they dont have that many acoustic songs and none of them were as good as the ones on this album
― ufo, Sunday, 24 May 2020 00:08 (four years ago) link
The rocking song is so much of a McLusky/Future of the Left ripoff it kind of irritates me
This album is good, just skip the first three tracks and I don't find it "challenging" at all
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 24 May 2020 00:12 (four years ago) link
I like the acoustic songs too i just want an album worth and not just “lol what if the first song on every album after the intro we were the worlds best post punk band but only for that song”. i want them to up the ratio, like to get equal to the ratio of garage songs or instrumentals
― flopson, Sunday, 24 May 2020 00:12 (four years ago) link
i don’t think it’s that much of a ripoff (mb i listen to too many bands that sound like that that wasn’t even the first reference) but it’s better than anything they’ve done in at least a decade imho
― flopson, Sunday, 24 May 2020 00:19 (four years ago) link
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 24 May 2020 01:12 (five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
People = https://youtu.be/CvICqhQzExI
― a hoy hoy, Sunday, 24 May 2020 00:20 (four years ago) link
the shoegaze moment of 'then because she goes' is also stunning as rock-outs go
― imago, Sunday, 24 May 2020 00:20 (four years ago) link
Re: sequencing, I find 80 minute albums are too long to digest as albums, and I don't often listen to them in one sitting. So the sequencing here doesn't really bother me. "The End" is the only song that has stuck out to me for taking the energy immediately back down after "People"
― Vinnie, Sunday, 24 May 2020 00:25 (four years ago) link
i would like to apologize for any previous negative statements i may have made about “frail state of mind”
― J0rdan S., Saturday, May 23, 2020 7:18 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
same here but for “people”
― k3vin k., Sunday, 24 May 2020 12:40 (four years ago) link
*polishes “i have always been correct about ‘people’ by the 1975” trophy*
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Sunday, 24 May 2020 12:41 (four years ago) link
I can't imagine listening to most of this often but it's definitely impressive, they're reaaaally good stylistic mimics. I love pretty much all of the UK garage-y tracks.
'What Should I Say' feels like it was written right after hearing Kanye's 'Fade'.
'Me & You Together Song' is both fascinating & repellent as a pastiche (of what exactly, Oasis and certain '90s corporate alt-pop?), with that over-swung rhythm feel that's really gross.
― change display name (Jordan), Friday, May 22, 2020 3:56 PM (two days ago) bookmarkflaglink
great post, I’ve been thinking about “fascinating and repellent pastiche” since last night and I think it’s a compelling critique of them as a band, and also what makes them both so rousing and so polarizing: the shamelessness with which they try so many different looks, how convincingly they pull most of it off, how excruciatingly sincere they are when so many other bands would coat their ambition with irony...band of the decade
― k3vin k., Sunday, 24 May 2020 12:49 (four years ago) link
brad you are always right you don’t have to rub it in
― k3vin k., Sunday, 24 May 2020 12:50 (four years ago) link
At Target yesterday I bought this thing on CD b/c why not
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 24 May 2020 12:53 (four years ago) link
*jumps threads and listens to "having no head" once* when are the 1975 going to collab w/ underworld and also the necks
― lowercase (eric), Sunday, 24 May 2020 13:09 (four years ago) link
cldn't tell how much i think the album flows or not b/c felt like i was in a dream state the whole time
― lowercase (eric), Sunday, 24 May 2020 13:10 (four years ago) link
The way the drums run up against the guitar ripples in "Me & You Together Song" reminds me of Third Eye Blind, actually.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 24 May 2020 13:14 (four years ago) link
yeah there is a lot of sleazy 90s tics on this record that they do SO well, I thought of 3eb too
― k3vin k., Sunday, 24 May 2020 13:26 (four years ago) link
xxxp i hope theres breakbeats on the next album
― ufo, Sunday, 24 May 2020 13:35 (four years ago) link
I think there's some very specific phrasings in People that are very much Andrew Falkous from McClusky/FotLanyway enjoying the album for the most part, will withhold any minor critiques in deference to the Grateful Dead/Jehovah's Witness/Pink Floyd Rules tenor of the thread
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 24 May 2020 15:43 (four years ago) link
Is it on two discs or is it trimmed in some way?
― k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Sunday, 24 May 2020 15:49 (four years ago) link
one disc
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 24 May 2020 15:49 (four years ago) link
given the insane tech advances since the 90s you'd think they'd have found a way to add 30 seconds to a maximum CD runtime
― imago, Sunday, 24 May 2020 16:02 (four years ago) link
apparently they did!
― k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Sunday, 24 May 2020 16:03 (four years ago) link
I know this is too early, but a possible top.
the birthday partyme & you together songif you're too shy (let me know)bagsy not in netwhat should I sayroadkillthen because she goesshiny collarboneyeah I knowjesus christ 2005 god bless americafrail state of mindI think there's something you should knowguyshaving no headtonight (I wish I was your boy)nothing revealed / everything deniedplaying on my minddon't worrythe end (music for cars)streamingpeoplethe 1975
I already regret this.
― Nourry, Sunday, 24 May 2020 16:44 (four years ago) link
I love this album
― Tim F, Monday, 25 May 2020 11:00 (four years ago) link
so great to have you on board tim ;)
― imago, Monday, 25 May 2020 11:14 (four years ago) link
It’s a surprise to all of us
― Tim F, Monday, 25 May 2020 11:18 (four years ago) link
do you wanna leave atthe same time
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Monday, 25 May 2020 12:46 (four years ago) link
― Tim F, Monday, May 25, 2020 7:00 AM (two hours ago)
youuuuuuuI've been waiting for youuuuuuuu
― k3vin k., Monday, 25 May 2020 13:01 (four years ago) link
"Then Because She Goes" is a perfect example of the kind of song that should be held back until it's done.
Lovely ideas there, but it sounds like half a song that needs more time in the oven. Keep working on it and let it be a standout on LP5 or LP6 rather than a blip on this one.
IMO, of course.
― alpine static, Monday, 25 May 2020 17:47 (four years ago) link
the ephemerality/liminality is really evocative to me and honestly i don't want to hear a longer version at all
"what should i say" is the one i agree might be "lacking something" but *jehovah's witness vox* maybe that'll end up feeling the-most-suitable
― lowercase (eric), Monday, 25 May 2020 18:27 (four years ago) link
yeah its brevity is a feature not a bug. lots of other tracks feel considerably less developed
― k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Monday, 25 May 2020 18:31 (four years ago) link
this album is such a goddamn triumph. i keep trying to take time away from it and then falling back into it.reading incensed Metacritic user reviews has also been enjoyable.
― ripersnifle, Monday, 25 May 2020 18:38 (four years ago) link
ok what is "roadkill" cribbing from melodically, i swear it's like a lyle lovett song or something
the midtempo flounce 1-2 of nothing revealed (which has the same chords as a no rome song) and tonight somehow is what is truly destroying my defenses tho. every topline feels effortless. that rap is borderline inexcusable, and yet ...
― Vapor waif (uptown churl), Monday, 25 May 2020 18:44 (four years ago) link
“nothing revealed” is the one that lays it on a little thick even for me
― k3vin k., Monday, 25 May 2020 19:46 (four years ago) link
idk, it such a crucial part of the record. this is where i don't get the sequencing beefs. the sounds do jump around early in the record but "nothing revealed" and "tonight" being sandwiched in between "i think there's something you should know" and "shiny collarbone" is so effective. it's like you briefly slip into a sunnier dimension before being spit back out into the greyscale claustrophobia (london) that most of this album is riffing on
― J0rdan S., Monday, 25 May 2020 21:05 (four years ago) link
“Me & you together song” sounds like Third Eye Blind/Everclear
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 25 May 2020 21:13 (four years ago) link
indeed
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 25 May 2020 21:16 (four years ago) link
when it came out someone in here (i forget who) compared it to ride + third eye blind, which was the final word on the matter
― J0rdan S., Monday, 25 May 2020 21:19 (four years ago) link
matty is a huge fan of "vapour trail" so it's probably intentional
― J0rdan S., Monday, 25 May 2020 21:20 (four years ago) link
“Me & you together song” strays too much from the formula of sounding like every other Everclear song, to actually sound like Everclear.
― MarkoP, Monday, 25 May 2020 21:32 (four years ago) link
decided the new one is the mid-point of "vapour trail" and "semi-charmed life"
― ufo, Friday, January 17, 2020 3:03 AM (four months ago) bookmarkflaglink
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Monday, 25 May 2020 21:34 (four years ago) link
there was a recent interview where matty said "vapour trail" was their main reference point for it and said the "late 90s american teen movie soundtrack" sound was unintentional but he gets why people are making that comparison
― ufo, Monday, 25 May 2020 21:38 (four years ago) link
it's a perfect song
― k3vin k., Monday, 25 May 2020 21:47 (four years ago) link
nice to hear them get back to the their 3EB roots
― Spottie, Tuesday, 26 May 2020 04:57 (four years ago) link
"Me and You Together Song" is not only super-charming musically but I feel is yet another perfect and typical (in a good sense) example of Matt at his storytelling best: the use of embedded back-and-forth conversation quotes (I didn't realise until I searched the lyrics that the "I'm sorry that I'm kinda queer..." and the "oh it's okay, lots of people think I'm gay..." couplets are not sung from the same perspective), the"i'm lying to myself and you about what's really going on, but I can't help but reveal the truth before this song finishes" structure, the post-ironic "i deliberately puncture the romanticism at every turn but that just makes my romanticism seem stronger" touches ("we went to Winter Wonderland, and it was shit but we were happy").
Matt's ultimate lyrical "character" (basically: I'm ridiculous, and I openly acknowledge that, but that doesn't prevent me from being ridiculous or even ameliorate it much, because self-awareness doesn't matter if you can't change your behaviour) would probably ring pretty hollow if he didn't constantly and quite literally situate the "you" in the song and frequently arm them with better arguments than he gets (e.g. the argument about whose fear of going to the toilet in the presence of others is more ridiculous in "The Birthday Party"). The "easter egg" component of his lyric-writing is pretty much entirely based around where the quote marks go and which lines are attributed to whom, but I'm not sure I can think of a songwriter off-hand who has made that particular brand of transparent-mystery their central modus operandi?
― Tim F, Tuesday, 26 May 2020 05:44 (four years ago) link
Three listens in and I'm still pretty shocked how consistent this 22-track album is. I've never been a big fan of their acoustic songs but "Jesus Christ" and "Playing on My Mind" are both great. Everything is great. This band is great
― Vinnie, Tuesday, 26 May 2020 09:16 (four years ago) link
“we went to winter wonderland and it was shit but we were happy” is increasingly feeling like one of the most romantic lyrics i can remember
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 26 May 2020 20:14 (four years ago) link
lmao winter wonderland is literally the worst thing in london (not been but have gawped at + heard stories)...so maybe it really is that romantic
― imago, Tuesday, 26 May 2020 20:17 (four years ago) link
I'm loving the new album but I got completely waylaid by 'So Far (It's Alright)' today. Such a banger. I probably listened to it 50 times.
― cajunsunday, Tuesday, 26 May 2020 20:39 (four years ago) link
(I didn't realise until I searched the lyrics that the "I'm sorry that I'm kinda queer..." and the "oh it's okay, lots of people think I'm gay..." couplets are not sung from the same perspective),
yeah otm -- I only noticed it this weekend after headphone listening. The tumult of the arrangement mirrors the intensifying attraction.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 May 2020 20:42 (four years ago) link