i follow way too many dummies on twitter who think they're so above giving this band a chance or any positive attention
― alpine static, Friday, 22 May 2020 22:53 (four years ago) link
its funny how they were too pop for the haters originally and now theyre too pretentious art rock nonsense or whatever
― ufo, Saturday, 23 May 2020 00:07 (four years ago) link
I find this band to be a hard sell to my friends. listening to this album reminds me of the experience of listening to music as a teenager. not sure if those two things are related
― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Saturday, 23 May 2020 01:04 (four years ago) link
Until now, I did not realize that Tonight also is based around a sample of Hiroshi Sato's Say Goodbye, as well as the aforementioned Temptations sample.
― MarkoP, Saturday, 23 May 2020 01:33 (four years ago) link
Why isn't anyone talking about the song Matty did with his dad, am I the only softy in here
― self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Saturday, 23 May 2020 01:39 (four years ago) link
the end of "roadkill" has me imagining him writing a song for little big town
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 23 May 2020 04:19 (four years ago) link
yes
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 23 May 2020 04:22 (four years ago) link
best 2 opening songs ever lmao
― flopson, Saturday, 23 May 2020 05:29 (four years ago) link
A quick playlist.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 23 May 2020 06:35 (four years ago) link
"bagsy not in net" is what i imagine the unreleased air france uk garage album sounds like
does matty know about air france
― ufo, Saturday, 23 May 2020 09:02 (four years ago) link
ok let's do this
intro into People is actually amazing lol
― imago, Saturday, 23 May 2020 13:14 (four years ago) link
and then a completely baffling instrumental lol i see they're going for some sort of total-fragmentation vibe
― imago, Saturday, 23 May 2020 13:19 (four years ago) link
I thought “the end (music for cars)” was a little trite the first time I heard it but I’m into it now
― k3vin k., Saturday, 23 May 2020 13:45 (four years ago) link
this sort of negotiates its way through various fragmented & intense moods to a complete freakout/breakdown at around nothing revealed/everything denied -> tonight (i wish i was your boy), v intrigued how it negotiates its way back (or if it does)
― imago, Saturday, 23 May 2020 13:57 (four years ago) link
"If You're Too Shy" is the song I'm gonna listen to a million times
― Joey Corona (Euler), Saturday, 23 May 2020 13:58 (four years ago) link
'shiny collarbone' continues to exist within the madness, this is all building up to 'if you're too shy' isn't it
― imago, Saturday, 23 May 2020 13:59 (four years ago) link
yes, after which the true breakdown happens imo
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 23 May 2020 14:00 (four years ago) link
this feels like the true expansion/refinement of ILIWYS (for example 'if you're too shy' is reminiscent of 'change of heart', 'she's american' AND 'this must be my dream' but approached from a new, slightly grander angle), last album shd have been the Love It If We Made It EP ;)
― imago, Saturday, 23 May 2020 14:07 (four years ago) link
[whichever of the lesser singles you prefer]how to draw/petrichorLIIWMI[whichever of the deep cuts you inexplicably love]i always wanna die (sometimes)
i digress
― imago, Saturday, 23 May 2020 14:12 (four years ago) link
rn i'm just thinking about how good "the birthday party" is
:)
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 23 May 2020 14:14 (four years ago) link
these last few tracks feel really confident, like something has been overcome. like they're drawing power from the madness, or that they're okay with it. the basslines are very emphatic
― imago, Saturday, 23 May 2020 14:16 (four years ago) link
i feel like it's less of a refinement of ILIWYS and more of an explosion of it. the coherent widescreen emotional arc of ILIWYS has been blown up, leaving behind extreme fragmentation. i still don't really like or get the sequencing but i can't deny it's interesting
― ufo, Saturday, 23 May 2020 14:18 (four years ago) link
'the end' and 'roadkill' were the weird tonal jumps for me, everything else has sort of made sense, but i expect those to make sense as well eventually
― imago, Saturday, 23 May 2020 14:21 (four years ago) link
i love the way matty sings "i'm just a BUSY GUY" in "roadkill" so much lol
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 23 May 2020 14:29 (four years ago) link
great closer, great album. their best
― imago, Saturday, 23 May 2020 14:29 (four years ago) link
throw this entire band in jail if they don’t release a 20 minute cut of “then because she goes”
― k3vin k., Saturday, 23 May 2020 14:34 (four years ago) link
i never fucked in a car, i was lyingi do it on my bed, lying down, not trying
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 23 May 2020 14:45 (four years ago) link
"playing on my mind" is the sort of song they've done several times before ("nana", "she lays down") that I've just never been able to settle into
― k3vin k., Saturday, 23 May 2020 14:49 (four years ago) link
"what should I say" !!!!!!
― k3vin k., Saturday, 23 May 2020 14:55 (four years ago) link
this is their “wowed zowee”. incredible album
― k3vin k., Saturday, 23 May 2020 15:16 (four years ago) link
either their best or second best after 'i like it when you sleep'
― flopson, Saturday, 23 May 2020 17:01 (four years ago) link
i rolled my eyes when i first heard it but the greta thunberg spoken word made me cry last nite lol
I can see why some people never give this band a chance. They’re awfully all over the place. I get fans view this as a feature, not a bug.
I’ve warmed up to them a bit - partly through repeated listens of “somebody else” and “love it if we made it”, which are undeniably some of the best pop/rock? songs of the past decade - but the rabid fandom is still unexplainable to me. They have one or two songs every album in which I can almost see it, but then the rest of it loses me.
That said, this album is still all over the place, but was more enjoyable to me on first listens than any other previous ones.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 23 May 2020 17:15 (four years ago) link
“If you’re too shy” is my favorite one on first impression. I think I might only like them when they’re doing the 80’s thing.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 23 May 2020 17:18 (four years ago) link
Ok just relistened to that one and that song is IT. The one giving me the urge to replay on loop. Here goes my third play.
Even if the rest of the album was terrible that song alone makes the admission price worth it.
What band’s style does it remind me of? Is it The Cars?
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 23 May 2020 17:29 (four years ago) link
Me and my brother regularly share records we should listen to. And he is a gay dude who told me about the Carly b side record before I knew about it, so he’s not pop-unfriendly. But I told him today that this is album of the year potential and he was really anti, even compared the band to muse ??? I think a lot of people have people have really bad perceptions of them that I don’t think many people have about things these days, it feels a bit more 90s knee-jerk rockism than most things have, to the point where it’s hard to notice other modern examples
― a hoy hoy, Saturday, 23 May 2020 21:20 (four years ago) link
i would like to apologize for any previous negative statements i may have made about “frail state of mind”
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 23 May 2020 23:18 (four years ago) link
its painful to me as a punk rock doofus that they are *so* good at rocking out but rarely take the opportunity to for more than 1 or 2 songs per album
i feel like between this album and the last one they have like, 10 songs in the vein of “Jesus Christ 2005”, but only pull out the gnarly post punk chops like 3 times max
― flopson, Sunday, 24 May 2020 00:06 (four years ago) link
they dont have that many acoustic songs and none of them were as good as the ones on this album
― ufo, Sunday, 24 May 2020 00:08 (four years ago) link
The rocking song is so much of a McLusky/Future of the Left ripoff it kind of irritates me
This album is good, just skip the first three tracks and I don't find it "challenging" at all
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 24 May 2020 00:12 (four years ago) link
I like the acoustic songs too i just want an album worth and not just “lol what if the first song on every album after the intro we were the worlds best post punk band but only for that song”. i want them to up the ratio, like to get equal to the ratio of garage songs or instrumentals
― flopson, Sunday, 24 May 2020 00:12 (four years ago) link
i don’t think it’s that much of a ripoff (mb i listen to too many bands that sound like that that wasn’t even the first reference) but it’s better than anything they’ve done in at least a decade imho
― flopson, Sunday, 24 May 2020 00:19 (four years ago) link
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 24 May 2020 01:12 (five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
People = https://youtu.be/CvICqhQzExI
― a hoy hoy, Sunday, 24 May 2020 00:20 (four years ago) link
the shoegaze moment of 'then because she goes' is also stunning as rock-outs go
― imago, Sunday, 24 May 2020 00:20 (four years ago) link
Re: sequencing, I find 80 minute albums are too long to digest as albums, and I don't often listen to them in one sitting. So the sequencing here doesn't really bother me. "The End" is the only song that has stuck out to me for taking the energy immediately back down after "People"
― Vinnie, Sunday, 24 May 2020 00:25 (four years ago) link
― J0rdan S., Saturday, May 23, 2020 7:18 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
same here but for “people”
― k3vin k., Sunday, 24 May 2020 12:40 (four years ago) link
*polishes “i have always been correct about ‘people’ by the 1975” trophy*
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Sunday, 24 May 2020 12:41 (four years ago) link
I can't imagine listening to most of this often but it's definitely impressive, they're reaaaally good stylistic mimics. I love pretty much all of the UK garage-y tracks.
'What Should I Say' feels like it was written right after hearing Kanye's 'Fade'.
'Me & You Together Song' is both fascinating & repellent as a pastiche (of what exactly, Oasis and certain '90s corporate alt-pop?), with that over-swung rhythm feel that's really gross.
― change display name (Jordan), Friday, May 22, 2020 3:56 PM (two days ago) bookmarkflaglink
great post, I’ve been thinking about “fascinating and repellent pastiche” since last night and I think it’s a compelling critique of them as a band, and also what makes them both so rousing and so polarizing: the shamelessness with which they try so many different looks, how convincingly they pull most of it off, how excruciatingly sincere they are when so many other bands would coat their ambition with irony...band of the decade
― k3vin k., Sunday, 24 May 2020 12:49 (four years ago) link
brad you are always right you don’t have to rub it in
― k3vin k., Sunday, 24 May 2020 12:50 (four years ago) link
At Target yesterday I bought this thing on CD b/c why not
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 24 May 2020 12:53 (four years ago) link