the 1975

the shoegaze moment of 'then because she goes' is also stunning as rock-outs go

Re: sequencing, I find 80 minute albums are too long to digest as albums, and I don't often listen to them in one sitting. So the sequencing here doesn't really bother me. "The End" is the only song that has stuck out to me for taking the energy immediately back down after "People"

i would like to apologize for any previous negative statements i may have made about “frail state of mind”

― J0rdan S., Saturday, May 23, 2020 7:18 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

same here but for “people”

*polishes “i have always been correct about ‘people’ by the 1975” trophy*

I can't imagine listening to most of this often but it's definitely impressive, they're reaaaally good stylistic mimics. I love pretty much all of the UK garage-y tracks.

'What Should I Say' feels like it was written right after hearing Kanye's 'Fade'.

'Me & You Together Song' is both fascinating & repellent as a pastiche (of what exactly, Oasis and certain '90s corporate alt-pop?), with that over-swung rhythm feel that's really gross.

― change display name (Jordan), Friday, May 22, 2020 3:56 PM (two days ago) bookmarkflaglink

great post, I’ve been thinking about “fascinating and repellent pastiche” since last night and I think it’s a compelling critique of them as a band, and also what makes them both so rousing and so polarizing: the shamelessness with which they try so many different looks, how convincingly they pull most of it off, how excruciatingly sincere they are when so many other bands would coat their ambition with irony...band of the decade

brad you are always right you don’t have to rub it in

At Target yesterday I bought this thing on CD b/c why not

*jumps threads and listens to "having no head" once* when are the 1975 going to collab w/ underworld and also the necks

cldn't tell how much i think the album flows or not b/c felt like i was in a dream state the whole time

The way the drums run up against the guitar ripples in "Me & You Together Song" reminds me of Third Eye Blind, actually.

yeah there is a lot of sleazy 90s tics on this record that they do SO well, I thought of 3eb too

xxxp i hope theres breakbeats on the next album

I think there's some very specific phrasings in People that are very much Andrew Falkous from McClusky/FotL

anyway enjoying the album for the most part, will withhold any minor critiques in deference to the Grateful Dead/Jehovah's Witness/Pink Floyd Rules tenor of the thread

At Target yesterday I bought this thing on CD b/c why not

Is it on two discs or is it trimmed in some way?

one disc

given the insane tech advances since the 90s you'd think they'd have found a way to add 30 seconds to a maximum CD runtime

apparently they did!

I know this is too early, but a possible top.

the birthday party
me & you together song
if you're too shy (let me know)
bagsy not in net
what should I say
roadkill
then because she goes
shiny collarbone
yeah I know
jesus christ 2005 god bless america
frail state of mind
I think there's something you should know
guys
having no head
tonight (I wish I was your boy)
nothing revealed / everything denied
playing on my mind
don't worry
the end (music for cars)
streaming
people
the 1975

I already regret this.

I love this album

so great to have you on board tim ;)

It’s a surprise to all of us

do you wanna leave at
the same time

do you wanna leave at
the same time

I love this album

― Tim F, Monday, May 25, 2020 7:00 AM (two hours ago)

youuuuuuu
I've been waiting for youuuuuuuu

"Then Because She Goes" is a perfect example of the kind of song that should be held back until it's done.

Lovely ideas there, but it sounds like half a song that needs more time in the oven. Keep working on it and let it be a standout on LP5 or LP6 rather than a blip on this one.

IMO, of course.

the ephemerality/liminality is really evocative to me and honestly i don't want to hear a longer version at all

"what should i say" is the one i agree might be "lacking something" but *jehovah's witness vox* maybe that'll end up feeling the-most-suitable

yeah its brevity is a feature not a bug. lots of other tracks feel considerably less developed

this album is such a goddamn triumph. i keep trying to take time away from it and then falling back into it.
reading incensed Metacritic user reviews has also been enjoyable.

ok what is "roadkill" cribbing from melodically, i swear it's like a lyle lovett song or something

the midtempo flounce 1-2 of nothing revealed (which has the same chords as a no rome song) and tonight somehow is what is truly destroying my defenses tho. every topline feels effortless. that rap is borderline inexcusable, and yet ...

“nothing revealed” is the one that lays it on a little thick even for me

idk, it such a crucial part of the record. this is where i don't get the sequencing beefs. the sounds do jump around early in the record but "nothing revealed" and "tonight" being sandwiched in between "i think there's something you should know" and "shiny collarbone" is so effective. it's like you briefly slip into a sunnier dimension before being spit back out into the greyscale claustrophobia (london) that most of this album is riffing on

“Me & you together song” sounds like Third Eye Blind/Everclear

indeed

when it came out someone in here (i forget who) compared it to ride + third eye blind, which was the final word on the matter

matty is a huge fan of "vapour trail" so it's probably intentional

“Me & you together song” strays too much from the formula of sounding like every other Everclear song, to actually sound like Everclear.

decided the new one is the mid-point of "vapour trail" and "semi-charmed life"

― ufo, Friday, January 17, 2020 3:03 AM (four months ago) bookmarkflaglink

there was a recent interview where matty said "vapour trail" was their main reference point for it and said the "late 90s american teen movie soundtrack" sound was unintentional but he gets why people are making that comparison

it's a perfect song

nice to hear them get back to the their 3EB roots

"Me and You Together Song" is not only super-charming musically but I feel is yet another perfect and typical (in a good sense) example of Matt at his storytelling best: the use of embedded back-and-forth conversation quotes (I didn't realise until I searched the lyrics that the "I'm sorry that I'm kinda queer..." and the "oh it's okay, lots of people think I'm gay..." couplets are not sung from the same perspective), the"i'm lying to myself and you about what's really going on, but I can't help but reveal the truth before this song finishes" structure, the post-ironic "i deliberately puncture the romanticism at every turn but that just makes my romanticism seem stronger" touches ("we went to Winter Wonderland, and it was shit but we were happy").

Matt's ultimate lyrical "character" (basically: I'm ridiculous, and I openly acknowledge that, but that doesn't prevent me from being ridiculous or even ameliorate it much, because self-awareness doesn't matter if you can't change your behaviour) would probably ring pretty hollow if he didn't constantly and quite literally situate the "you" in the song and frequently arm them with better arguments than he gets (e.g. the argument about whose fear of going to the toilet in the presence of others is more ridiculous in "The Birthday Party"). The "easter egg" component of his lyric-writing is pretty much entirely based around where the quote marks go and which lines are attributed to whom, but I'm not sure I can think of a songwriter off-hand who has made that particular brand of transparent-mystery their central modus operandi?

Three listens in and I'm still pretty shocked how consistent this 22-track album is. I've never been a big fan of their acoustic songs but "Jesus Christ" and "Playing on My Mind" are both great. Everything is great. This band is great

“we went to winter wonderland and it was shit but we were happy” is increasingly feeling like one of the most romantic lyrics i can remember

lmao winter wonderland is literally the worst thing in london (not been but have gawped at + heard stories)...so maybe it really is that romantic

I'm loving the new album but I got completely waylaid by 'So Far (It's Alright)' today. Such a banger. I probably listened to it 50 times.

(I didn't realise until I searched the lyrics that the "I'm sorry that I'm kinda queer..." and the "oh it's okay, lots of people think I'm gay..." couplets are not sung from the same perspective),

yeah otm -- I only noticed it this weekend after headphone listening. The tumult of the arrangement mirrors the intensifying attraction.

Winter Wonderland is crap, I can confirm. I’ve had the misfortune of going twice. Both times it pissed it down.

Haven't been on ilm in a while so sorry if this has been commented on elsewhere, but this album's sonics remind me so much of Trashcan Sinatras's wonderful 2004 album Weightlifting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZI1SSJAy1XI

i know i've said it before but i LOVE this album

The 1975 released a good album imo

two good albums!

(not four)

(it's okay if you think it's four)