why don't you poll me I feel like flying to... the UNDERWORLD Poll Results thread -- produced by Smith & Hyde for ILM Artist Poll #102

lol!

should we wrap up today

or

spend TWENTY FOUR HOURS WITH THE

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6. King Of Snake
1551 points, 25 total votes
1999 single from Beaucoup Fish


1997 demo audio
1998 live 17-minute version (mp3 download)
Barking Mix promo by Tomato
Shudder/KOS VHS promo (VPN to UK)

(Votes include 2 for Barking, 1 for Straight (Mate), and four for other versions / three incorporating Shudder. position would be unchanged counting one vote for the Everything Everything live version)

too low

The dave clarke remix is the shit btw

Fatboy Slim remix is surprisingly good too

ILx "first mentions"

I've always been under the impression that, a few slammin' singles aside, Underworld was the epitome of style over substance. However, hearing "King Of Snake" for the first time and going gaga over their live album is forcing me to reevaluate.

Therefore, I turn to my peers. What say you - is Underworld fab or foul? Beauty or booty? Wonderful or worthless?

― DJP, Tuesday, October 17, 2000 11:00 AM

live Glastonbury video 1999

now, on to my anecdote, which is about how the promo vinyl we got for 'King of Snake' was a 12" and I put it on at 33 and it was SUPER FUNKY like WOW until Karl's vox came in and it sounded like he was a dying robot from planet Opium. So I put it on 45 and it turned into house music, which while quite good was not nearly as enjoyable as the 33 version.

― TOMBOT, Sunday, January 19, 2003 4:50 AM

live Big Day Out video 2003

twenty four hours its the k-k-k-ing o' snake

― Thee Macallan 18 Year, Wednesday, July 6, 2011 11:25 PM

audience video 2009

mongoose and...

― DJP, Tuesday, September 11, 2007 7:23 AM

i picked ( at midnight everybody dancing on the street here ) but am immediately regretting not picking ( strong food and strong drink at midnight )

― Will M., Tuesday, September 11, 2007 7:27 AM

snake fighting IS very scary so i voted for that one

― the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Tuesday, September 11, 2007 7:29 AM

STRONG FOOD AND STRONG DRINK

― elmo argonaut, Tuesday, September 11, 2007 7:34 AM

Coachella live promo 2016 (laz0rs pew pew)

SNAKE SNAKE SNAKE SNAKE SNAKE

― elmo argonaut, Tuesday, September 11, 2007 7:35 AM

Explode mystic dove, explode

― Duane Barry, Tuesday, September 11, 2007 9:54 PM

official live single-cam video Bucharest 2009 (not great tbh)

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god damn i was pretty disconnected / unaware of a lot of the rave-ier end of dance when it was actually happening here but nothing makes me want to do strange drugs and get fucked up in a warehouse with flashing lights and lots of other fucked up ppl like underworld.

― deej, Monday, December 15, 2008 10:52 PM

http://www.zshare.net/audio/52776832b72c9d61/

trick daddy - shut up (underworld mix)

― and what, Tuesday, December 16, 2008 3:33 AM

snake!!

oh-h-h-h-h-h-h!!!!

"king of snake" is so bouncy

I still have a homemade 33rpm version on my phone at all times

The little thirty-second intro to “King of Snake” before the synth line comes in (I guess that would be “Shudder”?) is so goddamn freaky and weird and cool.

"Shudder" is such a cool little piece of music

“Cups” would’ve been my #1 if I had voted. I’m sure glad I didn’t though! I would’ve neglected all these really cool obscure Underworld tunes I’ve never heard, like “S-T-A-R” and “Parc”

The King of Snake EP is great, all the remixes flow into each other

Classic tune obviously but the live versions of this are so much more special imo

"Cups" is so brilliant - of all the Underworld tricks of fusing together two disparate tunes, it's perhaps the most audacious, there's a real sense when listening to the tune transform that "if they can do this they can do anything". I've got mad love for the short version on Everything Everything and in particular the way it merges into "Push Upstairs" like pieces of plastic left out in the sun, but the idea that the tune would better without the deep house section is insane to me.

"King of Snake" meanwhile is a banger to end all bangers. That and "Moaner" were the peak moments for me when I saw Underworld live at Vivid last year.

#TECHTALK: Rick and Karl soundchecking with Rick playing King Of Snake off an iDrum app on his phone

snake!!

oh-h-h-h-h-h-h!!!!

― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Monday, 22 June 2020 23:53 (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

The only problem with the live versions of Snake (which I agree are brilliant) is that the strobing on Hyde's "oh-h-h-h-h-h!" on the studio version is urgent and key.

King Of Snake: great.

the song that reviews itself

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5. Jumbo  
1625 points, 24 votes, 3 #1s
1999 single from Beaucoup Fish

official video
Tomato VHS promo

The live album has certainly helped in this assessment, but it has also made me wonder lately why so many folks slag off "Jumbo," which is really a beautiful and (I think) quite emotional song (despite the standard Hyde lyrical meanderings, which I wouldn't have any other way, of course). So many reviews of "Everything Everything" have inexplicably picked on my dear "Jumbo" as the dud track, and I have to wonder if it's because it simply lessens the momentum of the album (albeit briefly) or if I have been hoodwinked into liking a song that might, upon further reflection, just be a cute little toss-off ditty that will eventually fade in comparison to the admitted genius of "Cowgirl" or "...Skyscraper..." Whatever the case, "Jumbo" is what elevated "Beaucoup Fish" from good to great for me, and served more than any other recent track (yes, even more than the overrated "Born Slippy") to reaffirm my belief that Underworld are fab, beauty, and most assuredly wonderful.

― Max Jones, Wednesday, October 18, 2000 11:00 AM

Jo Whiley session video 1998 (lo-res)

...a fair amount of their output is wank...but stuff like "Rez" and "Jumbo" are those moments when dance music just transcends itself...stunning......probably because Karl Hyde cuts out that annoying gibberish

― Michael B., Monday, December 4, 2000 12:00 PM

I thought underworld was just crap cause of the lyrics. but man, after hearing Jumbo, i beleive these guys to be masters of the art thaat is music, if not Gods. So much can be said for a single track to cause such revelation. by the way as cryptic as these lyrics are, why do all songs have references to "the city"? am i the only one that's noticed that.

― Keyur Patel, Saturday, December 23, 2000 12:00 PM

live audio 2008

also, jumbo sounds like it could have came out last week.

― cutty, Wednesday, October 19, 2005 10:43 AM

soundcheck 2009

"Halcyon" is the shit and will get the crowd going on the floor more, but "Jumbo" is definitely more moving, more emotional, and would probably get me going a little more, the way it builds and builds through some subtle additions to the musical texture throughout.

― gear, Wednesday, October 19, 2005 12:01 PM

KCRW session video 2016

"Jumbo" is one of the only Underworld tracks I've heard where the album version has completely pwned every live version I've heard. The "click" is integral to the power of the song and it is a little slice of melancholy awesomeness but I can think of five songs off the top of my head on Beaucoup Fish alone that are better-constructed, more emotionally-involving and just plain better ("Push Upstairs", "Winjer", "Kittens", "Moaner", "Cups"). Also, "Luetin" goes over the same territory in a much more satisfying manner; there isn't another Orbital song that encapsulates that sense of open-eyed wonder in the same way as "Halcyon".

I would love to hear the "Jumbo" remixes, though; I don't know them at all.

― DJP, Wednesday, October 19, 2005 10:18 PM

audience video 2013, Karl band

"jumbo". it really does sound amazing when you listen to it while playing with a tetris keyring!

― haitch, Wednesday, October 19, 2005 11:53 PM

https://i.imgur.com/1LwBF5b.jpg

ambient loop
piano cover

totally "too much time on ilx", or too much time on ilx in 2005, but i can't hear the opening of "jumbo" without thinking of stevem being annoyed of the sound of the dude banging on the boat

― roxymuzak, Friday, October 18, 2013 10:47 AM

My number one aka the best song ever made

Rising in the morning to speak to you
Beneath the feet of the city
Click, you disconnect from me
Click, when you come to take your century

Telephone breath between us
There are no borders between us
Only these wires, dust between the wires and green glass
In the distance, I am your tourist

I'm vaguely irritated that evidently a majority of underworld fans on ILX think "dirty epic" is a better emo-underworld track than "jumbo", as if karl groaning "here comes christ on crutches" wasn't one of the more off-putting moments in their discography.

Ha. It's possible it has more points than "Dirty Epic" on its own. I had it higher. It is the best....well i had two things above it but.... dammit

Also my #1. When the lush pads come in halfway through, I think that is as transcendent as music can get. Like the doors of heaven opening

i forgot about the video for Jumbo. I always think of the visuals from "Everything Everything" for this one... shots from a train of wires overhead, holding up bits of paper with words on them. Glaring sun. I'm glad this more closely resembles music videos these days.

My number 2 behind the actual best song ever made

hard to pick a favorite track with Underworld, but Jumbo is right up there

I had no idea this song was so highly rated!

glad to see appreciation for the monster tracks from Beaucoup Fish

love how Cups evolves from a low-key track to a synth freakout after 9 minutes

as if karl groaning "here comes christ on crutches" wasn't one of the more off-putting moments in their discography.

tim this opinion breaks my heart

this was my no. 3, after "beautiful burnout" and "8 ball." idk if it's weird that i think it's the most romantic song i've ever heard

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heads up to the "combining votes is cheating" partisans:

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if we didn't combine votes for anything, including the next track

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then the next title would be your #1

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4. Juanita: Kiteless: To Dream of Love
1706 points, 24 votes, 4 #1s
1996 album opener from Second Toughest In The Infants

audio
live audio 1996
live video 2018 (link at 0:08)

TOO LOW

awesome

Sure, I know this observation is ridiculously dated, but when Karl Hyde strikes those two shimmering chords on his guitar five minutes deep into "Juanita" [Everything, Everything] over what sounds like a celestial choir of frantic, chirping calculators, it's positively euphoric in a manner normally reserved for Spielbergian encounters with extraterrestrials. Put simply, it rocks furiously and makes me oh so happy.

― Alex in NYC, Friday, August 1, 2003 4:46 PM

partly i think the danceability of second toughest is subtle yet powerful- the repetitive figures of the "juanita/kiteless" opening block at first just make you bounce around a little bit, jiggle a leg in your seat or whatever, but by later you're humming along with the vocoder and it picks up speed. this is opposed to the danceability of, say, "push upstairs," which just starts bashing down the door and forcing you to dance with the detroit-ness of it all and builds even more on that.

― .rob, Tuesday, June 29, 2004 3:30 PM

zz top used "juanita" as their intro music the other night, i shit u not

― roxymuzak, Monday, September 21, 2009 9:09 PM

Also, I love how 'Juanita/Kiteless/To Dream of Love' is over quarter of an hour long but still feels like it's over in the blink of an eye to me. No matter how many times I've heard it, it always feels far more shorter than it actually is.

― Turrican, Wednesday, November 11, 2015 9:18 AM

Oh wow I thought those would be 1 and 2

was wondering if you were referring to Rez/Cowgirl, haven't been following closely enough to know it they showed up

Love this one. Can't stand King of Snake, personally. I know.

always thought of Shudder/King of Snake as one track

tbf there are approx 973 versions of Snake without Shudder

I do like the way Underworld merges tracks to make a bigger picture