the next 80 minutes.
― Nourry, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 20:13 (four years ago) link
ever listen to "head.cars.bending" when you're really stoned
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 20:21 (four years ago) link
yes, highly recommended
have not heard this yet but encouraging signs include 1) the singles, 2) jordan and brad being all in 3) posts that start with “on a stan nerd level”
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 19 May 2020 20:36 (four years ago) link
They really weren’t kidding about this thing having Burial beats!
― josh az (2011nostalgia), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 20:41 (four years ago) link
The confidence of the singles -- their strongest run imo -- does complement the quieter Burial/Radiohead stuff; Healy can make these fabulous declarative statements, then disappear into the music for a while ("Shiny Collarbone," "Yeah I Know") before reemerging. It plays like a deejay set.
Yeah. I got to know the 1975 through the music first, and only later started taking note of matty as a public figure. He has a big personality, obviously, but seems very assured and clear eyed on when to play the solipsism angle for artistic effect, and when to just get out, and make room for other sentiments.
― Josh (phantompenguin), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 20:43 (four years ago) link
"if you're too shy" into "playing on my mind" into "having no head" into "what should i say" into "bagsy" really feels like the fully developed original thesis of the band to me. like if you heard the EP/first album and then that stretch it would make total sense to you as "growth" even if you hadn't heard the stuff in between
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 19 May 2020 21:02 (four years ago) link
I would like to hear more about “tonight”
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 19 May 2020 21:25 (four years ago) link
'bagsy not in net' is channeling deep the streets-weak become heroes vibes.this record is so weird and wonderful.
― Nourry, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 21:55 (four years ago) link
Bagsy Not in Net is 100% sampling the intro to "Sailing", right?
― MarkoP, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 23:11 (four years ago) link
I would like to hear more about “tonight”its a gorgeous sophisti-pop track built around a temptations sample
― ufo, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 23:50 (four years ago) link
did this leak or something?
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 00:24 (four years ago) link
yeah
― ufo, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 00:33 (four years ago) link
i can kinda forgive the sequencing for being so weird because i really have no idea how you'd make something that flows at all coherently out of this stylistic grab bag. but iliwys was almost as long and expansive and that's a masterpiece of sequencing so, you know, i have high expectations for this band.
i did already make a radically resequenced playlist that cuts out like a third of the album and i like it a lot better but there's a lot of stuff that i like fine but couldn't make fit at all.
― ufo, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 00:54 (four years ago) link
a lot of the shorter tracks feel like interludes but they don't actually work to bridge anything so they're just jarring where they are. like "bagsy not in net" is a nice enough loop but i wish they'd done more with it or placed it somewhere it would have actually worked as an interlude. "shiny collarbone" is a bit more substantial but the same thing goes for it. "then because she goes" is a great half of a song but again the sequencing does it no favours at all.
the other tracks that i like the least are "yeah i know" which has potential but just doesn't have enough to it to keep me interested, and "what should i say" which is a nice groove but i don't care for the vocals at all and it's just lacking something.
another thing with the sequencing is the start of the album is soooo slow with the 5 minute ambient/greta intro and another 4 minutes of orchestral interludes in the first 15 minutes.
the singles are all pretty much perfect except "people" and even that's grown on me. "roadkill" and "i think there's something you should know" are perfect too. "playing on my mind" is very good, it's nice they've finally gotten the acoustic tracks right on this album. no one's really said anything about "don't worry" but it's gorgeous. i'm not blown away by either "tonight" or "nothing revealed/everything denied" but they're still quite good. i like "having no head" a fair bit but not quite as much as "how to draw/petrichor" or the iliwys title track as far as their 6 minute electronic pieces go.
here's my current attempt at resequencing it to satisfy my frustrations with it:The End (Music For Cars)Frail State Of MindMe & You Together SongRoadkillJesus Christ 2005 God Bless AmericaThe Birthday PartyHaving No HeadI Think There's Something You Should KnowShiny CollarboneTonight (I Wish I Was Your Boy)Nothing Revealed / Everything DeniedPlaying On My MindIf You're Too Shy (Let Me Know)Don't WorryGuys
i'm still not quite sure if this sequence is better with or without "shiny collarbone" there but in the spirit of the album i'm keeping it around for now. i really could not make "then because she goes" fit anywhere unfortunately. i've never been huge on "people".
― ufo, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 02:59 (four years ago) link
"what should i say" which is a nice groove but i don't care for the vocals at all and it's just lacking something
????????????????????????????
ok i'll stop lol
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 13:46 (four years ago) link
you did prove that you can edit this tight 80 minute record into a tight 58 minute record (which iirc is the length of a brief inquiry)
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 13:47 (four years ago) link
this album is so many things but it's the opposite of tight
to be clear, outside of the like three tracks i'm not too into, everything on this album ranges from 'very good' to 'the best thing they've ever done'. this is a very good record in spite of the baffling sequencing which actively detracts from it. i've probably been a little too negative due to being underwhelmed on first listen, there's so much to love here anyway.
anyway i want a 10 minute version of "i think there's something you should know"
― ufo, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 14:07 (four years ago) link
my edit is like 52 mins but I dare not share it lol
― k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 14:08 (four years ago) link
58 mins already feels very sex and the city 2
― megan thee macallan 18 year (||||||||), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 14:12 (four years ago) link
idk album feels like it whips by for me despite being 80 minutes. might be an oxymoron to consider that "tight" but
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 14:13 (four years ago) link
it does manage to get away with its length somehow through sheer variety
there was a recent interview where matty said it might be interesting to make the next album short "like hats or spirit of eden" so i'm expecting we'll get their first official double album instead
― ufo, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 14:20 (four years ago) link
"like hats or spirit of eden"
:))))))
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 20 May 2020 15:10 (four years ago) link
is "yeah i know" the best song i've ever heard
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 16:18 (four years ago) link
laughing at how incredible this is
― überweiss, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 17:33 (four years ago) link
the appropriate response
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 20 May 2020 18:00 (four years ago) link
the way I know I'm a bad fan for sure is I that I don't like "guys"
― k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 18:14 (four years ago) link
I don't even really mean this as a knock but this album is a very weird kind of "eclectic" where (with the exception of "people") it's not so much 22 different styles as it is five very specific styles done a few times each to varying degrees of success (dubstep inflected pop, folky tunes, c86 worship, more "straightforward" 80s style/"early 1975" pop songs, gauzy insturmentals)
― k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 18:18 (four years ago) link
btw through arguing with someone over whether the instrumental tracks on this album are any good, another person mentioned "the end" is kind of an orchestral rearrangement of "hnscc" from the music for cars ep. i knew it sounded familiar!!!! it also sounds a lot like "lostmyhead," the vocal melody of which first appeared in "facedown" from the first ep; have to think that's on purpose
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 18:33 (four years ago) link
motific composition has been rebranded as repetition in our stupid capitalist economy; this band's tendency to use similar chord progressions and hooks across their oeuvre is a strength
― Vapor waif (uptown churl), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 19:08 (four years ago) link
Is anyone actually knocking them for that
― k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 19:21 (four years ago) link
the run of the last six songs on a brief inquiry is so good
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 20:47 (four years ago) link
cant wait to hear
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 21:30 (four years ago) link
I did try to find the leak but gave up after a while, will wait for Friday I guess.
Matty saying "like hats or spirit of eden" is trolling the OG nerd-stans ITT (and me in particular), but coincidentally I have been listening to Steve Jansen and Richard Barbieri's 'Stories Across Borders' which (a) is the exact midpoint of those two records and (b) is 35 minutes long, and if the 1975 give me something in that vein next I'll take it.
― Tim F, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 22:25 (four years ago) link