Rolling weird music 2020

no wave band w new album out that might be of interest to ppl who read this thread: special interest

O hell yes Special Interest's Spriraling was amazing, great to know about new 'un.
Speaking of ballet music as breakthrough/honing of craft, have yall heard this?
https://jlin.bandcamp.com/album/autobiography-music-from-wayne-mcgregors-autobiography

the Special Interest is fairly compelling but it is another album that seems to regard melody as some sort of bourgeois luxury

that is probably more cutting than it needs to be as I am rather enjoying the sonics!

You mean the Sonics band or the sonics of the (latest?) Special Interest album?

the latter!

new emamouse is outstanding

https://emamouse.bandcamp.com/album/--3

^this rules

special interest record is r good for summer humid walks

Would Memnon Sa fit in here? I mean one could put the new record in a lot of different categories, but I think it's tunefully weird and can't stop listening to it?

Newish WaqWaq Kingdom is getting a lot of play at my house these days, this is the single and by far the most "normal" track on the record. Maybe better for deconstructed club, but I think it's a bit too tuneful.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uho_3qWJIBw

https://open.spotify.com/track/60fbYOyOnb3FiYdByuF2mT?si=fGn6NqmqTVuxQ0N7NfhtAQ

Sewerslvt
Breakbeats and moody synths

I like this...I don't use Spotify, but is it the "Draining Love Story" record? If so, some of this is Bobbins worthy!

oh yes i have opinions on this record :)

Do tell!

Yes, draining love story
https://geometriclullaby.bandcamp.com/album/draining-love-story

wow @ lexapro delirium

Do tell!

― healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table)

ok, here's what i wrote

https://weirdthingsonbetamax.blogspot.com/2020/05/reviews-of-couple-of-2020-albums.html

Thanks Kate! I like how you're able to see the value of the expression while ruing the circumstances that brought it to the fore.

I dig this a lot, downloaded and listened to late last night. Reminds me of a strange mish-mash of the E-Saggila hard techno, near-gabber sound and the Nathan Micay record's queer anime preoccupations.

great review thanks kate

Stan Brakhage, "The Test of Time." A series of twenty half-hour radio shows featuring incredible music and insightful commentary, hosted by Brakhage in 1982 for University of Colorado KAIR radio [MP3]:http://www.ubu.com/sound/brakhage.html

gahhhhhh not sure whether to thank you there or not

pro: amazing
con: timesuck of the highest order

was out when he started playing ruggles, lol

that said program 15 where he just does a whole bunch of bird songs sounds worthwhile

and he does eventually get around to the dead in the last program :)

Stan Brakhage, "The Test of Time." A series of twenty half-hour radio shows featuring incredible music and insightful commentary, hosted by Brakhage in 1982 for University of Colorado KAIR radio [MP3]:http://www.ubu.com/sound/brakhage.html

― dow, Wednesday, August 19, 2020 6:43 PM (ten minutes ago)

awesome, thank you! i'm listening to episode 3, while using this transcript as a reference: https://www.fredcamper.com/Brakhage/TestofTime.html

and he does eventually get around to the dead in the last program :)

definitely haven't gotten that far and probably never will, but it's "That's It For the Other One"! going back to the roots

some of you might like this album rolling punk 2020

Am I the only person who hasn't been converted to the Dead?

nah, most people haven't; i got plenty of friends who shake their heads when i start talking dead

Thanks Dow, that is an awesome find.

i'm not into the dead fwiw

xpost You're welcome; I should check ubuweb more often, mostly wait 'til I catch one of their tweets. Don't know if the Harry Bertoia thread is weird enough for this one, but here's a similar approach to HB's, nice palate cleanser anyway, though my dog doesn't agree:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmrER-1_G9o If it doesn't show, search YouTube for Teaching a Stone to Sing.

Reading the text of Brakhage’s show it reminds me of the conversational tone of Nicholson Baker’s writing, also something about the simply joy of discovering and sharing things of interest

LOVE the singing stones

found a short doc on Sciola pretty quickly, queuing it up now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkq33RNZpL4

Cool, thx, I came across his shortie whille looking for the film that Sonny Sharrock said Sun Ra showed him, about teaching statues to sing and/or speak. No luck w that yet.
also, do you know these threads?
Harry Bertoia

BERTOIA c/d
Good pix and discussion of some of the albums and other artifacts. What I really like is seeing his creations perform while I'm listening, usually some examples on youtube. He also designed and maybe constructed other things, like furniture and jewelry, prob. non-singing, but wouldn't put it past him.

whoa sewerslvt! I sent that to tim and brad earlier this year lol not sure they liked it but apparently i thought it was interesting enough to send ... going to revisit it

It’s great

Good to know I'm not the only one still skeptical of the Dead.

Respect their fans' contributions to bootleg culture quite a lot, though I truly just don't "get" the music itself. And I really love wanky improv stuff— I have a lot of No-Neck Blues Band records, ffs. I think I just fall more on the electronics, noise and free jazz side of improv, tbh.

admittedly I am only a recent convert to being a stoner but (at least so far) stoned or sober I would rather listen to actual drone music or actual rock music than some mutant amalgam of the two

Same!

Velvet Underground---?

lord I've tried

I don't think for me it has anything to do w/ the specific genre of improv....I took am into NNCK, Jackie O Motherfucker et al...even willfully slipshod "bad" playing e.g. Maher Shalal Hash Baz

my brain just cannot square the way these guys play together. With most improv, jazz or not—even super minimalist stuff like AMM—I'm conscious of an invisible baseline of togetherness somewhere. Like a subtext of tightness, something the band is deviating from. I never have any sense of that with the Dead.

I have wondered over the years if I would feel the same way if they never made an attempt at rock music...like they seem so incapable of swinging when they try to, and I am subconsciously biased/aware of that when they listening to the exploratory stuff.

when they listening

i wonder how much of it is expectations? ... like, as you say, it's not about "improv" -- it sounds like you have certain expectations (or at least aesthetic preferences) of rock music and acceptable adjacent sounds ... whereas the other stuff is subject to different expectations/aesthetics

sorry for butting in

Lol we have a thread for this... it’s probably still on sna ffs

I mean I would like to think at this point in life it’s not about expectations...I generally try to re-approach art that my friends and peers like that doesn’t click for me generously and from a bunch of different angles. I’ve had the experience of a band not matching my expectations and then recalibrating and returning and being totally win over.

I mean I also grew up with the Dead in the air, I had the early records in HS and went to a state school in NE where they are/were ubiquitous, took the requisite acid trip at a stadium show etc. And I like their whole ethos—am attracted to the idea of that subculture.

I just can’t find a way in.

xp I had been reading but steering clear of posting in the Dead thread respectfully, it seems like it’s rolling along w/ real heads and I like that

though maybr this is better for "Bands you keep trying to like but can't get into"

idk i just approach things from the "it's okay if i don't like music i'm supposed to like" perspective and move on ... maybe it's worth analyzing why i don't, maybe that's what's going on with y'all? I generally only do this when it's the music of someone i know personally, and what I think of their music might actually affect them? ... there are definitely a whole cadre of ppl that are into 21st century alt-jam bands that have been recently mentioned here, that won't go near the Dead -- personally, I don't see that big of a difference between them ... but I'm of the "not really a fan of either type" though I find it pleasant enough

I mean the Dead are one of those bands I'm totally "it's okay I don't like this." But I guess generally speaking it has something to do w/ appetite...I'm sometimes reluctant to give up entirely on something other ppl whose opinions I respect are into, in the hopes of expanding/developing my own sensibilities

Am I the only person who hasn't been converted to the Dead?

No. Every time I've tried listening to the Dead, I get maybe a minute or two into it until I realize: why am I listening to this when I can listen to Bardo Pond instead?