iliwys > noacf > abiior > s/t
― ufo, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 00:14 (four years ago) link
oh put "the EPs" above s/t
― ufo, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 00:18 (four years ago) link
*listens*
*o christ don't start rapping*
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 00:49 (four years ago) link
I never listen to the first EP, but if Sex through IV was considered an album it would probably be my favourite just because probably no music in the past decade has had such a massive impact on me as those EPs did in 2013.
Then I tend to think ILIWYS and NOACF are probably tied for top position and the debut is marginally ahead of ABIIOR.
― Tim F, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 04:22 (four years ago) link
It's also definitely the case that some of the stuff on Notes recalls a lot of the more amorphous but still vocal-based material from those EPs ("Anobrain", "Haunt // Bed", "Head. Cars. Bending", "Me", "Falling For You") more than pretty much anything they have done in the interim. "I Think There's Something You Should Know" "What Should I Say", "Bagsy Not In Net"... To be reductionist, the re-emergence of early Junior Boys as one of the strongest implied reference points. Also the way that Matt's voice is buried or at least sits so far back in the mix in so many of these songs (on "Bagsy Not In Net": I'm also strongly reminded of Basement Jaxx's "If I Ever Recover").
It reminds me that one of the first critical frames I came up with for the band when I was first listening to the EPs was that their influences were almost exclusively 90s and that they were one of the first popular syncretist bands not really drawing on the 1980s as a stylistic signifier - which of course became a laughable proposition in light of the sound of the first and then second actual albums. But "If You're Too Shy" aside, this album has barely any moments that strongly code as referencing the eighties.
― Tim F, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 04:39 (four years ago) link
yeah Notes is the most inward-sounding they've been since the EPs. i'm really glad they've sorta come full circle and returned to that sort of vibe more, especially after ABIIOR was so big-sounding. there was a recent interview where Matty says he doesn't really expect they'll do any more of their 80s pop tracks like "If You're Too Shy" anytime soon, which i'd be fine with since they've given us plenty of fantastic ones and i'm excited for them to mine newer territory.
i wouldn't really say the EPs weren't really drawing on the 80s though, the sophisti- synth ballads like "Me" and "fallingforyou" are pretty 80s. it's still funny that they'd never heard The Blue Nile when they made those though.
― ufo, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 04:53 (four years ago) link
Haha yeah that's the part that made me say "almost" exclusively - though even with "Me" and "fallingforyou" it was a bit like they were drawing (consciously or otherwise) on an art-pop continuum (all the Avalon / David Sylvian / The Blue Nile vibes) that ran pretty unbroken through the 80s and 90s and beyond rather than on a sound we specifically associate with the 80s - that John Hughes / Cars sound that emerged strongly on the album.
― Tim F, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 05:53 (four years ago) link
So, a couple of listens in, and I can only conclude this is the best 1975 album. It's better than ILIWYS, which I really rate highly. I'm not sure I get the sequencing remarks: they went all out, with a range of styles even broader than before. It's intended to be all over the place, to sometimes have 'opposing' songs back to back. I'm a fan.
much as they seemingly need at least 17 tracks to really make it work, am v excited for their promised 6/7-track spirit of eden/hats effort
― imago, Wednesday, May 27, 2020 1:47 AM (eight hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
Don't jinx it man!
― Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 07:55 (four years ago) link
I think the sequencing issue is really only an issue for the first 5 tracks of Greta - punk - instrumental - wispy garage-ballad - instrumental. After that it seems no more nor less schizoid in sequencing than the previous two albums to me.
― Tim F, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 09:11 (four years ago) link
Can we also be really real about how amazing the production quality on "shiny collarbone" and "having no head" is?
― Tim F, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 09:32 (four years ago) link
"What Should I Say" with that descending piano motif as well.
Some of this album is kinda like "what if I felt a certain way about jamie xx???"
― Tim F, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 09:34 (four years ago) link
― Tim F, Wednesday, May 27, 2020 11:11 AM (twenty-three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
I agree. I think it's a brave and bold choice to have Greta on their signature first track, but I'll be honest and think I'll probably start the album w/ People more often than not.
Haha otm
― Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 09:37 (four years ago) link
the sequencing doesn't bug me as much now that i'm used to it but the initial stretch up until "jesus christ 2005" is still awkward, especially that very slow opening section tim mentioned. "shiny collarbone" into "if you're too shy" also doesn't work very well at all.
i agree their production gets better and better with every record. it's wild to compare some of the more electronic tracks on the EPs to this record because of how far they've come
― ufo, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 09:47 (four years ago) link
i like that the first few songs act as an uneasy progression into reflexive interiorization
the intro to "if you're too shy" coming out of nothing adjacent does really jar, yeah, even tho the sense of sublimated drift when the band comes in makes it ultimately worth that section
― lowercase (eric), Wednesday, 27 May 2020 09:56 (four years ago) link
i keep marveling at the vocal production throughout in particular
― lowercase (eric), Wednesday, 27 May 2020 09:58 (four years ago) link
I'VE BEEN (wearing nothing every time I) CALL YOU (and I'm starting to feel weird about it)
― Tim F, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 10:03 (four years ago) link
4 > 2 > 1 > 3
v close btwn 4 and 2 but NOACF has more tracks yet fewer that I'd class as "not life-changingly amazing" ('don't worry' vs 'love me', 'loving someone', 'she lays down')
actually mad that they've outdone one of my absolute favourite albums ever jeez
also I fully enjoy the sequencing of the opening tracks - so dramatic and cinematic!
― uberweiss, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 12:06 (four years ago) link
yeah I am completely down with how this album gets going, it’s as the end approaches that I feel the dissonance
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 27 May 2020 12:08 (four years ago) link
yeah I meant more that it's only the opening stretch that feels unusual for them - their previous albums all have a clutch of big singles in at least relatively short succession after the opening eponymous track.
― Tim F, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 12:13 (four years ago) link
I love the greta song, just a random observation
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Wednesday, 27 May 2020 12:49 (four years ago) link
I prob said this before but it makes me think of Dune like it’s a diary entry from the princess irulan
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Wednesday, 27 May 2020 12:50 (four years ago) link
this album is really, really addictive. not sure if i like it as much as the second album but man what a fucking band.
― Bee OK, Thursday, 28 May 2020 00:00 (four years ago) link
one thing I hate about this band is that their songs are so hard to stack up against one another. is “yeah I know” the best song they’ve ever written? or is it “me and you together song”? whomst can say
― k3vin k., Thursday, 28 May 2020 01:41 (four years ago) link
what a preposterous fucking album, man. you go and get stoned on your day off, forget some of the tracks at the end until they pop up and you're all "ok, you're gonna go and hit me with a 'tonight' AFTER you've ALREADY given me "roadkill" and "the birthday party"??? and then "if you're too shy" is still to come. embarrassment of riches
― k3vin k., Thursday, 28 May 2020 02:10 (four years ago) link
look who's cancelled now!!!!!!!
― imago, Thursday, 28 May 2020 14:35 (four years ago) link
real talk: everyone get off fucking twitter
actually fuck it, let's just keep talking about the album lol. it's really good!
― imago, Thursday, 28 May 2020 14:36 (four years ago) link
lmao that is extreme nonsense
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 28 May 2020 14:42 (four years ago) link
we should cancel all writers who have linked to their past work during the current situation
what actually "happened"
― k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Thursday, 28 May 2020 14:45 (four years ago) link
he said "#blacklivesmatter" and linked the video for "love it if we made it" and apparently got such blowback he deleted his twitter
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 28 May 2020 14:46 (four years ago) link
lmao
― k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Thursday, 28 May 2020 14:47 (four years ago) link
doofus move, total overreaction, sounds about right.
― k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Thursday, 28 May 2020 14:48 (four years ago) link
hahahahaha
― k3vin k., Thursday, 28 May 2020 21:22 (four years ago) link
matty = perpetual 22 year old who has somehow forgotten that he’s now in his 30’s lol
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 29 May 2020 05:59 (four years ago) link
i have burning desire to hear "tonight (i wish i was your boy)" chopped & screwed with some houston legend like say big moe (rip) riffing over it
― tpp, Friday, 29 May 2020 12:55 (four years ago) link
Having No Head bangs like The Social Network soundtrack and you know it
― anza808, Friday, 29 May 2020 20:53 (four years ago) link
you could make a killer EP out of just the uk garage tracks
― k3vin k., Saturday, 30 May 2020 00:28 (four years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4iOeCPv96w
the new no rome track, produced by george, is great
― ufo, Saturday, 30 May 2020 01:09 (four years ago) link
why are we not talking more about this amazing record
― k3vin k., Saturday, 30 May 2020 22:09 (four years ago) link
Nappieeeeees
― self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Sunday, 31 May 2020 14:49 (four years ago) link
happyyyyyyy
― J. Sam, Sunday, 31 May 2020 17:19 (four years ago) link
today 'I Think There's Something You Should Know' is the best song ever. channeling some 'Menswear' vibes.
― Nourry, Monday, 1 June 2020 16:28 (four years ago) link
you guys are the best thing that ever happened to me
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 1 June 2020 16:37 (four years ago) link
closest reference point i've come up with yet for the kitchen-sink eclecticism of this album is super furry animals' guerilla
― ufo, Tuesday, 2 June 2020 13:48 (four years ago) link
first three songs in sequence today have me weepy
― Joey Corona (Euler), Tuesday, 2 June 2020 13:53 (four years ago) link
i feel like the exuberant stylistic promiscuity fits pretty tidily into their agonies and ecstasies of late capitalism thematic
― Vapor waif (uptown churl), Tuesday, 2 June 2020 19:06 (four years ago) link
and i seen the girls and they were all like"do you wanna come and get fucked up?"listen i got myself a missus, says there can't be any kissing"no, don't be a fridge, you better wise up, kidit’s all adderall now, it doesn't make you wanna do it"
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 13 June 2020 20:10 (four years ago) link
lyrically “the birthday party” is like the entire cosmos of the 1975 mapped out in a single song
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 13 June 2020 20:11 (four years ago) link
also my replacement copy of the record arrived today and it is an awesome radioactive sickly yellow-green color and i’mlistening to it now and it sure sounds like the best album ever
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 13 June 2020 20:13 (four years ago) link